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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Geoff Krall Combs The Internet For Lesson Plans So You Don&#8217;t Have To</title>
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		<dc:creator>dy/dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Geoff Krall Combs The Internet For Lesson Plans So You Don&#8217;t Have To</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Claydon, Geoff Krall&#039;s curriculum maps are a great place to start. He&#039;s taken the Common Core&#039;s scope and sequence documents and combed the Internet for items that fit. He&#039;s included a few of my own items, some items from [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Assessments: Synthesis Skills &#124; Mathy McMatherson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Assessments: Synthesis Skills &#124; Mathy McMatherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2013 00:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Influence: A while ago, the Common Core Tools blog released one possible way to sequence the Common Core standards into high school units. Within each high-school course, there are places for &#8216;Modeling Unis&#8217; and [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Jim Kelly</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-2536</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 02:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your analogy might have more meaning if instead of examining urns you examined content and its distribution relative to standards when it comes to structure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your analogy might have more meaning if instead of examining urns you examined content and its distribution relative to standards when it comes to structure.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Attend to the verbs in the Mathematical Practices by nancymclaughlin</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2013/02/09/attend-to-the-verbs-in-the-mathematical-practices/#comment-2533</link>
		<dc:creator>nancymclaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Draft progressions on high school Algebra and Functions by Jim</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/12/04/draft-progressions-on-high-school-algebra-and-functions/#comment-2528</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Attend to the verbs in the Mathematical Practices by jzimba</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2013/02/09/attend-to-the-verbs-in-the-mathematical-practices/#comment-2527</link>
		<dc:creator>jzimba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Dev!  Appreciated these additional thoughts. You make a great observation that &quot;explain&quot; in 3.NF.3 is a point of connection between content and practices. And as you say, it helps to realize that explaining is more than just &quot;doing a verb&quot; -  explaining also *results in an explanation,* and an explanation is a thing that can be turned over and examined.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dev!  Appreciated these additional thoughts. You make a great observation that &#8220;explain&#8221; in 3.NF.3 is a point of connection between content and practices. And as you say, it helps to realize that explaining is more than just &#8220;doing a verb&#8221; &#8211;  explaining also *results in an explanation,* and an explanation is a thing that can be turned over and examined.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Attend to the verbs in the Mathematical Practices by devpsinha</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2013/02/09/attend-to-the-verbs-in-the-mathematical-practices/#comment-2526</link>
		<dc:creator>devpsinha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Jason.  I did think of the ubiquity of the verb &quot;understand&quot; in the content standards when I wrote this.  (I was also reminded of the importance of conveying how that verb &quot;understand&quot; is intended).  Moreover, I paused when writing because in my view mathematics is both a subject area and a way of thinking, and I think the noun/verb dichotomy ultimately divorces things too much.  But to begin a conversation, I&#039;m comfortable with talking about these aspects separately,  as predominantly (though not exclusively, as you point out) embedded in the standards as content vs. practice.

In making these distinctions, I think it isn&#039;t so much the parts of speech used in the standards we should attend to as it is the underlying mathematics and student actions.  In your 3.NF.3 example, there is a noun there implicitly, namely a preferred proof that fractions are equivalent. (Thinking of proofs as nouns is part of the trouble with this dichotomy; the &quot;verby&quot; language of the standard is perfectly natural.)  The verb &quot;explain&quot;, by the way, is essentially being borrowed from MP3.  

[By the way, I happen to be going over this material at the moment with some pre-service teachers, and they came to agree that the choice of argument based on reasoning about sizes (in particular sizes on the number line) in the CCSS is preferable to more formal or algorithmic approaches.  Just thought that you&#039;d appreciate the vote of confidence in the choices you made from a room full of undergrads ; )  ]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jason.  I did think of the ubiquity of the verb &#8220;understand&#8221; in the content standards when I wrote this.  (I was also reminded of the importance of conveying how that verb &#8220;understand&#8221; is intended).  Moreover, I paused when writing because in my view mathematics is both a subject area and a way of thinking, and I think the noun/verb dichotomy ultimately divorces things too much.  But to begin a conversation, I&#8217;m comfortable with talking about these aspects separately,  as predominantly (though not exclusively, as you point out) embedded in the standards as content vs. practice.</p>
<p>In making these distinctions, I think it isn&#8217;t so much the parts of speech used in the standards we should attend to as it is the underlying mathematics and student actions.  In your 3.NF.3 example, there is a noun there implicitly, namely a preferred proof that fractions are equivalent. (Thinking of proofs as nouns is part of the trouble with this dichotomy; the &#8220;verby&#8221; language of the standard is perfectly natural.)  The verb &#8220;explain&#8221;, by the way, is essentially being borrowed from MP3.  </p>
<p>[By the way, I happen to be going over this material at the moment with some pre-service teachers, and they came to agree that the choice of argument based on reasoning about sizes (in particular sizes on the number line) in the CCSS is preferable to more formal or algorithmic approaches.  Just thought that you'd appreciate the vote of confidence in the choices you made from a room full of undergrads ; )  ]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Attend to the verbs in the Mathematical Practices by The Content Standards are the Nouns; the Practice Standards are the Verbs &#124; WatsonMath.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Content Standards are the Nouns; the Practice Standards are the Verbs &#124; WatsonMath.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 02:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Attend to the verbs in the Mathematical Practices by jzimba</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2013/02/09/attend-to-the-verbs-in-the-mathematical-practices/#comment-2524</link>
		<dc:creator>jzimba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 01:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree it is crucial to attend to the verbs in the practice standards!

Sometimes it is also important to attend to their other parts of speech. For example, in MP.5, &quot;Use appropriate tools strategically,&quot; the adjective &quot;appropriate&quot; and the adverb &quot;strategically&quot; are both crucial.  

I do think it is true that the nouns in the practice standards differ in kind from the nouns in the content standards. The nouns in the practice standards are these: problems, arguments, reasoning, mathematics, tools, precision, structure, regularity, and repeated reasoning. These are not what we think of as content areas or &quot;topics.&quot; Whereas, the nouns in the content standards generally *are* what we think of as &quot;topics.&quot; 

However, although it is true that &quot;content standards provide nouns,&quot; it is important to observe that the content standards also provide verbs (such as &quot;understand&quot;) and adverbs (such as &quot;fluently&quot;) that are essential to the expectation in question. 

It may be true that people &quot;usually pay attention to the nouns in content standards,&quot; but I wouldn&#039;t want to give a pass to this predilection. Consider 3.NF.3 for example, which says, &quot;Explain equivalence of fractions, and compare fractions by reasoning about their size.&quot; Virtually nothing about this expectation is captured by the noun &quot;fractions,&quot; or by the noun phrase &quot;fraction equivalence.&quot; The verb &quot;explain&quot; is clearly essential. Likewise essential is the adverbial phrase &quot;by reasoning about their size&quot; - without this, one might imagine that students were expected only to use algorithms based on numerators and/or denominators.

In case helpful or interesting, some related examples can be found here:  http://www.achievethecore.org/downloads/New%20Twists%20on%20an%20Old%20Standard.docx.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree it is crucial to attend to the verbs in the practice standards!</p>
<p>Sometimes it is also important to attend to their other parts of speech. For example, in MP.5, &#8220;Use appropriate tools strategically,&#8221; the adjective &#8220;appropriate&#8221; and the adverb &#8220;strategically&#8221; are both crucial.  </p>
<p>I do think it is true that the nouns in the practice standards differ in kind from the nouns in the content standards. The nouns in the practice standards are these: problems, arguments, reasoning, mathematics, tools, precision, structure, regularity, and repeated reasoning. These are not what we think of as content areas or &#8220;topics.&#8221; Whereas, the nouns in the content standards generally *are* what we think of as &#8220;topics.&#8221; </p>
<p>However, although it is true that &#8220;content standards provide nouns,&#8221; it is important to observe that the content standards also provide verbs (such as &#8220;understand&#8221;) and adverbs (such as &#8220;fluently&#8221;) that are essential to the expectation in question. </p>
<p>It may be true that people &#8220;usually pay attention to the nouns in content standards,&#8221; but I wouldn&#8217;t want to give a pass to this predilection. Consider 3.NF.3 for example, which says, &#8220;Explain equivalence of fractions, and compare fractions by reasoning about their size.&#8221; Virtually nothing about this expectation is captured by the noun &#8220;fractions,&#8221; or by the noun phrase &#8220;fraction equivalence.&#8221; The verb &#8220;explain&#8221; is clearly essential. Likewise essential is the adverbial phrase &#8220;by reasoning about their size&#8221; &#8211; without this, one might imagine that students were expected only to use algorithms based on numerators and/or denominators.</p>
<p>In case helpful or interesting, some related examples can be found here:  <a href="http://www.achievethecore.org/downloads/New%20Twists%20on%20an%20Old%20Standard.docx" rel="nofollow">http://www.achievethecore.org/downloads/New%20Twists%20on%20an%20Old%20Standard.docx</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To B or not to B by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2013/01/28/to-b-or-not-to-b/#comment-2523</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 23:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m of two minds on the issue of flouting convention. On the one hand, there was no intention to do so, and curriculum writers are free to use the convention; the standard in no way dictates how the formula is written in a textbook. On the other had, the depth of feeling about this makes me think there is an important point to be made here. Some people do really seem to believe that it is a mathematical error to write $V =bh$, and that is in itself a deeply erroneous view of mathematics. 

But, perhaps we&#039;ve exhausted this discussion. Go forth and $B$ whatever you want to $b$!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m of two minds on the issue of flouting convention. On the one hand, there was no intention to do so, and curriculum writers are free to use the convention; the standard in no way dictates how the formula is written in a textbook. On the other had, the depth of feeling about this makes me think there is an important point to be made here. Some people do really seem to believe that it is a mathematical error to write $V =bh$, and that is in itself a deeply erroneous view of mathematics. </p>
<p>But, perhaps we&#8217;ve exhausted this discussion. Go forth and $B$ whatever you want to $b$!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Ken Mullen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-2521</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 23:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Publishers may be waiting to see if people really use one of the sequences outlined in Appendix A. Those two sequences were created to help show that teaching the standards would be possible, not as a finished sequence. The consortia have some different ideas about the sequences. The standards themselves don&#039;t require a certain sequence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Publishers may be waiting to see if people really use one of the sequences outlined in Appendix A. Those two sequences were created to help show that teaching the standards would be possible, not as a finished sequence. The consortia have some different ideas about the sequences. The standards themselves don&#8217;t require a certain sequence.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Ken Mullen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-2520</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 23:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Publishers may be waiting to see if people really use one of the sequences outlined in Appendix A. Those two sequences were created to help show that teaching the standards would be possible, not as a finished sequence. The consortia have some different ideas about the sequences. The standards themselves don&#039;t require a certain sequence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Publishers may be waiting to see if people really use one of the sequences outlined in Appendix A. Those two sequences were created to help show that teaching the standards would be possible, not as a finished sequence. The consortia have some different ideas about the sequences. The standards themselves don&#8217;t require a certain sequence.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To B or not to B by calvinballing</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2013/01/28/to-b-or-not-to-b/#comment-2519</link>
		<dc:creator>calvinballing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 23:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[... and A stands for Amount of Volume, presumably.  I agree that b vs. B is a convention, and that students should understand what counts as a convention and what doesn&#039;t.  However, is there a good reason to flout convention on this particular issue?  As has been pointed out, teachers are not told what symbols to use based on this formula, so why not tell teachers to use V=Bh in the classroom but write the standard as jzimba suggests:

&quot;The volume A in cubic inches is given by A=Fd, where F is the area of the base in square inches and d is the height in inches.&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and A stands for Amount of Volume, presumably.  I agree that b vs. B is a convention, and that students should understand what counts as a convention and what doesn&#8217;t.  However, is there a good reason to flout convention on this particular issue?  As has been pointed out, teachers are not told what symbols to use based on this formula, so why not tell teachers to use V=Bh in the classroom but write the standard as jzimba suggests:</p>
<p>&#8220;The volume A in cubic inches is given by A=Fd, where F is the area of the base in square inches and d is the height in inches.&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft progressions on high school Algebra and Functions by Matt Friedman</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/12/04/draft-progressions-on-high-school-algebra-and-functions/#comment-2518</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 23:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Nancy,

My name is Matt Friedman and I am an editor in Scholastic&#039;s Classroom Magazines&#039; division. I am always curious to hear what resources teachers find helpful, and I wondered if you gotten to look at the book Bill suggested below. Could you you know if you found the book to be useful or if you found other resources that were out all in planning the course you discussed above? 

Also, what university do you work for? The course you mentioned sounds very useful— I&#039;m interested to learn more about it. Any information you can provide would be appreciated.

Thanks so much.

Best, 
Matt Friedman
mfriedman at scholastic dot com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Nancy,</p>
<p>My name is Matt Friedman and I am an editor in Scholastic&#8217;s Classroom Magazines&#8217; division. I am always curious to hear what resources teachers find helpful, and I wondered if you gotten to look at the book Bill suggested below. Could you you know if you found the book to be useful or if you found other resources that were out all in planning the course you discussed above? </p>
<p>Also, what university do you work for? The course you mentioned sounds very useful— I&#8217;m interested to learn more about it. Any information you can provide would be appreciated.</p>
<p>Thanks so much.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Matt Friedman<br />
mfriedman at scholastic dot com</p>
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		<title>Comment on To B or not to B by jzimba</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2013/01/28/to-b-or-not-to-b/#comment-2517</link>
		<dc:creator>jzimba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 00:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Math works even if there is no gravitational field. Maybe the convention ought to have been &quot;A = Fd,&quot; where F is the area of any face and d is the third dimension of the prism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Math works even if there is no gravitational field. Maybe the convention ought to have been &#8220;A = Fd,&#8221; where F is the area of any face and d is the third dimension of the prism.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To B or not to B by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2013/01/28/to-b-or-not-to-b/#comment-2516</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 00:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Ken, these are useful comments. And I&#039;m certainly not objecting to conventions here, including the one about $b$ versus $B$. But its important to distinguish between mathematical laws and conventions. The distributive property is a law; order of operations is a convention (one, I hasten to add, that I have no intention of abandoning!).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ken, these are useful comments. And I&#8217;m certainly not objecting to conventions here, including the one about $b$ versus $B$. But its important to distinguish between mathematical laws and conventions. The distributive property is a law; order of operations is a convention (one, I hasten to add, that I have no intention of abandoning!).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by callahanpatrick</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-2515</link>
		<dc:creator>callahanpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a draft circulating for the purpose of soliciting comments and suggestions.

High School Mathematics Scope and Sequence (Draft) 2012.  
Made possible by grants from the Pearson Foundation and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a draft circulating for the purpose of soliciting comments and suggestions.</p>
<p>High School Mathematics Scope and Sequence (Draft) 2012.<br />
Made possible by grants from the Pearson Foundation and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To B or not to B by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2013/01/28/to-b-or-not-to-b/#comment-2514</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 14:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree [with nancymclaughlin] that you could interweave the standards on Functions with the standards on Statistics and Probability (which in Grade 8 consists of just one cluster, &quot;Investigate patterns of association in bivariate data&quot;). But I don&#039;t think I would put that before cluster B in Expressions and Equations, &quot;Understand the connections between proportional relationships, lines, and linear equations.&quot; That&#039;s the cluster where students understand the meaning of slope, why a straight line has constant slope and why the graph of a linear equation in two variables is a straight line. This seems to me to underpin all the work with linear functions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree [with nancymclaughlin] that you could interweave the standards on Functions with the standards on Statistics and Probability (which in Grade 8 consists of just one cluster, &#8220;Investigate patterns of association in bivariate data&#8221;). But I don&#8217;t think I would put that before cluster B in Expressions and Equations, &#8220;Understand the connections between proportional relationships, lines, and linear equations.&#8221; That&#8217;s the cluster where students understand the meaning of slope, why a straight line has constant slope and why the graph of a linear equation in two variables is a straight line. This seems to me to underpin all the work with linear functions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Sarah Stevens</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-2513</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 16:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we wanted to use this resource, who should we reference as the source?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we wanted to use this resource, who should we reference as the source?</p>
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		<title>Comment on To B or not to B by Ken Mullen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2013/01/28/to-b-or-not-to-b/#comment-2512</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Units are interesting here, too. V = lwh most often gives cubic units. My wife studied hydrology, where they sometimes use the V = bh approach to get volume of water in acre-feet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Units are interesting here, too. V = lwh most often gives cubic units. My wife studied hydrology, where they sometimes use the V = bh approach to get volume of water in acre-feet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To B or not to B by Ken Mullen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2013/01/28/to-b-or-not-to-b/#comment-2511</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree completely. The pure mathematical meaning is independent of the letters used, and students should be exposed to different ways of doing things so that they can build a bigger picture. They have to see it enough that they can use Repeated Reasoning.

But, there are also other kinds of meaning that we give to mathematical expressions. You might call them conventions. I think conventions can make mathematics easier to understand. If you consistently use B to represent the area of the base, then you can take shortcuts when you are communicating. It can make communication more efficient and also more effective. Of course, the person you&#039;re communicating with needs to know the conventions, and you need to know that they know the conventions. Still, conventions should be broken sometimes. We learn something by breaking a new trail. And we need to make sure students know that they can break new trails, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completely. The pure mathematical meaning is independent of the letters used, and students should be exposed to different ways of doing things so that they can build a bigger picture. They have to see it enough that they can use Repeated Reasoning.</p>
<p>But, there are also other kinds of meaning that we give to mathematical expressions. You might call them conventions. I think conventions can make mathematics easier to understand. If you consistently use B to represent the area of the base, then you can take shortcuts when you are communicating. It can make communication more efficient and also more effective. Of course, the person you&#8217;re communicating with needs to know the conventions, and you need to know that they know the conventions. Still, conventions should be broken sometimes. We learn something by breaking a new trail. And we need to make sure students know that they can break new trails, too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To B or not to B by nancymclaughlin</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2013/01/28/to-b-or-not-to-b/#comment-2509</link>
		<dc:creator>nancymclaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We humbly request some advice for grade 8 content and sequence. We know that CCSS writers do not dictate sequence, but would like to call upon the expertise who designed the Progressions and extracted content accordingly.  PARCC designations of major and supporting are considered when we think that bivariate data goes logically with functions.  Is this on the right track?  Also the major clusters for Expressions and Equations namely connections between proportional relationships and linear equations would go well with solving linear equations.  We would put the bivariate and functions before the proportions and linear equations.  Would you?  Thank you in advance  for your consideration for advise on grade 8.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We humbly request some advice for grade 8 content and sequence. We know that CCSS writers do not dictate sequence, but would like to call upon the expertise who designed the Progressions and extracted content accordingly.  PARCC designations of major and supporting are considered when we think that bivariate data goes logically with functions.  Is this on the right track?  Also the major clusters for Expressions and Equations namely connections between proportional relationships and linear equations would go well with solving linear equations.  We would put the bivariate and functions before the proportions and linear equations.  Would you?  Thank you in advance  for your consideration for advise on grade 8.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To B or not to B by jzimba</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2013/01/28/to-b-or-not-to-b/#comment-2507</link>
		<dc:creator>jzimba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Admittedly, there are conventions in mathematics, and conventions are helpful...just as long as one doesn&#039;t forget that they are conventions. 

Your point that &quot;Naked formulas...mean nothing by themselves without surrounding words&quot; applies strongly to science, and to the learning of it. Each symbol in a formula like &quot;F = ma&quot; has a detailed meaning that must be understood in order to apply the formula correctly. For example, &quot;F&quot; in the formula refers not simply to &quot;force,&quot; but specifically to the net, external force on a system. (Often when I&#039;ve taught the Second Law, I&#039;ve taken the trouble to carry around a lot of subscripts, as in &quot;F_{net, ext} = m_{tot}a_{cm}.&quot;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admittedly, there are conventions in mathematics, and conventions are helpful&#8230;just as long as one doesn&#8217;t forget that they are conventions. </p>
<p>Your point that &#8220;Naked formulas&#8230;mean nothing by themselves without surrounding words&#8221; applies strongly to science, and to the learning of it. Each symbol in a formula like &#8220;F = ma&#8221; has a detailed meaning that must be understood in order to apply the formula correctly. For example, &#8220;F&#8221; in the formula refers not simply to &#8220;force,&#8221; but specifically to the net, external force on a system. (Often when I&#8217;ve taught the Second Law, I&#8217;ve taken the trouble to carry around a lot of subscripts, as in &#8220;F_{net, ext} = m_{tot}a_{cm}.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft progressions on high school Algebra and Functions by NEK CCSSM HS Functions Presentation &#124; WatsonMath.com</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/12/04/draft-progressions-on-high-school-algebra-and-functions/#comment-2506</link>
		<dc:creator>NEK CCSSM HS Functions Presentation &#124; WatsonMath.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 02:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Functions Progression Document [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Draft progressions on high school Algebra and Functions by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/12/04/draft-progressions-on-high-school-algebra-and-functions/#comment-2502</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 17:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, this is not being recommended as standard notation for students, I&#039;ll make that clear in the next draft.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, this is not being recommended as standard notation for students, I&#8217;ll make that clear in the next draft.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft progressions on high school Algebra and Functions by HeatherBrown</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/12/04/draft-progressions-on-high-school-algebra-and-functions/#comment-2499</link>
		<dc:creator>HeatherBrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 16:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On page 10 of the Algebra document, there is an arrow connecting x^2=4 to x=+-2.  Are we considering this standard notation that a student should know and use, or is this considered more short-hand for mathematicians that already know the math?  if we are considering this standard notation, should we start using it in earlier grades - some places we already see elementary teachers doing this, but then some teachers incorrectly drop the arrow to just an equals sign.  
What are your thoughts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On page 10 of the Algebra document, there is an arrow connecting x^2=4 to x=+-2.  Are we considering this standard notation that a student should know and use, or is this considered more short-hand for mathematicians that already know the math?  if we are considering this standard notation, should we start using it in earlier grades &#8211; some places we already see elementary teachers doing this, but then some teachers incorrectly drop the arrow to just an equals sign.<br />
What are your thoughts?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft progressions on high school Algebra and Functions by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/12/04/draft-progressions-on-high-school-algebra-and-functions/#comment-2497</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 05:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heather, thanks for the corrections. Please post any other typos you find. The Modeling progression will be out soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather, thanks for the corrections. Please post any other typos you find. The Modeling progression will be out soon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft progressions on high school Algebra and Functions by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/12/04/draft-progressions-on-high-school-algebra-and-functions/#comment-2496</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 03:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Danielle, sorry to be slow, took a little break there. I&#039;ve fixed this now (I think).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Danielle, sorry to be slow, took a little break there. I&#8217;ve fixed this now (I think).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft progressions on high school Algebra and Functions by HeatherBrown</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/12/04/draft-progressions-on-high-school-algebra-and-functions/#comment-2485</link>
		<dc:creator>HeatherBrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One more thing... page 12  of the Algebra Progressions says &quot;Give Example in Margin&quot;.  Do you have any good ideas for an example?  
(Maybe I should have waited and put everything in one message. There are a couple of other small typos, let me know if you want them before the next draft.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing&#8230; page 12  of the Algebra Progressions says &#8220;Give Example in Margin&#8221;.  Do you have any good ideas for an example?<br />
(Maybe I should have waited and put everything in one message. There are a couple of other small typos, let me know if you want them before the next draft.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft progressions on high school Algebra and Functions by HeatherBrown</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/12/04/draft-progressions-on-high-school-algebra-and-functions/#comment-2484</link>
		<dc:creator>HeatherBrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Page 3 of the Algebra Functions ends with &quot;for...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Page 3 of the Algebra Functions ends with &#8220;for&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft progressions on high school Algebra and Functions by HeatherBrown</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/12/04/draft-progressions-on-high-school-algebra-and-functions/#comment-2483</link>
		<dc:creator>HeatherBrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On page 16 of the Functions Progressions, it references the Modeling Progressions.  Is this available or is this just a teaser for what is to come next?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On page 16 of the Functions Progressions, it references the Modeling Progressions.  Is this available or is this just a teaser for what is to come next?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mathematics Common Core in the Classroom: March 1-3, 2013 Syracuse, New York by Live Podcast Dates &#171; Infinite Tangents</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/12/04/mathematics-common-core-in-the-classroom-march-1-3-2013-syracuse-new-york/#comment-2482</link>
		<dc:creator>Live Podcast Dates &#171; Infinite Tangents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 02:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] March 1 &#8211; 3: Syracuse, NY (IM&amp;E) [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Draft progressions on high school Algebra and Functions by dseabold</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/12/04/draft-progressions-on-high-school-algebra-and-functions/#comment-2481</link>
		<dc:creator>dseabold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill, this progression is not showing up in a search for &#039;progression&#039; for this site. I have a search results link posted on my website and the high school one is not showing up. Can you help me out?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, this progression is not showing up in a search for &#8216;progression&#8217; for this site. I have a search results link posted on my website and the high school one is not showing up. Can you help me out?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft progressions on high school Algebra and Functions by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/12/04/draft-progressions-on-high-school-algebra-and-functions/#comment-2480</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I assume you are talking about elementary grades here? If so, you might want to look at Sybilla Beckmann&#039;s book, since she was involved in the writing of both Curriculum Focal Points and the Common Core, and there is probably some harmony.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume you are talking about elementary grades here? If so, you might want to look at Sybilla Beckmann&#8217;s book, since she was involved in the writing of both Curriculum Focal Points and the Common Core, and there is probably some harmony.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by CCSSM High School Algebra Powerpoint and Handouts for NEKSDC and CVEDC &#124; WatsonMath.com</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-2479</link>
		<dc:creator>CCSSM High School Algebra Powerpoint and Handouts for NEKSDC and CVEDC &#124; WatsonMath.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] access the HS progressions, go to Tools for the Common Core. At the top, click on Tools.  You will see a list.  Click on Progressions.  You will see a list [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] access the HS progressions, go to Tools for the Common Core. At the top, click on Tools.  You will see a list.  Click on Progressions.  You will see a list [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft progressions on high school Algebra and Functions by nancymclaughlin</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/12/04/draft-progressions-on-high-school-algebra-and-functions/#comment-2478</link>
		<dc:creator>nancymclaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We (a college where I work as adjunct) are planning a three credit course for those math folks who would like to become &quot;Math specialists&quot; in school districts.  This would include math coaches, math administrators, math coordinators and all the various names describing these leaders.

   We are looking for a suitable book for the course.  The problem I am having is the currency of these type books.  We would like a CCSS perspective hence a Copyright after 2011.  Any suggestions?

  Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We (a college where I work as adjunct) are planning a three credit course for those math folks who would like to become &#8220;Math specialists&#8221; in school districts.  This would include math coaches, math administrators, math coordinators and all the various names describing these leaders.</p>
<p>   We are looking for a suitable book for the course.  The problem I am having is the currency of these type books.  We would like a CCSS perspective hence a Copyright after 2011.  Any suggestions?</p>
<p>  Thank you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mathematics Common Core in the Classroom: March 1-3, 2013 Syracuse, New York by Ellen Whitesides</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/12/04/mathematics-common-core-in-the-classroom-march-1-3-2013-syracuse-new-york/#comment-2476</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen Whitesides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 22:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry about the problem links!  They are now fixed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the problem links!  They are now fixed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Ellen Whitesides</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/about/#comment-2469</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen Whitesides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Melissa,

All the progressions are on a page of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://ime.math.arizona.edu/progressions/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Institute for Mathematics and Education&lt;/a&gt; (IM&amp;E) website.

Happy Reading!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Melissa,</p>
<p>All the progressions are on a page of the <a href="http://ime.math.arizona.edu/progressions/" rel="nofollow">Institute for Mathematics and Education</a> (IM&#038;E) website.</p>
<p>Happy Reading!</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Melissa Labbe</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/about/#comment-2468</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa Labbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is there a single place where I can find all of the progressions that have been completed for K-12?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a single place where I can find all of the progressions that have been completed for K-12?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Improvements to Illustrative Mathematics by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/11/08/improvements-to-illustrative-mathematics/#comment-2466</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob, thanks for this. We&#039;ll think about how to indicate the alignment in the index view.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, thanks for this. We&#8217;ll think about how to indicate the alignment in the index view.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-2465</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[G&#039;Day! I think most people are writing these 9–11 because the common assessments will have college and career ready tests to be given in Grade 11. This doesn&#039;t make much sense to me, but there it is. I think it would be better to fit the standards into 3.5 years with options for rounding out the final year with + standards and other extensions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G&#8217;Day! I think most people are writing these 9–11 because the common assessments will have college and career ready tests to be given in Grade 11. This doesn&#8217;t make much sense to me, but there it is. I think it would be better to fit the standards into 3.5 years with options for rounding out the final year with + standards and other extensions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Improvements to Illustrative Mathematics by bobcarla</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/11/08/improvements-to-illustrative-mathematics/#comment-2464</link>
		<dc:creator>bobcarla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 01:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,
The index to the illustrations was very useful; however, I am currently creating develop a scope and sequence document for grade 6 and find something missing which would be of great help. When I go to look for an illustration for a particular domain and cluster (for example 6.NS.5) I can use the new index to find the illustrations for the grade and domain I want but have to open every illustration to find the cluster I am looking for.  It would be of enormous help add the cluster to the domain for each illustration. If the cluster were added a helpful but not essential additional step would be to order the illustrations by cluster under each domain.
Robert Springer]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
The index to the illustrations was very useful; however, I am currently creating develop a scope and sequence document for grade 6 and find something missing which would be of great help. When I go to look for an illustration for a particular domain and cluster (for example 6.NS.5) I can use the new index to find the illustrations for the grade and domain I want but have to open every illustration to find the cluster I am looking for.  It would be of enormous help add the cluster to the domain for each illustration. If the cluster were added a helpful but not essential additional step would be to order the illustrations by cluster under each domain.<br />
Robert Springer</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by barbara polo</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-2463</link>
		<dc:creator>barbara polo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 23:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am also a first grade teacher using Everyday Math. We are still using 1, 2, 3, 4 as grades for ALL subject areas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also a first grade teacher using Everyday Math. We are still using 1, 2, 3, 4 as grades for ALL subject areas.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by bobcarla</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-2462</link>
		<dc:creator>bobcarla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 19:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,
The new index to the illustrations provides a very valuable tool. I am helping to write a scope and sequence for grade 6 and can now easily look up illustrative problems which I can include as links in each section of the standard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
The new index to the illustrations provides a very valuable tool. I am helping to write a scope and sequence for grade 6 and can now easily look up illustrative problems which I can include as links in each section of the standard.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Improvements to Illustrative Mathematics by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/11/08/improvements-to-illustrative-mathematics/#comment-2459</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 12:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=1286#comment-2459</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The list of available tags is:

* conceptual understanding
* challenge problem
* fluency
* formative assessment
* math game
* literature based
* machine scorable
* meaningful application
* number lines
* problem solving
* procedural knowledge
* professional development
* transformations
* summative assessment
* video
* MP 1
* MP 2
* MP 3
* MP 4
* MP 5
* MP 6
* MP 7
* MP 8]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The list of available tags is:</p>
<p>* conceptual understanding<br />
* challenge problem<br />
* fluency<br />
* formative assessment<br />
* math game<br />
* literature based<br />
* machine scorable<br />
* meaningful application<br />
* number lines<br />
* problem solving<br />
* procedural knowledge<br />
* professional development<br />
* transformations<br />
* summative assessment<br />
* video<br />
* MP 1<br />
* MP 2<br />
* MP 3<br />
* MP 4<br />
* MP 5<br />
* MP 6<br />
* MP 7<br />
* MP 8</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by amberlyeefox</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-2458</link>
		<dc:creator>amberlyeefox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?page_id=14#comment-2458</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Bill,

I&#039;m an Aussie like you! I&#039;m writing Maths assessments linked to the CCSS for grades 9-12. Can you recommend a scope and sequence that I can use to write my assessments? I have found some for grades 9-11, but none for 12. Can you assist?

Many thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an Aussie like you! I&#8217;m writing Maths assessments linked to the CCSS for grades 9-12. Can you recommend a scope and sequence that I can use to write my assessments? I have found some for grades 9-11, but none for 12. Can you assist?</p>
<p>Many thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by punmaster1965</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-2457</link>
		<dc:creator>punmaster1965</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=476#comment-2457</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I could not agree more with debbieqd! Current textbooks do not address the 8  Mathematical Practices and coming up with lessons that teach them is a difficult task to complete in a short period of time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not agree more with debbieqd! Current textbooks do not address the 8  Mathematical Practices and coming up with lessons that teach them is a difficult task to complete in a short period of time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-2454</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 18:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?page_id=14#comment-2454</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I think most of the assessment work is going into the PARCC and Smarter Balanced assessment consortia, which might be why you are not seeing anything else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most of the assessment work is going into the PARCC and Smarter Balanced assessment consortia, which might be why you are not seeing anything else.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Joyce Tuckwood</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-2453</link>
		<dc:creator>Joyce Tuckwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 19:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?page_id=14#comment-2453</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Are there Math assessments that support Common Core Standards available for 7th grade? I am a gifted teacher working with a 7th grade student who is bored to tears in his reg. ed. math class.  His reg. ed. math teacher and I are looking for assessments to determine if he should be moved up to 8th grade math. Assessments seem to be non-existent. Do you have suggestions for me, please?  Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there Math assessments that support Common Core Standards available for 7th grade? I am a gifted teacher working with a 7th grade student who is bored to tears in his reg. ed. math class.  His reg. ed. math teacher and I are looking for assessments to determine if he should be moved up to 8th grade math. Assessments seem to be non-existent. Do you have suggestions for me, please?  Thank you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-2452</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?page_id=14#comment-2452</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[We are hoping to make these public soon. We are still working on setting up the e-learning platform for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are hoping to make these public soon. We are still working on setting up the e-learning platform for them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Illustrative Mathematics Project by Patricia Smith</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/01/16/the-illustrative-mathematics-project/#comment-2451</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=19#comment-2451</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Melissa did you ever get an answer to you question?  We are trying to do this kind of training this summer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melissa did you ever get an answer to you question?  We are trying to do this kind of training this summer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Bill Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-2448</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 03:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?page_id=14#comment-2448</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Bill,
A colleague shared information about some fraction progressions videos from a project you are involved in. They are part of a course which also includes links to tasks and quizzes. How can I find out additional information about these?  Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
A colleague shared information about some fraction progressions videos from a project you are involved in. They are part of a course which also includes links to tasks and quizzes. How can I find out additional information about these?  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by J. Sia Robinson</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-2447</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Sia Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 01:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=476#comment-2447</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[We are currently revising a High School course in Probability and Statistics aligned to CCSSM. I would appreciate any information on current prob/stat curricula already aligned.

Additionally, we are charged with developing a pre-test for the course. I am using information from the Pathway documents as a rationale for which standards will be included in the pre-test.

In addition to a text on modeling it would be a good thing if publishers paid attention and began meaningful work on the development of a textbook aligned to any of the pathways detailed in Appendix A.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are currently revising a High School course in Probability and Statistics aligned to CCSSM. I would appreciate any information on current prob/stat curricula already aligned.</p>
<p>Additionally, we are charged with developing a pre-test for the course. I am using information from the Pathway documents as a rationale for which standards will be included in the pre-test.</p>
<p>In addition to a text on modeling it would be a good thing if publishers paid attention and began meaningful work on the development of a textbook aligned to any of the pathways detailed in Appendix A.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New blog registration feature by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/08/02/new-blog-registration-feature/#comment-2446</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 05:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=777#comment-2446</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Eric, thanks for this info. I&#039;ve been worrying about the complaints of sporadic errors, but not really knowing what to do about them. It seems that having a login account is a way to cure this problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, thanks for this info. I&#8217;ve been worrying about the complaints of sporadic errors, but not really knowing what to do about them. It seems that having a login account is a way to cure this problem.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Register for workshop before October 1st! by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/09/24/register-for-workshop-before-october-1st/#comment-2445</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=1054#comment-2445</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Yes, we intend to keep offering these across the country. We&#039;ll be updating people about that on this blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we intend to keep offering these across the country. We&#8217;ll be updating people about that on this blog.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New blog registration feature by Eric</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/08/02/new-blog-registration-feature/#comment-2444</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=777#comment-2444</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Nevermind this last post.  I think I&#039;ve figured out the issue.  Once I try and comment and it recognizes my email, then everything works fine.  So I guess I need to login first before trying to comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind this last post.  I think I&#8217;ve figured out the issue.  Once I try and comment and it recognizes my email, then everything works fine.  So I guess I need to login first before trying to comment.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New blog registration feature by Eric</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/08/02/new-blog-registration-feature/#comment-2443</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=777#comment-2443</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Bill, I have been trying to post on the Forums for a couple of weeks now.  Usually when I click the &quot;Submit&quot; button, it gives me an Error message that says &quot;Are you sure you want to do that?&quot;  Then, after submitting a couple of times and getting it to seemingly post, I go back to check any replies on my comments and my initial comments are gone.  Is it just me having problems or is it a system-wide issue?  Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, I have been trying to post on the Forums for a couple of weeks now.  Usually when I click the &#8220;Submit&#8221; button, it gives me an Error message that says &#8220;Are you sure you want to do that?&#8221;  Then, after submitting a couple of times and getting it to seemingly post, I go back to check any replies on my comments and my initial comments are gone.  Is it just me having problems or is it a system-wide issue?  Thank you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Eric</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/about/#comment-2442</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?page_id=2#comment-2442</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Working now.  Just have to keep submitting until it works!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working now.  Just have to keep submitting until it works!</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Eric</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/about/#comment-2441</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?page_id=2#comment-2441</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Just tried to post something on the forum and it gave me the error again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just tried to post something on the forum and it gave me the error again.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Duane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/about/#comment-2440</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 23:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?page_id=2#comment-2440</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Seems to be back to normal now Eric.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to be back to normal now Eric.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Register for workshop before October 1st! by AvaHope</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/09/24/register-for-workshop-before-october-1st/#comment-2439</link>
		<dc:creator>AvaHope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=1054#comment-2439</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Are any other such conferences/workshops planned - after the October dates?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are any other such conferences/workshops planned &#8211; after the October dates?</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Duane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/about/#comment-2438</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 04:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?page_id=2#comment-2438</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm, same thing is happening to me Eric.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, same thing is happening to me Eric.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Eric</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/about/#comment-2437</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?page_id=2#comment-2437</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I am having trouble posting a reply in the Forum.  I put in my name, email address, and then the comment, but when I click submit it keeps giving me an error that says &quot;Error:  Are you sure you want to do that?&quot;  Yes, I am sure!!!!!  Can you help me?  Am I doing anything wrong or is there a glitch with your system right now?  Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am having trouble posting a reply in the Forum.  I put in my name, email address, and then the comment, but when I click submit it keeps giving me an error that says &#8220;Error:  Are you sure you want to do that?&#8221;  Yes, I am sure!!!!!  Can you help me?  Am I doing anything wrong or is there a glitch with your system right now?  Thank you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Register for workshop before October 1st! by Constance Cannon</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/09/24/register-for-workshop-before-october-1st/#comment-2435</link>
		<dc:creator>Constance Cannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 12:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=1054#comment-2435</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Please come to New England and repeat this workshop.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please come to New England and repeat this workshop.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Register for workshop before October 1st! by V</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/09/24/register-for-workshop-before-october-1st/#comment-2434</link>
		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=1054#comment-2434</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[How about a repeat on the east coast, please!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a repeat on the east coast, please!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Implementing the Common Core State Standards in Mathematics Workshop &#8211; October 12 -14, 2012 by Ellen Whitesides</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/09/12/implementing-the-common-core-state-standards-in-mathematics-workshop-october-12-14-2012/#comment-2432</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen Whitesides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=933#comment-2432</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I wish we did have such opportunities available Christine!  Maybe check with your local school or district to see if they might be able to sponsor part of the cost.  Great article!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish we did have such opportunities available Christine!  Maybe check with your local school or district to see if they might be able to sponsor part of the cost.  Great article!</p>
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		<title>Comment on K–8 standards by domain in pdf form by Jen Tom</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/05/06/k%e2%80%938-standards-by-domain-in-pdf-form/#comment-2429</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=155#comment-2429</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Hello Kconese,

I was recommended this website, which may be helpful to you.  Here is the link. http://ccsstoolbox.agilemind.com/pdf/Grade%205%20Dana%20Center%20Scope%20and%20Sequence.pdf

It is through the Dana Center.  I hope this helps and tell me what you think. JT]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Kconese,</p>
<p>I was recommended this website, which may be helpful to you.  Here is the link. <a href="http://ccsstoolbox.agilemind.com/pdf/Grade%205%20Dana%20Center%20Scope%20and%20Sequence.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://ccsstoolbox.agilemind.com/pdf/Grade%205%20Dana%20Center%20Scope%20and%20Sequence.pdf</a></p>
<p>It is through the Dana Center.  I hope this helps and tell me what you think. JT</p>
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		<title>Comment on K–8 standards by domain in pdf form by kconese</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/05/06/k%e2%80%938-standards-by-domain-in-pdf-form/#comment-2428</link>
		<dc:creator>kconese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=155#comment-2428</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I am a fifth grade teacher and am looking for insight on recommendation for the order of which to teach topics. I realize that no topic is in isolation but still need a month pacing guide.  When we first set up our pacing chart for the year we started with NBT place value with whole numbers, multiplying and dividing.  We then were going to progress to fractions and then to decimals.  Having started I am feeling like I should continue the study of place value to include decimals now
 ...thoughts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a fifth grade teacher and am looking for insight on recommendation for the order of which to teach topics. I realize that no topic is in isolation but still need a month pacing guide.  When we first set up our pacing chart for the year we started with NBT place value with whole numbers, multiplying and dividing.  We then were going to progress to fractions and then to decimals.  Having started I am feeling like I should continue the study of place value to include decimals now<br />
 &#8230;thoughts?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Implementing the Common Core State Standards in Mathematics Workshop &#8211; October 12 -14, 2012 by trishe</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/09/12/implementing-the-common-core-state-standards-in-mathematics-workshop-october-12-14-2012/#comment-2427</link>
		<dc:creator>trishe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=933#comment-2427</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Please come to the Southeast,too.  We are eager and really ready for more here in Metro Georgia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please come to the Southeast,too.  We are eager and really ready for more here in Metro Georgia.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Implementing the Common Core State Standards in Mathematics Workshop &#8211; October 12 -14, 2012 by Christine Newell</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/09/12/implementing-the-common-core-state-standards-in-mathematics-workshop-october-12-14-2012/#comment-2426</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Newell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 04:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=933#comment-2426</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I am really looking forward to attending!  Any scholarship opportunities for teachers who are doing their part in supporting CCSS implementation?  Please read my article in Education Week if you get a chance!  

http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2012/09/12/03newell.h32.html?tkn=PMLFC5GNUDFOdOz0n4CeqgjQd4q1Rr6nGZk8&amp;cmp=clp-edweek]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really looking forward to attending!  Any scholarship opportunities for teachers who are doing their part in supporting CCSS implementation?  Please read my article in Education Week if you get a chance!  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2012/09/12/03newell.h32.html?tkn=PMLFC5GNUDFOdOz0n4CeqgjQd4q1Rr6nGZk8&#038;cmp=clp-edweek" rel="nofollow">http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2012/09/12/03newell.h32.html?tkn=PMLFC5GNUDFOdOz0n4CeqgjQd4q1Rr6nGZk8&#038;cmp=clp-edweek</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on K–8 standards by domain in pdf form by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/05/06/k%e2%80%938-standards-by-domain-in-pdf-form/#comment-2425</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for catching that, I&#039;ve uploaded a corrected file.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on K–8 standards by domain in pdf form by Nick Johnson</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/05/06/k%e2%80%938-standards-by-domain-in-pdf-form/#comment-2424</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=155#comment-2424</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Typo?  In the Fractions Standards by Domain document, the third example under 4.NF.3b looks to be 21/8, rather than 2 (and) 1/8]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo?  In the Fractions Standards by Domain document, the third example under 4.NF.3b looks to be 21/8, rather than 2 (and) 1/8</p>
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		<title>Comment on Implementing the Common Core State Standards in Mathematics Workshop &#8211; October 12 -14, 2012 by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/09/12/implementing-the-common-core-state-standards-in-mathematics-workshop-october-12-14-2012/#comment-2423</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=933#comment-2423</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like a great idea to me!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by tara raymond</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-2422</link>
		<dc:creator>tara raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?page_id=14#comment-2422</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Georgia DPI has done a great job of putting together resources for the CCSS. Google Georgia CCSS Math Student Models.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Georgia DPI has done a great job of putting together resources for the CCSS. Google Georgia CCSS Math Student Models.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Implementing the Common Core State Standards in Mathematics Workshop &#8211; October 12 -14, 2012 by Constance Cannon</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/09/12/implementing-the-common-core-state-standards-in-mathematics-workshop-october-12-14-2012/#comment-2421</link>
		<dc:creator>Constance Cannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=933#comment-2421</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Yes, please.  Come to the North East.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, please.  Come to the North East.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Implementing the Common Core State Standards in Mathematics Workshop &#8211; October 12 -14, 2012 by Brian Cohen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/09/12/implementing-the-common-core-state-standards-in-mathematics-workshop-october-12-14-2012/#comment-2420</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=933#comment-2420</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[If you time it well, the deal could easily include a SU basketball or football game... pretty good seats... :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you time it well, the deal could easily include a SU basketball or football game&#8230; pretty good seats&#8230; <img src='http://commoncoretools.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Implementing the Common Core State Standards in Mathematics Workshop &#8211; October 12 -14, 2012 by Brian Cohen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/09/12/implementing-the-common-core-state-standards-in-mathematics-workshop-october-12-14-2012/#comment-2419</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=933#comment-2419</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like an awesome opportunity... I&#039;m jealous of the CA folks.  If you&#039;re looking for a east coast host, I&#039;d love to volunteer the Syracuse, NY area!  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like an awesome opportunity&#8230; I&#8217;m jealous of the CA folks.  If you&#8217;re looking for a east coast host, I&#8217;d love to volunteer the Syracuse, NY area!  <img src='http://commoncoretools.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Implementing the Common Core State Standards in Mathematics Workshop &#8211; October 12 -14, 2012 by Constance Cannon</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/09/12/implementing-the-common-core-state-standards-in-mathematics-workshop-october-12-14-2012/#comment-2418</link>
		<dc:creator>Constance Cannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 03:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=933#comment-2418</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[how about something/the same thing for the northeast? Please]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about something/the same thing for the northeast? Please</p>
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		<title>Comment on New blog registration feature by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/08/02/new-blog-registration-feature/#comment-2417</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=777#comment-2417</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t really know, all I know is that removing it worked! Were you cutting and pasting from a Word file? That might have introduced some weird characters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really know, all I know is that removing it worked! Were you cutting and pasting from a Word file? That might have introduced some weird characters.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New blog registration feature by Lynda</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/08/02/new-blog-registration-feature/#comment-2415</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 02:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=777#comment-2415</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[My inequalities comment must have been one of the malformed ones, becuase I can&#039;t find it anymore. What did I do wrong?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My inequalities comment must have been one of the malformed ones, becuase I can&#8217;t find it anymore. What did I do wrong?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Expressions and Equations by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/25/draft-of-progressions-on-expressions-and-equations/#comment-2413</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=129#comment-2413</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll answer this over in the forum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll answer this over in the forum.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New forums by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/07/29/new-forum/#comment-2412</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=642#comment-2412</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Questions like this and the last one belong over in the forum on general questions about the standards, not in this post about the forums. I&#039;ll close this comment thread off and answer the question over there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Questions like this and the last one belong over in the forum on general questions about the standards, not in this post about the forums. I&#8217;ll close this comment thread off and answer the question over there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Expressions and Equations by Lynda</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/25/draft-of-progressions-on-expressions-and-equations/#comment-2411</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 01:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=129#comment-2411</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I agree, and hoped the restrictions on the variables were only intended to restrict equations to those that did not require students to operate with signed numbers. The progression document only has examples of addition equations, so that still left me wondering. Perhaps a different example or simply a note for clarification would be helpful in the progressions document.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, and hoped the restrictions on the variables were only intended to restrict equations to those that did not require students to operate with signed numbers. The progression document only has examples of addition equations, so that still left me wondering. Perhaps a different example or simply a note for clarification would be helpful in the progressions document.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Expressions and Equations by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/25/draft-of-progressions-on-expressions-and-equations/#comment-2410</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 20:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=129#comment-2410</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[It seems a bit silly to exclude $x-2=5$, doesn&#039;t it? I think that might be a glitch in the standards; the restriction to positive $p$ and $q$ makes sense for $px=q$, since we don&#039;t multiply or divide negative numbers until Grade 7. But it seems reasonable to include $x-p =q$.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems a bit silly to exclude $x-2=5$, doesn&#8217;t it? I think that might be a glitch in the standards; the restriction to positive $p$ and $q$ makes sense for $px=q$, since we don&#8217;t multiply or divide negative numbers until Grade 7. But it seems reasonable to include $x-p =q$.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Expressions and Equations by mmazzucco</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/25/draft-of-progressions-on-expressions-and-equations/#comment-2409</link>
		<dc:creator>mmazzucco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 04:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=129#comment-2409</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I would like this clarified as well.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on New forums by mmazzucco</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/07/29/new-forum/#comment-2408</link>
		<dc:creator>mmazzucco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 04:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=642#comment-2408</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Any word on calculator usage on Common Core Assessments? The push is to make things real life, and calculators can allow teachers to use more &quot;real&quot; life numbers so that students can focus on the concept rather than the computations?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any word on calculator usage on Common Core Assessments? The push is to make things real life, and calculators can allow teachers to use more &#8220;real&#8221; life numbers so that students can focus on the concept rather than the computations?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Expressions and Equations by Lynda</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/25/draft-of-progressions-on-expressions-and-equations/#comment-2407</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 17:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=129#comment-2407</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Is the expectation with 6.EE.7 that students only solve addition and multiplicaiton equations in Grade 6 and not solve equations such as x - 2 = 5 until Grade 7?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the expectation with 6.EE.7 that students only solve addition and multiplicaiton equations in Grade 6 and not solve equations such as x &#8211; 2 = 5 until Grade 7?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Educational Technology TipsImplementing Common Core Standards &#187; Educational Technology Tips</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-2406</link>
		<dc:creator>Educational Technology TipsImplementing Common Core Standards &#187; Educational Technology Tips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?page_id=14#comment-2406</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[[...] Instruction will be highly data driven.  Data analysis will drive instruction.  Teachers will create new pacing guides to fit the common core standards.  The greatest impact of the new standards will be in the STEM community (science, technology, engineering, and mathematics).  The rote method of direct instruction is not applicable.  A site for mathematics is Tools for the Common Core. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Instruction will be highly data driven.  Data analysis will drive instruction.  Teachers will create new pacing guides to fit the common core standards.  The greatest impact of the new standards will be in the STEM community (science, technology, engineering, and mathematics).  The rote method of direct instruction is not applicable.  A site for mathematics is Tools for the Common Core. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Visual Map of the Content Standards by So You&#8217;ve Been to a Common Core Training? &#124; Educational Aspirations</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/11/18/visual-map-of-the-content-standards/#comment-2405</link>
		<dc:creator>So You&#8217;ve Been to a Common Core Training? &#124; Educational Aspirations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=270#comment-2405</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[[...] View a Map of the Common Core Standards [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on New blog registration feature by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/08/02/new-blog-registration-feature/#comment-2402</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=777#comment-2402</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The comments RSS feed was not working because of 2 malformed comments, which I have removed. You should now be able to see all 930 comments by pointing your RSS reader to the Comments RSS link on the right. If your reader is capable of searching the feed, this should be more efficient than using the blog search feature (don&#039;t ask me why WordPress has not yet improved this search).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments RSS feed was not working because of 2 malformed comments, which I have removed. You should now be able to see all 930 comments by pointing your RSS reader to the Comments RSS link on the right. If your reader is capable of searching the feed, this should be more efficient than using the blog search feature (don&#8217;t ask me why WordPress has not yet improved this search).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by kellyadelacruz</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-2401</link>
		<dc:creator>kellyadelacruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 21:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?page_id=14#comment-2401</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Indiana school board has put a very nice one out.  Google Indiana curriculum maps common core.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indiana school board has put a very nice one out.  Google Indiana curriculum maps common core.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New blog registration feature by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/08/02/new-blog-registration-feature/#comment-2400</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 20:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=777#comment-2400</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve set the rss feed so that it should be long enough to contain all the comments, although I am having trouble getting my feed reader to download them all. Another thing you can do is = go to a particular post, add /feed/ to the url, and paste the result into a feed reeder that allows you to search the entries. For example:

http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/feed/

will give you a feed of all the old comments on the General Questions post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve set the rss feed so that it should be long enough to contain all the comments, although I am having trouble getting my feed reader to download them all. Another thing you can do is = go to a particular post, add /feed/ to the url, and paste the result into a feed reeder that allows you to search the entries. For example:</p>
<p><a href="http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/feed/" rel="nofollow">http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/feed/</a></p>
<p>will give you a feed of all the old comments on the General Questions post.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by callahanpatrick</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-2399</link>
		<dc:creator>callahanpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 15:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=476#comment-2399</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The Real Number System standards are in there.  N-RN 1 and 2 are in Unit A7, and N-RN 3 is in unit A10.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Real Number System standards are in there.  N-RN 1 and 2 are in Unit A7, and N-RN 3 is in unit A10.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Dana</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-2397</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 17:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=476#comment-2397</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I am still confused as to why all the standards from the CCSSM are NOT in these documents. Where are the Real Number System standards?
Also, is there any coorelation/cooperation between these and the Dana Center&#039;s scope and sequence?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still confused as to why all the standards from the CCSSM are NOT in these documents. Where are the Real Number System standards?<br />
Also, is there any coorelation/cooperation between these and the Dana Center&#8217;s scope and sequence?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by awanty</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-2396</link>
		<dc:creator>awanty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 14:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=422#comment-2396</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Hello Dr. McCallum, Thank you for your article. I am a high school math teacher in Wisconsin trying to figure out how to teach the standards in my district, and I feel sometimes it&#039;s a struggle to even understand the standards. I am hoping these progressions documents will help. One question I have about the standards is why are some of them, like F.IF.7 are so long and mention multiple topics, while others, like S.ID.5, are more narrow and specific. Are some meant to be ongoing while others are only taught at select points in the curriculum?

I also am wondering how teachers are supposed to implement the standards with curriculum that, as you say, &quot;which supports learning the knowledge described by the standards&quot; when no such curriculum seems to exist. Right now the options are to search through our current curriculum to figure out what matches the standards or to create it completely on our own. Both are a lot of work and imperfect as they rely on our correct interpretation of the standards.

Sorry that can&#039;t frame all this into a specific question, but any suggestions or resources you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you, Alice]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dr. McCallum, Thank you for your article. I am a high school math teacher in Wisconsin trying to figure out how to teach the standards in my district, and I feel sometimes it&#8217;s a struggle to even understand the standards. I am hoping these progressions documents will help. One question I have about the standards is why are some of them, like F.IF.7 are so long and mention multiple topics, while others, like S.ID.5, are more narrow and specific. Are some meant to be ongoing while others are only taught at select points in the curriculum?</p>
<p>I also am wondering how teachers are supposed to implement the standards with curriculum that, as you say, &#8220;which supports learning the knowledge described by the standards&#8221; when no such curriculum seems to exist. Right now the options are to search through our current curriculum to figure out what matches the standards or to create it completely on our own. Both are a lot of work and imperfect as they rely on our correct interpretation of the standards.</p>
<p>Sorry that can&#8217;t frame all this into a specific question, but any suggestions or resources you can give me would be greatly appreciated.<br />
Thank you, Alice</p>
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		<title>Comment on New blog registration feature by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/08/02/new-blog-registration-feature/#comment-2394</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 05:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://commoncoretools.me/?p=777#comment-2394</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[In lieu of email notifications, I&#039;ve added RSS feeds to the login menu on the right for entries (posts), comments, and forums. You will need an RSS reader to read them. If you are using Mountain Lion on a Mac, you will find that Safari no longer opens RSS feeds. NewsFire, available from the App Store for $5, seems to work well. I couldn&#039;t find a free one that worked, and even some of the paid ones don&#039;t, so tread carefully. Perhaps others can post their experiences with other platforms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In lieu of email notifications, I&#8217;ve added RSS feeds to the login menu on the right for entries (posts), comments, and forums. You will need an RSS reader to read them. If you are using Mountain Lion on a Mac, you will find that Safari no longer opens RSS feeds. NewsFire, available from the App Store for $5, seems to work well. I couldn&#8217;t find a free one that worked, and even some of the paid ones don&#8217;t, so tread carefully. Perhaps others can post their experiences with other platforms.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New blog registration feature by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/08/02/new-blog-registration-feature/#comment-2393</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 00:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, if you have signed up for email notification of new posts using the button on the right, this apparently does not mean you get notified of every new topic or reply in the forums. You can subscribe to individual topics over there, but not to whole forums. And, if you have registered, then there are some controls on your profile page as I mentioned above, although they don&#039;t look terribly useful.

I&#039;ve been poking around to find a plugin that will manage this better, but haven&#039;t found one yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, if you have signed up for email notification of new posts using the button on the right, this apparently does not mean you get notified of every new topic or reply in the forums. You can subscribe to individual topics over there, but not to whole forums. And, if you have registered, then there are some controls on your profile page as I mentioned above, although they don&#8217;t look terribly useful.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been poking around to find a plugin that will manage this better, but haven&#8217;t found one yet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New forums by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/07/29/new-forum/#comment-2392</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2012 21:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Implementing the Common Core but not taking out topics from the previous standards is contrary to the basic principle of focus. The Common Core was designed to give teachers time to cover the important topics, and it does that by leaving out unimportant ones. So, putting those topics back in again defeats the whole purpose.

I don&#039;t think I know what you mean by functional assessments; are they the same as formative assessments? I certainly think the latter are important. 

As for your last question, which parts of the Common Core did you have in mind when you talk about &quot;so much rigor&quot;? I have talked to elementary teachers who believe it&#039;s possible to push students to learn without pushing them away, but I agree it&#039;s a skill we need to make sure teachers have.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Implementing the Common Core but not taking out topics from the previous standards is contrary to the basic principle of focus. The Common Core was designed to give teachers time to cover the important topics, and it does that by leaving out unimportant ones. So, putting those topics back in again defeats the whole purpose.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I know what you mean by functional assessments; are they the same as formative assessments? I certainly think the latter are important. </p>
<p>As for your last question, which parts of the Common Core did you have in mind when you talk about &#8220;so much rigor&#8221;? I have talked to elementary teachers who believe it&#8217;s possible to push students to learn without pushing them away, but I agree it&#8217;s a skill we need to make sure teachers have.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression for Statistics and Probability, Grades 6–8 by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/12/26/progression-for-statistics-and-probability-grades-6-8/#comment-2391</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2012 21:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, I&#039;m going to repost this over in the 6–8 Prob and Stats forum and answer it there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;m going to repost this over in the 6–8 Prob and Stats forum and answer it there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression for Statistics and Probability, Grades 6–8 by Corey Andreasen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/12/26/progression-for-statistics-and-probability-grades-6-8/#comment-2389</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey Andreasen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2012 20:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Bill. I&#039;m really impressed with the Common Core overall, and the Prob and Stats component in particular. And I like very much what the progressions documents do. 

I haven&#039;t read the progressions in a great deal of depth, but I did read looking for a couple particular things in 7th grade as they came up in a workshop I was doing. 

Standard 7.SP.3 &quot;Informally assess the degree of visual overlap of two numerical
data distributions with similar variabilities, measuring the difference
between the centers by expressing it as a multiple of a measure of
variability.&quot; will be difficult for teachers to understand. And once it&#039;s explained I think they&#039;ll have trouble understanding the point. I suggest that this should be expressed directly in the progression doc. Specifically an example showing the same different in means with different spreads. Maybe the larger spread example could be two samples from the same population, for example. Then keep the means the same but show a small spread, and clarify how using the measure of variability as your gauge is a way of assessing overlap. The idea is somewhat discussed, but I don&#039;t think this important point is made clear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Bill. I&#8217;m really impressed with the Common Core overall, and the Prob and Stats component in particular. And I like very much what the progressions documents do. </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read the progressions in a great deal of depth, but I did read looking for a couple particular things in 7th grade as they came up in a workshop I was doing. </p>
<p>Standard 7.SP.3 &#8220;Informally assess the degree of visual overlap of two numerical<br />
data distributions with similar variabilities, measuring the difference<br />
between the centers by expressing it as a multiple of a measure of<br />
variability.&#8221; will be difficult for teachers to understand. And once it&#8217;s explained I think they&#8217;ll have trouble understanding the point. I suggest that this should be expressed directly in the progression doc. Specifically an example showing the same different in means with different spreads. Maybe the larger spread example could be two samples from the same population, for example. Then keep the means the same but show a small spread, and clarify how using the measure of variability as your gauge is a way of assessing overlap. The idea is somewhat discussed, but I don&#8217;t think this important point is made clear.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New forums by Denise Haire</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/07/29/new-forum/#comment-2386</link>
		<dc:creator>Denise Haire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 18:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Mr McCallum:

You are obviously putting quite a bit of time and effort into this forum which is greatly appreciated. As a parent of three elementary age children, I am pleased to see what the new common core standards may have to offer. (Hopefully, the chance for kids to be kids for one) One concern I do have with the 2012-2013 school year is in regards to our county&#039;s transition plan. For grades 3-5 there will be &quot;full implementation of the common core with elements of the state curriculum infused&quot;. Do you have any thoughts on this approach. 

I loved your statement regarding teaching things such as skip counting for skip counting sake. With second grade twins last year, skip counting was not only taught as an indicator but was also continuously &quot;shoved&quot; into the curriculum throughout the year and regularly appeared on summative assessments. As parents, it was clear that teaching this for teaching sake only confused both children causing them at times difficulty in counting by ones. An example of too much information for their seven year old brains (a mile wide but only an inch thick). I was thrilled to hear Mr Daro discuss &quot;less is more&quot;.

I also wonder if the new common core standards will help teachers understand the true meaning of functional assessments? Teachers in our area use the term but continue to grade everything in a summative fashion. They put quizzes and tests into the summative category and even though everything else is still graded with a summative 0-100 grading scale, they call it functional. Will the common core standards address this at all?

Finally, although I understand the need for a focus on the STEM program at some point, is it necessary to introduce so much rigor at such an early age when children are developing and even still transitioning in to a full day of school? I have no issue with rigor and challenge but I also believe that the way it is being introduced to such young children will only push them away from the love they should have for school in their early years. I believe that intelligence is innate but not fixed. Whether we introduce certain challenges to our children at six years of age or at twelve, will not change their outcome. It will however, let the six year old be a six year old for the time being.

I realize this is  a great deal of info but would appreciate any thoughts you might have to offer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr McCallum:</p>
<p>You are obviously putting quite a bit of time and effort into this forum which is greatly appreciated. As a parent of three elementary age children, I am pleased to see what the new common core standards may have to offer. (Hopefully, the chance for kids to be kids for one) One concern I do have with the 2012-2013 school year is in regards to our county&#8217;s transition plan. For grades 3-5 there will be &#8220;full implementation of the common core with elements of the state curriculum infused&#8221;. Do you have any thoughts on this approach. </p>
<p>I loved your statement regarding teaching things such as skip counting for skip counting sake. With second grade twins last year, skip counting was not only taught as an indicator but was also continuously &#8220;shoved&#8221; into the curriculum throughout the year and regularly appeared on summative assessments. As parents, it was clear that teaching this for teaching sake only confused both children causing them at times difficulty in counting by ones. An example of too much information for their seven year old brains (a mile wide but only an inch thick). I was thrilled to hear Mr Daro discuss &#8220;less is more&#8221;.</p>
<p>I also wonder if the new common core standards will help teachers understand the true meaning of functional assessments? Teachers in our area use the term but continue to grade everything in a summative fashion. They put quizzes and tests into the summative category and even though everything else is still graded with a summative 0-100 grading scale, they call it functional. Will the common core standards address this at all?</p>
<p>Finally, although I understand the need for a focus on the STEM program at some point, is it necessary to introduce so much rigor at such an early age when children are developing and even still transitioning in to a full day of school? I have no issue with rigor and challenge but I also believe that the way it is being introduced to such young children will only push them away from the love they should have for school in their early years. I believe that intelligence is innate but not fixed. Whether we introduce certain challenges to our children at six years of age or at twelve, will not change their outcome. It will however, let the six year old be a six year old for the time being.</p>
<p>I realize this is  a great deal of info but would appreciate any thoughts you might have to offer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-2385</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 03:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This question was resubmitted by the poster to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://commoncoretools.me/forums/forum/public/3-5-fractions/&quot; title=&quot;3–5 Fractions&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fractions forum&lt;/a&gt;, and answered there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This question was resubmitted by the poster to the <a href="http://commoncoretools.me/forums/forum/public/3-5-fractions/" title="3–5 Fractions" rel="nofollow">fractions forum</a>, and answered there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-2384</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 03:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the reply to this, please see the &lt;a href=&quot;http://commoncoretools.me/forums/forum/public/3-5-fractions/&quot; title=&quot;3–5 Fractions&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;forum on the Fractions Progression&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the reply to this, please see the <a href="http://commoncoretools.me/forums/forum/public/3-5-fractions/" title="3–5 Fractions" rel="nofollow">forum on the Fractions Progression</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New forums by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/07/29/new-forum/#comment-2383</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 03:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Robert, I&#039;ve replied to this in the original thread where you posted it, &lt;a href=&quot;http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/&quot; title=&quot;General questions about the Mathematics standards&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, in case you hadn&#039;t noticed already. That thread is now closed an further questions should be posted in the forums.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert, I&#8217;ve replied to this in the original thread where you posted it, <a href="http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/" title="General questions about the Mathematics standards" rel="nofollow">here</a>, in case you hadn&#8217;t noticed already. That thread is now closed an further questions should be posted in the forums.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Dianne</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-2382</link>
		<dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saundra, thanks for your description. Although I don&#039;t have wisdom to offer you, I now understand something that in 8 years of playing intuitively in the school band, I didn&#039;t get: the translation of the time signatures.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saundra, thanks for your description. Although I don&#8217;t have wisdom to offer you, I now understand something that in 8 years of playing intuitively in the school band, I didn&#8217;t get: the translation of the time signatures.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2378</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The place value understanding expressed in 5.NBT.1 is foundational to the rest of the standards. That said, note that it is part of a progression of standards from earlier grades, 1.NBT.2, 2.NBT.1, and 4.NBT.1. In particular, 4.NBT.1 says &quot;Recognize that in a multi-digit whole number, a digit in one place represents ten times what it represents in the place to its right.&quot; This is enough to support the part of 5.NBT.2 that deals with whole numbers. I can imagine a curriculum that threads its way through that part of the standard first, then comes back to the issue of decimals later. 

Basically, the standards are not units of instruction; you don&#039;t always &quot;teach a standard&quot; in one chunk, whatever the order. For example, the OA and NBT standards in any given great level are very closely related, and a curriculum might be touching on these two domains simultaneously at times, not to mention supporting standards in MD and other domains. The standards describe achievements we want students to have. As my colleague Jason Zimba likes to say, you don&#039;t teach standards, you teach math.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The place value understanding expressed in 5.NBT.1 is foundational to the rest of the standards. That said, note that it is part of a progression of standards from earlier grades, 1.NBT.2, 2.NBT.1, and 4.NBT.1. In particular, 4.NBT.1 says &#8220;Recognize that in a multi-digit whole number, a digit in one place represents ten times what it represents in the place to its right.&#8221; This is enough to support the part of 5.NBT.2 that deals with whole numbers. I can imagine a curriculum that threads its way through that part of the standard first, then comes back to the issue of decimals later. </p>
<p>Basically, the standards are not units of instruction; you don&#8217;t always &#8220;teach a standard&#8221; in one chunk, whatever the order. For example, the OA and NBT standards in any given great level are very closely related, and a curriculum might be touching on these two domains simultaneously at times, not to mention supporting standards in MD and other domains. The standards describe achievements we want students to have. As my colleague Jason Zimba likes to say, you don&#8217;t teach standards, you teach math.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft high school Statistics and Probability progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/21/draft-high-school-statistics-and-probability-progression/#comment-2377</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They could either use technology or they could just use the expression for the normal distribution in terms of these parameters. Also, I think it would be better if the standard had said &quot;fit a normal distribution to the data&quot; not the other way around.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They could either use technology or they could just use the expression for the normal distribution in terms of these parameters. Also, I think it would be better if the standard had said &#8220;fit a normal distribution to the data&#8221; not the other way around.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft high school Statistics and Probability progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/21/draft-high-school-statistics-and-probability-progression/#comment-2376</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point. I guess maybe it should &quot;as the standard deviation then has a well-known interpretation ...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. I guess maybe it should &#8220;as the standard deviation then has a well-known interpretation &#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on New forums by Robert Jones</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/07/29/new-forum/#comment-2375</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I apologize if this is a duplicate on an older forum - wasn&#039;t sure if it was still active so I re-posted my message here.
I asked a question earlier about the sequence of standards, the way they are sequenced in the CCSS document compared to the sequence that a classroom teacher might create. I do understand from page 5 that the sequence in the CCSS was not intended to be a rigid format for us to hold ourselves to. Our academic leaders have always given us given the liberty to decide what is best for the students within our classroom environment. I’d like to narrow my initial comment down to a more specific concern about the sequence of 5.NBT. Scenario: I teach 5.NBT.2 the first week, followed by 5.NBT.5-.6. Seven weeks later I teach 5.NBT.1 and 3,4,6,and 7 later on. In this case, it seems to me that NBT.1 would be a foundation that leads precedes NBT.2. The remaining standards within NBT would be at my discretion. As a classroom teacher, could you see the rationale for the sequence of NBT.2 before NBT.1? There is a lot of ground to cover with the CCSS and I want to make sure I do it justice on behalf of my students. Thank you in advance for your reply.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize if this is a duplicate on an older forum &#8211; wasn&#8217;t sure if it was still active so I re-posted my message here.<br />
I asked a question earlier about the sequence of standards, the way they are sequenced in the CCSS document compared to the sequence that a classroom teacher might create. I do understand from page 5 that the sequence in the CCSS was not intended to be a rigid format for us to hold ourselves to. Our academic leaders have always given us given the liberty to decide what is best for the students within our classroom environment. I’d like to narrow my initial comment down to a more specific concern about the sequence of 5.NBT. Scenario: I teach 5.NBT.2 the first week, followed by 5.NBT.5-.6. Seven weeks later I teach 5.NBT.1 and 3,4,6,and 7 later on. In this case, it seems to me that NBT.1 would be a foundation that leads precedes NBT.2. The remaining standards within NBT would be at my discretion. As a classroom teacher, could you see the rationale for the sequence of NBT.2 before NBT.1? There is a lot of ground to cover with the CCSS and I want to make sure I do it justice on behalf of my students. Thank you in advance for your reply.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Duane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-2373</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Page 8 of the NF Progressions document provides an example of multiplying a whole number by a mixed number in Grade 4. Is this an accurate example as the Standards only use the term &quot;fractions&quot; (4.NF.4c) not &quot;fractions and mixed numbers&quot; as is used elsewhere (5.NF.6).

Similarly, page 9 provides an example of converting a mixed number to a decimal fraction, and converting 2.70 to 2.7. Is this beyond what students should be doing? Should conversions be kept to amounts less than 1?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Page 8 of the NF Progressions document provides an example of multiplying a whole number by a mixed number in Grade 4. Is this an accurate example as the Standards only use the term &#8220;fractions&#8221; (4.NF.4c) not &#8220;fractions and mixed numbers&#8221; as is used elsewhere (5.NF.6).</p>
<p>Similarly, page 9 provides an example of converting a mixed number to a decimal fraction, and converting 2.70 to 2.7. Is this beyond what students should be doing? Should conversions be kept to amounts less than 1?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by New forum &#124; Tools for the Common Core Standards</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2371</link>
		<dc:creator>New forum &#124; Tools for the Common Core Standards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 23:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] forum (you can also always access this from the menu bar above). The old thread with questions is here, but it is no longer possible to add comments. Before posting a question, please use each of the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] forum (you can also always access this from the menu bar above). The old thread with questions is here, but it is no longer possible to add comments. Before posting a question, please use each of the [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Robert Jones</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2370</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I asked a question earlier about the sequence of standards, the way they are sequenced in the CCSS document compared to the sequence that a classroom teacher might create. I do understand from page 5 that the sequence in the CCSS was not intended to be a rigid format for us to hold ourselves to. Our academic leaders have always given us given the liberty to decide what is best for the students within our classroom environment. I&#039;d like to narrow my initial comment down to a more specific concern about the sequence of 5.NBT. Scenario: I teach 5.NBT.2 the first week, followed by 5.NBT.5-.6. Seven weeks later I teach 5.NBT.1 and 3,4,6,and 7 later on.  In this case, it seems to me that NBT.1 would be a foundation that leads precedes NBT.2. The remaining standards within NBT would be at my discretion. As a classroom teacher, could you see the rationale for the sequence of NBT.2 before NBT.1? There is a lot of ground to cover with the CCSS and I want to make sure I do it justice on behalf of my students. Thank you in advance for your reply.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I asked a question earlier about the sequence of standards, the way they are sequenced in the CCSS document compared to the sequence that a classroom teacher might create. I do understand from page 5 that the sequence in the CCSS was not intended to be a rigid format for us to hold ourselves to. Our academic leaders have always given us given the liberty to decide what is best for the students within our classroom environment. I&#8217;d like to narrow my initial comment down to a more specific concern about the sequence of 5.NBT. Scenario: I teach 5.NBT.2 the first week, followed by 5.NBT.5-.6. Seven weeks later I teach 5.NBT.1 and 3,4,6,and 7 later on.  In this case, it seems to me that NBT.1 would be a foundation that leads precedes NBT.2. The remaining standards within NBT would be at my discretion. As a classroom teacher, could you see the rationale for the sequence of NBT.2 before NBT.1? There is a lot of ground to cover with the CCSS and I want to make sure I do it justice on behalf of my students. Thank you in advance for your reply.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2367</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 02:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The standards don&#039;t mention the specific terms, so I think this is going to be up to curriculum designers to decide. And, of course, assessment writers will have some influence on this. That said, my feeling is that it&#039;s going to be hard to talk about these things without introducing the standard terminology.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The standards don&#8217;t mention the specific terms, so I think this is going to be up to curriculum designers to decide. And, of course, assessment writers will have some influence on this. That said, my feeling is that it&#8217;s going to be hard to talk about these things without introducing the standard terminology.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 02:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michelle, your understanding is correct, this is a good summary. Students are expected to solve one-step linear equations with positive coefficients and solutions; for inequalities, they are expected to work with and understand solutions in various ways, but not to actually solve them. 

I was confused by your MCC6.EE.8. It seems to say that students should solve inequalities of the form px + q &lt; r, which is not in the Grade 6 standards. Maybe it is a cut and paste error or maybe that is a place where your state added something to the standards (but did they really add these sorts of inequalities without also increasing the demand on equations?).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle, your understanding is correct, this is a good summary. Students are expected to solve one-step linear equations with positive coefficients and solutions; for inequalities, they are expected to work with and understand solutions in various ways, but not to actually solve them. </p>
<p>I was confused by your MCC6.EE.8. It seems to say that students should solve inequalities of the form px + q < r, which is not in the Grade 6 standards. Maybe it is a cut and paste error or maybe that is a place where your state added something to the standards (but did they really add these sorts of inequalities without also increasing the demand on equations?).</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2365</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 01:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Duane, you are quite right that the Progression violates the restriction on what students are expected to work with here, and maybe we should use a different example. Although I would repeat the general comment I&#039;ve made elsewhere that a restriction on expectations does not forbid the teacher from ever mentioning examples beyond the expectations. For example, a comparison between 2/3 and 3/5 might well come up in a Grade 4 classroom. The restrictions in the standards are intended to both restrict what can be put on an assessment, and to put the brakes on over-enthusiastic focus on one part of the standards; they aren&#039;t intended to forbid the use of examples that time and common sense allow.

The &quot;Grade 5&quot; at the top of page 6 is correct. The idea is to point out that this common justification of the rule about equivalent fractions doesn&#039;t really make sense until Grade 5, when students start to multiply fractions by fractions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duane, you are quite right that the Progression violates the restriction on what students are expected to work with here, and maybe we should use a different example. Although I would repeat the general comment I&#8217;ve made elsewhere that a restriction on expectations does not forbid the teacher from ever mentioning examples beyond the expectations. For example, a comparison between 2/3 and 3/5 might well come up in a Grade 4 classroom. The restrictions in the standards are intended to both restrict what can be put on an assessment, and to put the brakes on over-enthusiastic focus on one part of the standards; they aren&#8217;t intended to forbid the use of examples that time and common sense allow.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Grade 5&#8243; at the top of page 6 is correct. The idea is to point out that this common justification of the rule about equivalent fractions doesn&#8217;t really make sense until Grade 5, when students start to multiply fractions by fractions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2364</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 01:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These are great ideas, Karen. In response to the concern about de-emphasizing time and money, I would say that there is no reason why time and money can&#039;t be used to support the work on arithmetic. The point is that they are not topics in their own right in the mathematics curriculum, but they are certainly included in the possible contexts for word problems, measurement problems, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are great ideas, Karen. In response to the concern about de-emphasizing time and money, I would say that there is no reason why time and money can&#8217;t be used to support the work on arithmetic. The point is that they are not topics in their own right in the mathematics curriculum, but they are certainly included in the possible contexts for word problems, measurement problems, etc.</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2363</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 01:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, this is connected to the progression in fraction multiplication. Students don&#039;t multiply  quantities by fractions until Grade 5, so saying &quot;an inch is 1/12 as a big as a foot&quot; would be sort of jumping the gun in Grade 4.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this is connected to the progression in fraction multiplication. Students don&#8217;t multiply  quantities by fractions until Grade 5, so saying &#8220;an inch is 1/12 as a big as a foot&#8221; would be sort of jumping the gun in Grade 4.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2362</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 01:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some fundamental formulas for area are in the standards, but in many cases students are expected to find areas by decomposing figures, e.g.
&lt;blockquote&gt;
6.G.1. Find the area of right triangles, other triangles, special quadrilaterals, and polygons by composing into rectangles or decomposing into triangles and other shapes; apply these techniques in the context of solving real-world and mathematical problems.
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A trapezoid counts as a special quadrilateral. Students who have calculated a few areas this way might begin to be able to see &lt;em&gt;why&lt;/em&gt; the formula is true. 

There&#039;s no reason why pyramids couldn&#039;t be included in Grades 7 or 8, although as you point out they aren&#039;t explicitly required. Note that the &quot;formula&quot; is the same for both pyramids and cones, if you take it to be Volume = (1/2) x Area of Base x Height. 

In high school, G-GMD.1, students are expected to understand at least informally why this is true. This line of reasoning actually starts with pyramids.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some fundamental formulas for area are in the standards, but in many cases students are expected to find areas by decomposing figures, e.g.</p>
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6.G.1. Find the area of right triangles, other triangles, special quadrilaterals, and polygons by composing into rectangles or decomposing into triangles and other shapes; apply these techniques in the context of solving real-world and mathematical problems.
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<p>A trapezoid counts as a special quadrilateral. Students who have calculated a few areas this way might begin to be able to see <em>why</em> the formula is true. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no reason why pyramids couldn&#8217;t be included in Grades 7 or 8, although as you point out they aren&#8217;t explicitly required. Note that the &#8220;formula&#8221; is the same for both pyramids and cones, if you take it to be Volume = (1/2) x Area of Base x Height. </p>
<p>In high school, G-GMD.1, students are expected to understand at least informally why this is true. This line of reasoning actually starts with pyramids.</p>
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		<dc:creator>ingristro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 21:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding S-ID.4, how do you see students &quot;fitting&quot; data to a normal distribution at this level?]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Karen G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amanda,
I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;re looking for suggestions on how to address money as a life skill (as opposed to a math skill) or not, but I&#039;ll offer one up anyway. 

I know teachers in our area are concerned about the de-emphasis on time and money in 2nd grade as compared to our state standards. I used to use money as part of my classroom management plan and it worked really well. It has the bonus of being able to focus on money year-round as well as using it in an authentic context. 

What I describe was used with third graders, but it could easily be adapted to 2nd. 

I gave each student a bank account and a checkbook. I initially used fake money, but there ended up being a rash of thefts. I liked the checks because they had to use the written form of the number. 

Each student was paid for being a student, we&#039;ll say $\$100$/wk. There were performance perks - turning in all homework on time all week might have gotten the child a $\$10$ bonus. There were fines for rule infractions; if they forgot supplies they purchased them from me. Occasionally I&#039;d set up a store for them to shop for treats. We also had days in which they could set up their own store and bring in toys to sell to each other. Class rewards were based on their balance since that was a good indicator of behavior and responsibility e.g. Everyone who had a balance of $54 or greater could have lunch in the classroom.

Logistics - I asked my bank to donate some blank counter checks. You only need a few to copy. I kept the checks in a common pile because having each student keep up with their personal checkbook proved too complicated. They did have to keep up with their own register, though. 

The system worked really well and provided lots of opportunity for math throughout the day. It also allows them to &quot;discover&quot; the concept of negative numbers as their accounts went into the red. 

Karen]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda,<br />
I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;re looking for suggestions on how to address money as a life skill (as opposed to a math skill) or not, but I&#8217;ll offer one up anyway. </p>
<p>I know teachers in our area are concerned about the de-emphasis on time and money in 2nd grade as compared to our state standards. I used to use money as part of my classroom management plan and it worked really well. It has the bonus of being able to focus on money year-round as well as using it in an authentic context. </p>
<p>What I describe was used with third graders, but it could easily be adapted to 2nd. </p>
<p>I gave each student a bank account and a checkbook. I initially used fake money, but there ended up being a rash of thefts. I liked the checks because they had to use the written form of the number. </p>
<p>Each student was paid for being a student, we&#8217;ll say $\$100$/wk. There were performance perks &#8211; turning in all homework on time all week might have gotten the child a $\$10$ bonus. There were fines for rule infractions; if they forgot supplies they purchased them from me. Occasionally I&#8217;d set up a store for them to shop for treats. We also had days in which they could set up their own store and bring in toys to sell to each other. Class rewards were based on their balance since that was a good indicator of behavior and responsibility e.g. Everyone who had a balance of $54 or greater could have lunch in the classroom.</p>
<p>Logistics &#8211; I asked my bank to donate some blank counter checks. You only need a few to copy. I kept the checks in a common pile because having each student keep up with their personal checkbook proved too complicated. They did have to keep up with their own register, though. </p>
<p>The system worked really well and provided lots of opportunity for math throughout the day. It also allows them to &#8220;discover&#8221; the concept of negative numbers as their accounts went into the red. </p>
<p>Karen</p>
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		<title>Comment on Possible outage on Thursday, July 26 by Mark Mortensen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/07/25/possible-outage-on-thursday/#comment-2359</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Mortensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This site is an important tool for me in my efforts with the CCSSM. Thanks for all your efforts in making it even better.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Possible outage on Thursday, July 26 by Erin Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/07/25/possible-outage-on-thursday/#comment-2349</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah!!  I was hoping that the general questions could be made easier to search :)  Thank you for the heads-up and for your ongoing efforts to help us better understand the mathematics standards.  It is greatly appreciated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah!!  I was hoping that the general questions could be made easier to search <img src='http://commoncoretools.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Thank you for the heads-up and for your ongoing efforts to help us better understand the mathematics standards.  It is greatly appreciated.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Possible outage on Thursday, July 26 by Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thumbs up for this effort!! :-)]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I noticed that in the illustrative mathematics example (8.G Find the Missing Angle) under 8.G.05 the Solution quotes as one of the steps &quot;Since m and l are parallel, the alternate interior angles ZAX and AZB have the same measure&quot;.  
My question is: If part of the 8.G.05 standard is supposed to &quot;establish facts about the angles created when parallel lines are cut by a transversal&quot;, is it ok that the official names of the angles created (alternate interior, alternate exterior, etc) be used when assessing students knowledge of the facts established under this task?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that in the illustrative mathematics example (8.G Find the Missing Angle) under 8.G.05 the Solution quotes as one of the steps &#8220;Since m and l are parallel, the alternate interior angles ZAX and AZB have the same measure&#8221;.<br />
My question is: If part of the 8.G.05 standard is supposed to &#8220;establish facts about the angles created when parallel lines are cut by a transversal&#8221;, is it ok that the official names of the angles created (alternate interior, alternate exterior, etc) be used when assessing students knowledge of the facts established under this task?</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I too have the same question and am interested to know the response to the question David referred to below on April 30, 2012. Please let us know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have the same question and am interested to know the response to the question David referred to below on April 30, 2012. Please let us know.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2339</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Duane, replying to both comments here. I think you have to look at the entire sentence, e.g., in 2.NBT.5, &quot;Fluently add and subtract within 100 using strategies based on place value, properties of operations, and/or the relationship between addition and subtraction.&quot; The phrase &quot;using strategies based on place value, etc.&quot; qualifies the type of strategies to be used; the &quot;and/or&quot; is there because a given strategy might not be based on all of the things listed. The things listed are not a checklist to be covered by the end of a given grade; they constrain the type of strategies that students should be practicing. For example, counting on for addition is not a strategy based on place value, the properties of operations, or the relation between addition and subtraction. However, calculating 8+13 by breaking 8 into 1 + 7 and then adding the 7 to the 13 to get 20 and then adding the 1 is based on both place value (because you are focusing on what needs to be added to 3 to make 10) and on the properties of operations (because you are regrouping the addition from (1 + 7) + 13 to 1 + (7 + 13)). Calculating 81-73 by saying &quot;I know I need to add 7 to 73 to get 80 and then 1 more to get 81, so the answer is 7 + 1 = 8&quot; is based on place value and the relation between addition and subtraction (also implicitly on regrouping, but that&#039;s a bit more subtle in this case).

I would point out that there is no standard requiring students to be able to state the properties of operations. However, they should be able to explain their strategies, and this will inevitably involve talking about the way operations work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duane, replying to both comments here. I think you have to look at the entire sentence, e.g., in 2.NBT.5, &#8220;Fluently add and subtract within 100 using strategies based on place value, properties of operations, and/or the relationship between addition and subtraction.&#8221; The phrase &#8220;using strategies based on place value, etc.&#8221; qualifies the type of strategies to be used; the &#8220;and/or&#8221; is there because a given strategy might not be based on all of the things listed. The things listed are not a checklist to be covered by the end of a given grade; they constrain the type of strategies that students should be practicing. For example, counting on for addition is not a strategy based on place value, the properties of operations, or the relation between addition and subtraction. However, calculating 8+13 by breaking 8 into 1 + 7 and then adding the 7 to the 13 to get 20 and then adding the 1 is based on both place value (because you are focusing on what needs to be added to 3 to make 10) and on the properties of operations (because you are regrouping the addition from (1 + 7) + 13 to 1 + (7 + 13)). Calculating 81-73 by saying &#8220;I know I need to add 7 to 73 to get 80 and then 1 more to get 81, so the answer is 7 + 1 = 8&#8243; is based on place value and the relation between addition and subtraction (also implicitly on regrouping, but that&#8217;s a bit more subtle in this case).</p>
<p>I would point out that there is no standard requiring students to be able to state the properties of operations. However, they should be able to explain their strategies, and this will inevitably involve talking about the way operations work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Message from concerned teacher...
I am in need of clarification about the extent of teaching 6th graders about inequalities. II have seen in some task  and common core workbooks where the  student is being asked to solve 1-step inequalities,but it is not explicitly stated in the standards (see below). 

In the standards, I do not see where the 6th grade student is asked to specifically solve an inequality as they are asked to solve an equation.
The standard is specific about the type of equation the students should solve but does not indicate that the student has to solve an inequality. 
My understanding of the standards is that students are being asked to:

  * Identify from a given set whether a value is a solution of an
    inequality. They are using substitution to find solutions of
    inequality. 
  * Solve one-step equations
  * Write inequalities given a specific situation
  * Recognize that inequalities can have an infinitely number of solutions.
  * Graph solution sets of inequalities on a number line.

6.EE.5. Understand solving an equation or inequality as a process of answering a question: which values from a specified set, if any, make the equation or inequality true? Use substitution to determine whether a given number in a specified set makes an equation or inequality true.

MCC6.EE.7. Solve real-world and mathematical problems by writing and solving equations of the form x + p = q and px = q for cases in which p, q and x are all nonnegative rational numbers.

MCC6.EE.8. Write an inequality of the form x &gt; c or x  c or x  r or px + q &lt; r, where p, q, and r are specific rational numbers. Graph the solution set of the inequality and interpret it in the context of the problem. For example: As a salesperson, you are paid $\$50$ per week plus $\$3$ per sale. This week you want your pay to be at least $100. Write an inequality for the number of sales you need to make, and describe the solutions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Message from concerned teacher&#8230;<br />
I am in need of clarification about the extent of teaching 6th graders about inequalities. II have seen in some task  and common core workbooks where the  student is being asked to solve 1-step inequalities,but it is not explicitly stated in the standards (see below). </p>
<p>In the standards, I do not see where the 6th grade student is asked to specifically solve an inequality as they are asked to solve an equation.<br />
The standard is specific about the type of equation the students should solve but does not indicate that the student has to solve an inequality.<br />
My understanding of the standards is that students are being asked to:</p>
<p>  * Identify from a given set whether a value is a solution of an<br />
    inequality. They are using substitution to find solutions of<br />
    inequality.<br />
  * Solve one-step equations<br />
  * Write inequalities given a specific situation<br />
  * Recognize that inequalities can have an infinitely number of solutions.<br />
  * Graph solution sets of inequalities on a number line.</p>
<p>6.EE.5. Understand solving an equation or inequality as a process of answering a question: which values from a specified set, if any, make the equation or inequality true? Use substitution to determine whether a given number in a specified set makes an equation or inequality true.</p>
<p>MCC6.EE.7. Solve real-world and mathematical problems by writing and solving equations of the form x + p = q and px = q for cases in which p, q and x are all nonnegative rational numbers.</p>
<p>MCC6.EE.8. Write an inequality of the form x &gt; c or x  c or x  r or px + q &lt; r, where p, q, and r are specific rational numbers. Graph the solution set of the inequality and interpret it in the context of the problem. For example: As a salesperson, you are paid $\$50$ per week plus $\$3$ per sale. This week you want your pay to be at least $100. Write an inequality for the number of sales you need to make, and describe the solutions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 04:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another question. (It&#039;s been a busy few days!) In Grade 4, students use fractions with denominators limited to 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, and 100 (according to the Standards, p.30). Yet in the relevant Progressions document (p.5) the example provided for comparison of fractions (4.NF.2) shows 96 as a common denominator for 5/8 and 7/12. Having other denominators outside the stipulated range are also likely when comparing, for example, thirds and fifths, fourths and tenths, and so on. 

Is it the case that the example in the Progressions document is *not* one to use with students but is just meant to illustrate to teachers what is required? Or is it expected that students will need to tackle denominators outside the stipulated range for Grade 4?

Also, at the top of p.6 of the Progressions document on fractions is the third line down meant to begin &quot;Grade 5 students...&quot; or &quot;Grade 4 students...&quot;? Thanks!

P.S. Thanks Karen G (July 23) for the response about improvised units!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another question. (It&#8217;s been a busy few days!) In Grade 4, students use fractions with denominators limited to 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, and 100 (according to the Standards, p.30). Yet in the relevant Progressions document (p.5) the example provided for comparison of fractions (4.NF.2) shows 96 as a common denominator for 5/8 and 7/12. Having other denominators outside the stipulated range are also likely when comparing, for example, thirds and fifths, fourths and tenths, and so on. </p>
<p>Is it the case that the example in the Progressions document is *not* one to use with students but is just meant to illustrate to teachers what is required? Or is it expected that students will need to tackle denominators outside the stipulated range for Grade 4?</p>
<p>Also, at the top of p.6 of the Progressions document on fractions is the third line down meant to begin &#8220;Grade 5 students&#8230;&#8221; or &#8220;Grade 4 students&#8230;&#8221;? Thanks!</p>
<p>P.S. Thanks Karen G (July 23) for the response about improvised units!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Amanda Brrooks</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2325</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Brrooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 04:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Dr. McCallum,

I am from Washington state, and we are beginning to roll out the CCSS standards this year for K-2. I currently teach second grade and am on a team that is working on scope and sequence along with benchmarking in needed areas. We are a fairly low income area, and knowledge of money is not something that a vast majority of our students have knowledge of or get practice with outside of our classroom. With money being taught in second grade, we take it very seriously since it is such a life skill. My question may be a stupid question, but when looking at 2.MD.8, working with time and money, it states that students need to work with dollars and cents. 

I am assuming that when the standard speaks of &quot;dollars&quot; that we are including $1.00, $5.00, $10.00, $20.00, $50.00, and $100.00 bills? I saw the post earlier about teaching the dollars in whole amounts in conjunction with whole number addition and subtraction. And that makes total sense to me. 

Our former state standard only had students making amounts with coins up to $1.00, so this is going to be a big transition for our teachers (and students). I will be going in to a meeting to train teachers who are new to standards based grading in August, and I would like to be able to answer questions about the standards as well as formative and summative assessments. 

I really appreciate the forum and the outlet in which to get some clarity. I am excited about working with the new standards, but want to make sure that I am presenting things accurately with my colleagues, and most importantly, my students.

Best Regards,
Amanda]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dr. McCallum,</p>
<p>I am from Washington state, and we are beginning to roll out the CCSS standards this year for K-2. I currently teach second grade and am on a team that is working on scope and sequence along with benchmarking in needed areas. We are a fairly low income area, and knowledge of money is not something that a vast majority of our students have knowledge of or get practice with outside of our classroom. With money being taught in second grade, we take it very seriously since it is such a life skill. My question may be a stupid question, but when looking at 2.MD.8, working with time and money, it states that students need to work with dollars and cents. </p>
<p>I am assuming that when the standard speaks of &#8220;dollars&#8221; that we are including $1.00, $5.00, $10.00, $20.00, $50.00, and $100.00 bills? I saw the post earlier about teaching the dollars in whole amounts in conjunction with whole number addition and subtraction. And that makes total sense to me. </p>
<p>Our former state standard only had students making amounts with coins up to $1.00, so this is going to be a big transition for our teachers (and students). I will be going in to a meeting to train teachers who are new to standards based grading in August, and I would like to be able to answer questions about the standards as well as formative and summative assessments. </p>
<p>I really appreciate the forum and the outlet in which to get some clarity. I am excited about working with the new standards, but want to make sure that I am presenting things accurately with my colleagues, and most importantly, my students.</p>
<p>Best Regards,<br />
Amanda</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Bill McCallum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 00:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marshall, I should figure out a blanket policy for this, but at the moment it would be best for you to get in touch with me privately at william.mccallum@gmail.com, and we will sort something out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marshall, I should figure out a blanket policy for this, but at the moment it would be best for you to get in touch with me privately at <a href="mailto:william.mccallum@gmail.com">william.mccallum@gmail.com</a>, and we will sort something out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Duane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2322</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In 4.MD.1 it seems that students do conversions *only* from larger measurement units to smaller ones.  

5.MD.1 appears to have students convert larger to smaller but also smaller to larger. 

Is that a correct interpretation?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 4.MD.1 it seems that students do conversions *only* from larger measurement units to smaller ones.  </p>
<p>5.MD.1 appears to have students convert larger to smaller but also smaller to larger. </p>
<p>Is that a correct interpretation?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Heather Cousins</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2319</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather Cousins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 18:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In studying the middle school Geometry standards, we have located where the formulas for area of most figures are developed but we are missing trapezoid.  Can you point us in the right direction?

Also, volume of most 3-d figures is developed as well but pyramids are missing.  Do they belong with prisms in grade 7 or with cylinders, cones, and spheres in grade 8?

Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In studying the middle school Geometry standards, we have located where the formulas for area of most figures are developed but we are missing trapezoid.  Can you point us in the right direction?</p>
<p>Also, volume of most 3-d figures is developed as well but pyramids are missing.  Do they belong with prisms in grade 7 or with cylinders, cones, and spheres in grade 8?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Marshall Taxer</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-2316</link>
		<dc:creator>Marshall Taxer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill --
How does a commercial (for profit) organization get permission to reprint and distribute your tools (such as the CCSS progression) to participants in a face to face course?  I could not find a specific email address to contact for permissions.  Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill &#8211;<br />
How does a commercial (for profit) organization get permission to reprint and distribute your tools (such as the CCSS progression) to participants in a face to face course?  I could not find a specific email address to contact for permissions.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Karen G.</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2305</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Duane,
Re. improvised units - 
An example of an improvised unit I&#039;ve used in third grade is post-it notes. Students used them to cover their tables and other surfaces in the classroom. The goal of the lessons was not to get a standard measure of the area of the table, but to ensure students understood that area was a measure of coverage of the plane. It was also an opportunity to see if students had internalized the structure of arrays. Since the post-its were of a uniform size, we could also compare results. 

Not an official answer, of course, but it might give you some ideas of avenues to take.
Karen]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Duane,<br />
Re. improvised units &#8211;<br />
An example of an improvised unit I&#8217;ve used in third grade is post-it notes. Students used them to cover their tables and other surfaces in the classroom. The goal of the lessons was not to get a standard measure of the area of the table, but to ensure students understood that area was a measure of coverage of the plane. It was also an opportunity to see if students had internalized the structure of arrays. Since the post-its were of a uniform size, we could also compare results. </p>
<p>Not an official answer, of course, but it might give you some ideas of avenues to take.<br />
Karen</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Duane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2297</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 03:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve noticed that some standards incorporate the phrase &quot;and/or&quot;. For example, 3.NBT.2 &quot;Fluently add and subtract within 1000 using strategies and algorithms based on place value, properties of operations, and/or the relationship between addition and subtraction.&quot;

In this example, should &quot;and/or&quot; be interpreted as meaning that any of &quot;place value&quot;, &quot;properties of operations&quot;, and &quot;the relationship between addition and subtraction&quot; should only be used at any one time but all should be covered by the end of Grade 3? Or that you could use any combination of the three at one time? Or that it is okay if only one of them is covered by the end of Grade 3? And what would guide these decisions for teachers? Any of the approaches in 3.NBT.2 potentially could be used - I&#039;m not sure if the expectation is to just use one or all of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed that some standards incorporate the phrase &#8220;and/or&#8221;. For example, 3.NBT.2 &#8220;Fluently add and subtract within 1000 using strategies and algorithms based on place value, properties of operations, and/or the relationship between addition and subtraction.&#8221;</p>
<p>In this example, should &#8220;and/or&#8221; be interpreted as meaning that any of &#8220;place value&#8221;, &#8220;properties of operations&#8221;, and &#8220;the relationship between addition and subtraction&#8221; should only be used at any one time but all should be covered by the end of Grade 3? Or that you could use any combination of the three at one time? Or that it is okay if only one of them is covered by the end of Grade 3? And what would guide these decisions for teachers? Any of the approaches in 3.NBT.2 potentially could be used &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure if the expectation is to just use one or all of them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Duane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2296</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 00:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill, looking at 2.NBT.5, 2.NBT.7 and 3.OA.5, I see that using the properties of operations are suggested to help add and subtract (Grade 2) and multiply and divide (Grade 3). The properties of addition and multiplication are easily understood but how are the properties of subtraction and division meant to be used? 

On a different topic, 3.MD.6 asks students to measure area by counting unit squares and improvised units. What would improvised units include and why should students use them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, looking at 2.NBT.5, 2.NBT.7 and 3.OA.5, I see that using the properties of operations are suggested to help add and subtract (Grade 2) and multiply and divide (Grade 3). The properties of addition and multiplication are easily understood but how are the properties of subtraction and division meant to be used? </p>
<p>On a different topic, 3.MD.6 asks students to measure area by counting unit squares and improvised units. What would improvised units include and why should students use them?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by How Does the K-8 Publisher&#8217;s Criteria for CCSSM Help the Classroom Teacher? &#124; WatsonMath.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>How Does the K-8 Publisher&#8217;s Criteria for CCSSM Help the Classroom Teacher? &#124; WatsonMath.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is a link to Bill McCallum&#8217;s blog Tools for the Common Core.  Go to the Tools bar at the top and then click Progressions Documents for the Common Core. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2285</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This question has been discussed already in this thread; you can find the discussions by searching for the word &quot;pattern&quot; using your web browser&#039;s search functionality while you have this thread open (not using the blog&#039;s search feature).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This question has been discussed already in this thread; you can find the discussions by searching for the word &#8220;pattern&#8221; using your web browser&#8217;s search functionality while you have this thread open (not using the blog&#8217;s search feature).</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by nina</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2284</link>
		<dc:creator>nina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[why aren&#039;t patterns included in the k curriculum?]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Le nouveau elementary geometry progression est arrivée by Brian Cohen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/27/le-nouveau-elementary-geometry-progression-est-arrivee/#comment-2280</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 00:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,

Thanks for your help with the first question - I had misinterpreted that due to the second sentence of 4.G.2, so I am glad the Progression and this blog exist to clarify!

To be clear, classifying triangles by side lengths would be a &quot;natural extension,&quot; but not required by the standard (with exception to &quot;equiangular,&quot; for the reason you state)?

Brian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Thanks for your help with the first question &#8211; I had misinterpreted that due to the second sentence of 4.G.2, so I am glad the Progression and this blog exist to clarify!</p>
<p>To be clear, classifying triangles by side lengths would be a &#8220;natural extension,&#8221; but not required by the standard (with exception to &#8220;equiangular,&#8221; for the reason you state)?</p>
<p>Brian</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/27/le-nouveau-elementary-geometry-progression-est-arrivee/#comment-2279</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 00:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian, I think the second sentence is a specific instance of the first sentence that we want to make sure is included. As for your second question, students in Grades 2 and 3 have already been identifying figures on the basis of congruent side lengths and faces (among other bases). So it is a natural extension of that progression to look various sorts of triangles here, particularly since we are already looking at right triangles. Also, I suppose you could interpret &quot;angles of a specified size&quot; as including the statement &quot;all angles have the same size.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, I think the second sentence is a specific instance of the first sentence that we want to make sure is included. As for your second question, students in Grades 2 and 3 have already been identifying figures on the basis of congruent side lengths and faces (among other bases). So it is a natural extension of that progression to look various sorts of triangles here, particularly since we are already looking at right triangles. Also, I suppose you could interpret &#8220;angles of a specified size&#8221; as including the statement &#8220;all angles have the same size.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2278</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 00:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gee, not really sure what to say here except that we&#039;ll work on more illustrations! The geometry progression when it comes out should help as well. I think I need to have a better idea of your specific questions here, otherwise I&#039;ll just end up writing that part of the geometry progression, which I don&#039;t have time for at the moment.

As for density, I guess I would say the concept and the formula are almost identical; for example, knowing the concept of (average) population density entails knowing that you would calculate it by dividing the population in an area by the area. In some sense it doesn&#039;t matter whether the formula is given or not, because the student who knows how to make use of it won&#039;t need it anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, not really sure what to say here except that we&#8217;ll work on more illustrations! The geometry progression when it comes out should help as well. I think I need to have a better idea of your specific questions here, otherwise I&#8217;ll just end up writing that part of the geometry progression, which I don&#8217;t have time for at the moment.</p>
<p>As for density, I guess I would say the concept and the formula are almost identical; for example, knowing the concept of (average) population density entails knowing that you would calculate it by dividing the population in an area by the area. In some sense it doesn&#8217;t matter whether the formula is given or not, because the student who knows how to make use of it won&#8217;t need it anyway.</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2275</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill, we are having difficulty with the interpretation of G.M.G.1, 2, and 3 and the examples on illustrativemathematics.org are not very helpful. Can you provide a quick summary of each? And, are the students expected to know the formula for density or should that be given? Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, we are having difficulty with the interpretation of G.M.G.1, 2, and 3 and the examples on illustrativemathematics.org are not very helpful. Can you provide a quick summary of each? And, are the students expected to know the formula for density or should that be given? Thanks!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 00:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,

Question on 4.G.2:

The sentence &quot;Classify two-dimensional figures based on the presence of absence of... angles of a specified size&quot; leads me to believe that students need to be able to identify acute, right, and obtuse triangles.  However, the sentence immediately following it, &quot;Recognize right triangles as a category, and identify right triangles&quot; leads me to believe that students do not need to be able to recognize/identify acute or obtuse triangles, only right triangles.  The first paragraph of the grade 4 section of the Progression (p. 14) supports the first interpretation.  Is that the intent?  If so, what is the intent of the second sentence, which wouldn&#039;t seem to say anything that the first sentence doesn&#039;t?

The same paragraph of the progression interprets the same standard to also state that &quot;[Students] can use side length to classify triangles as equilateral, equiangular, isosceles, or scalene...&quot;  I cannot find a way to interpret this standard that would include that statement.  Is this actually &quot;required&quot; by the standard, or just a natural &quot;extension&quot; that is &quot;not forbidden&quot;?

Thanks,
Brian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Question on 4.G.2:</p>
<p>The sentence &#8220;Classify two-dimensional figures based on the presence of absence of&#8230; angles of a specified size&#8221; leads me to believe that students need to be able to identify acute, right, and obtuse triangles.  However, the sentence immediately following it, &#8220;Recognize right triangles as a category, and identify right triangles&#8221; leads me to believe that students do not need to be able to recognize/identify acute or obtuse triangles, only right triangles.  The first paragraph of the grade 4 section of the Progression (p. 14) supports the first interpretation.  Is that the intent?  If so, what is the intent of the second sentence, which wouldn&#8217;t seem to say anything that the first sentence doesn&#8217;t?</p>
<p>The same paragraph of the progression interprets the same standard to also state that &#8220;[Students] can use side length to classify triangles as equilateral, equiangular, isosceles, or scalene&#8230;&#8221;  I cannot find a way to interpret this standard that would include that statement.  Is this actually &#8220;required&#8221; by the standard, or just a natural &#8220;extension&#8221; that is &#8220;not forbidden&#8221;?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Brian</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Julie James</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2248</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Connecticut has done some work with creating units for grades K-8.  This may be helpful for you. There is a section on this page called Illustrated practices, units and pacing guides.

http://commoncore.greenwich.wikispaces.net/math+resources

Their work states that is was adapted from the Arizona Dept of Education

http://www.azed.gov/standards-practices/mathematics-standards/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Connecticut has done some work with creating units for grades K-8.  This may be helpful for you. There is a section on this page called Illustrated practices, units and pacing guides.</p>
<p><a href="http://commoncore.greenwich.wikispaces.net/math+resources" rel="nofollow">http://commoncore.greenwich.wikispaces.net/math+resources</a></p>
<p>Their work states that is was adapted from the Arizona Dept of Education</p>
<p><a href="http://www.azed.gov/standards-practices/mathematics-standards/" rel="nofollow">http://www.azed.gov/standards-practices/mathematics-standards/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Jennie Winters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennie Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In our county-wide meetings, multiple districts have collaborated to cluster standards together into a sequence of units of instruction, using the PARCC frameworks and the progression documents as a guide.  I can send them to you if you&#039;d like.  Email me at jwinters@lake.k12.il.us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In our county-wide meetings, multiple districts have collaborated to cluster standards together into a sequence of units of instruction, using the PARCC frameworks and the progression documents as a guide.  I can send them to you if you&#8217;d like.  Email me at <a href="mailto:jwinters@lake.k12.il.us">jwinters@lake.k12.il.us</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Frank</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2240</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has anyone published potential timelines for grades K-8?  I just produced my first draft of a timeline for 7th grade.  I would like to compare it to some others before I start using it in September.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone published potential timelines for grades K-8?  I just produced my first draft of a timeline for 7th grade.  I would like to compare it to some others before I start using it in September.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Le nouveau elementary geometry progression est arrivée by Maggie Hackett</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/27/le-nouveau-elementary-geometry-progression-est-arrivee/#comment-2228</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie Hackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 04:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wohoo!  Thanks Bill - You Rock!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wohoo!  Thanks Bill &#8211; You Rock!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by terehi</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-2214</link>
		<dc:creator>terehi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2012 03:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,
Thank you for the help. I found your answer to Susie H and modeling is stating to get clarified for me. I will study what I&#039;ve found.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
Thank you for the help. I found your answer to Susie H and modeling is stating to get clarified for me. I will study what I&#8217;ve found.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Mark</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2213</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 23:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[However, a number of states, including New York - http://www.p12.nysed.gov/ciai/common_core_standards/ and Massachusetts - http://www.doe.mass.edu/candi/commoncore/ have incorporated Pre-K into their states Common Core.  Good luck.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, a number of states, including New York &#8211; <a href="http://www.p12.nysed.gov/ciai/common_core_standards/" rel="nofollow">http://www.p12.nysed.gov/ciai/common_core_standards/</a> and Massachusetts &#8211; <a href="http://www.doe.mass.edu/candi/commoncore/" rel="nofollow">http://www.doe.mass.edu/candi/commoncore/</a> have incorporated Pre-K into their states Common Core.  Good luck.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2211</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are no pre-kindergarten standards in the Common Core.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no pre-kindergarten standards in the Common Core.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-2210</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Maria, go to  &lt;a href=&quot;http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/&quot; title=&quot;General questions about the Mathematics standards&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the thread on General Questions About the Mathematics Standards&lt;/a&gt;, and use your browser&#039;s &quot;Find&quot; or &quot;Search&quot; menu to look for the word &quot;modeling&quot; on that page. Don&#039;t use the search box at the top of the blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Maria, go to  <a href="http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/" title="General questions about the Mathematics standards" rel="nofollow">the thread on General Questions About the Mathematics Standards</a>, and use your browser&#8217;s &#8220;Find&#8221; or &#8220;Search&#8221; menu to look for the word &#8220;modeling&#8221; on that page. Don&#8217;t use the search box at the top of the blog.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Maria Hirsch</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-2207</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria Hirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 16:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, again,
I looked for the thread on modeling, but it took me to Task #4 Contest. I am concerned the definition of modeling because it seems that most people I speak to have their own perception.
I can see what modeling looks like at the high school level (there are many examples out there), but I&#039;m still confused as to how it would look at grades 3-5. Is a number line modeling? I can make an argument for it&#039;s use as a model, say for explaining or proving addition of fractions. I guess I need some examples of what modeling would look like at these grades.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, again,<br />
I looked for the thread on modeling, but it took me to Task #4 Contest. I am concerned the definition of modeling because it seems that most people I speak to have their own perception.<br />
I can see what modeling looks like at the high school level (there are many examples out there), but I&#8217;m still confused as to how it would look at grades 3-5. Is a number line modeling? I can make an argument for it&#8217;s use as a model, say for explaining or proving addition of fractions. I guess I need some examples of what modeling would look like at these grades.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Dawn Woods</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2206</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am looking for information or a link to pre-kindergarten math standards.  Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking for information or a link to pre-kindergarten math standards.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2204</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 08:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Beth, there is lots written on this blog about the standard algorithm for multiplication: try searching on the term &quot;standard algorithm&quot; in this thread, and in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/06/draft-of-progression-on-number-and-operations-in-base-ten/&quot; title=&quot;Draft of progression on Number and Operations in Base Ten&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thread on Number and Operations in Base Ten&lt;/a&gt;. For the division algorithm, you might also look in the progression document itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Beth, there is lots written on this blog about the standard algorithm for multiplication: try searching on the term &#8220;standard algorithm&#8221; in this thread, and in the <a href="http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/06/draft-of-progression-on-number-and-operations-in-base-ten/" title="Draft of progression on Number and Operations in Base Ten" rel="nofollow">thread on Number and Operations in Base Ten</a>. For the division algorithm, you might also look in the progression document itself.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2203</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Eric!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Eric!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2202</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We did try to avoid lists of required terms at specific grade levels, because of the danger that such lists start to occupy too much attention from teachers and assessment writers, so that worrying about vocabulary obscures work on the mathematics. Consider, for example
&lt;blockquote&gt;
6.G.1 Find the area of right triangles, other triangles, special quadrilaterals, and polygons by composing into rectangles or decomposing into triangles and other shapes; apply these techniques in the context of solving real-world and mathematical problems.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You might use examples of both concave and convex polygons to illustrate different ways of calculating the area, by either decomposing it or viewing it as obtained by subtracting an area from a larger figure. But you might not spend too much time on the terms themselves, and the standards do not require that students know them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We did try to avoid lists of required terms at specific grade levels, because of the danger that such lists start to occupy too much attention from teachers and assessment writers, so that worrying about vocabulary obscures work on the mathematics. Consider, for example</p>
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6.G.1 Find the area of right triangles, other triangles, special quadrilaterals, and polygons by composing into rectangles or decomposing into triangles and other shapes; apply these techniques in the context of solving real-world and mathematical problems.
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<p>You might use examples of both concave and convex polygons to illustrate different ways of calculating the area, by either decomposing it or viewing it as obtained by subtracting an area from a larger figure. But you might not spend too much time on the terms themselves, and the standards do not require that students know them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Number and Operations in Base Ten by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/06/draft-of-progression-on-number-and-operations-in-base-ten/#comment-2201</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t have a printer here in Korea, but I just tried printing this to pdf without any trouble, so maybe it&#039;s a printer dependent issue. Have you tried a different printer? Sorry, I don&#039;t know what else to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a printer here in Korea, but I just tried printing this to pdf without any trouble, so maybe it&#8217;s a printer dependent issue. Have you tried a different printer? Sorry, I don&#8217;t know what else to do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Expressions and Equations by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/25/draft-of-progressions-on-expressions-and-equations/#comment-2200</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are right that there is not much emphasis on solving inequalities in Grade 6. The main emphasis is on understanding what it means to be a solution to an inequality, and testing whether a number is a solution, as in 
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6.EE.5. Understand solving an equation or inequality as a process of answering a question: which values from a specified set, if any, make the equation or inequality true? Use substitution to determine whether a given number in a specified set makes an equation or inequality true.
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I could imagine a curriculum pursuing this as far as solving single step inequalities as you suggest, but that&#039;s not required by the standards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right that there is not much emphasis on solving inequalities in Grade 6. The main emphasis is on understanding what it means to be a solution to an inequality, and testing whether a number is a solution, as in </p>
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6.EE.5. Understand solving an equation or inequality as a process of answering a question: which values from a specified set, if any, make the equation or inequality true? Use substitution to determine whether a given number in a specified set makes an equation or inequality true.
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<p>I could imagine a curriculum pursuing this as far as solving single step inequalities as you suggest, but that&#8217;s not required by the standards.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-2199</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Maria, there is some discussion of modeling in the thread on general questions about the standards (the sticky post at the top of the blog). If you search on the term &quot;modeling&quot; you should find it. If this doesn&#039;t answer your question, please feel free to post again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Maria, there is some discussion of modeling in the thread on general questions about the standards (the sticky post at the top of the blog). If you search on the term &#8220;modeling&#8221; you should find it. If this doesn&#8217;t answer your question, please feel free to post again.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Phil Daro on learning mathematics through problem solving by Patience</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/05/21/phil-daro-on-learning-mathematics-through-problem-solving/#comment-2198</link>
		<dc:creator>Patience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 02:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Janice usually you can contact your county person (principal should know who) and they can unblock that one site once they see it is ok.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janice usually you can contact your county person (principal should know who) and they can unblock that one site once they see it is ok.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by The Standards Are Not The Curriculum &#124;</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-2194</link>
		<dc:creator>The Standards Are Not The Curriculum &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] then referenced an analogy from his blog in which the authors of the Common Core compared the use of standards to the shipment and handling [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Beth Cummings</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2187</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth Cummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just wondering what is the standard algorithm for multiplication and division and how is it going to be tested!!! Thanks a bunch of teachers in Arkansas at a workshop]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wondering what is the standard algorithm for multiplication and division and how is it going to be tested!!! Thanks a bunch of teachers in Arkansas at a workshop</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Eric Berkowitz</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2181</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Berkowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2012 20:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With help, I found two links that address my question, so I thought I&#039;d share them.  I don&#039;t think these provide complete answers, so I&#039;m still interested in any other advice / suggestions out there.

http://www.dpi.state.nc.us/docs/acre/standards/common-core-tools/unpacking/math/statistics-probability.pdf

http://commoncoretools.me/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ccss_progression_sp_hs_2012_04_21.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With help, I found two links that address my question, so I thought I&#8217;d share them.  I don&#8217;t think these provide complete answers, so I&#8217;m still interested in any other advice / suggestions out there.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dpi.state.nc.us/docs/acre/standards/common-core-tools/unpacking/math/statistics-probability.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.dpi.state.nc.us/docs/acre/standards/common-core-tools/unpacking/math/statistics-probability.pdf</a></p>
<p><a href="http://commoncoretools.me/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ccss_progression_sp_hs_2012_04_21.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://commoncoretools.me/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ccss_progression_sp_hs_2012_04_21.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Julie James</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2180</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2012 19:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In working with teachers through professional development, I have come to realize that there is confusion about regular and irregular polygons as well as how to describe concave and convex mathematically (beyond that concave &quot;caves in&quot;).  I don&#039;t see these terms in the CCSSM explicitly, but have told teachers that they fall under &quot;attributes&quot; as described in the geometry standards.

In these discussions, I have suggested that teachers refer to other standards within their grade level to determine what is appropriate for their students. For example, describing a polygon as &quot;regular&quot; would come after understanding what it means for sides to be congruent and for angles to be congruent.

At what level do you see these ideas being appropriate based on the standards?

Julie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In working with teachers through professional development, I have come to realize that there is confusion about regular and irregular polygons as well as how to describe concave and convex mathematically (beyond that concave &#8220;caves in&#8221;).  I don&#8217;t see these terms in the CCSSM explicitly, but have told teachers that they fall under &#8220;attributes&#8221; as described in the geometry standards.</p>
<p>In these discussions, I have suggested that teachers refer to other standards within their grade level to determine what is appropriate for their students. For example, describing a polygon as &#8220;regular&#8221; would come after understanding what it means for sides to be congruent and for angles to be congruent.</p>
<p>At what level do you see these ideas being appropriate based on the standards?</p>
<p>Julie</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Number and Operations in Base Ten by Nancy</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/06/draft-of-progression-on-number-and-operations-in-base-ten/#comment-2178</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2012 13:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just downloaded the file this morning again.  Although we can see the full 19 pages in preview the print command tells us that &quot;ERROR:  invalidfont&quot; and &quot;OFFENDING COMMAND:  definefont&quot;  http://commoncoretools.me/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/ccss_progression_nbt_2011_04_073_corrected2.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just downloaded the file this morning again.  Although we can see the full 19 pages in preview the print command tells us that &#8220;ERROR:  invalidfont&#8221; and &#8220;OFFENDING COMMAND:  definefont&#8221;  <a href="http://commoncoretools.me/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/ccss_progression_nbt_2011_04_073_corrected2.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://commoncoretools.me/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/ccss_progression_nbt_2011_04_073_corrected2.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Expressions and Equations by Peggy Britton</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/25/draft-of-progressions-on-expressions-and-equations/#comment-2168</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggy Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 21:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,

In Grade 6 of the EE progression document, under &quot;Reason about and solve one-variable equations and inequalities&quot;, very little is said about inequalities. The sentence &quot;In Grade 6 they start the systematic study of equations and inequalities and methods of solving them&quot; suggests that students might begin solving simple inequalities in Grade 6, such as inequalities of the form x + p &gt; q or px &gt; q for cases in which p, q, and x are all non-negative rational numbers. (This would parallel with the work done with equations (6.EE.7).) However, the only other mention of inequalities in Grade 6 of the EE progression document is in reference to inequalities of the form n &gt; 0 used to represent a domain for a real-world situation. Is the expectation that solving inequalities will not begin until Grade 7 with two-step inequalities?

Thanks,
Peggy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>In Grade 6 of the EE progression document, under &#8220;Reason about and solve one-variable equations and inequalities&#8221;, very little is said about inequalities. The sentence &#8220;In Grade 6 they start the systematic study of equations and inequalities and methods of solving them&#8221; suggests that students might begin solving simple inequalities in Grade 6, such as inequalities of the form x + p &gt; q or px &gt; q for cases in which p, q, and x are all non-negative rational numbers. (This would parallel with the work done with equations (6.EE.7).) However, the only other mention of inequalities in Grade 6 of the EE progression document is in reference to inequalities of the form n &gt; 0 used to represent a domain for a real-world situation. Is the expectation that solving inequalities will not begin until Grade 7 with two-step inequalities?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Peggy</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Eric Berkowitz</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2161</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Berkowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 01:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m trying to write curriculum that incorporates the Statistics standards S.IC.1 - S.IC.6 (Making Inferences and Justifying Conclusions).  I have looked in statistics texts that seem to have good information on this area, but I could use some help seeing what kind of depth is suggested.  If students were to be tested on this at some future date, for instance:
    - How much detail would they need?  
    - What kinds of questions would they be expected to answer?
Can anyone provide pointers in the right direction?  Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to write curriculum that incorporates the Statistics standards S.IC.1 &#8211; S.IC.6 (Making Inferences and Justifying Conclusions).  I have looked in statistics texts that seem to have good information on this area, but I could use some help seeing what kind of depth is suggested.  If students were to be tested on this at some future date, for instance:<br />
    &#8211; How much detail would they need?<br />
    &#8211; What kinds of questions would they be expected to answer?<br />
Can anyone provide pointers in the right direction?  Thank you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Maria Hirsch</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-2159</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria Hirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 21:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about at the elementary level? What does modeling look like there? I realize that there is &quot;modeling to do math&quot; and &quot;modeling to learn math&quot;. I think I&#039;ve got ahold of the second one, but am confused about the first one for elementary grades, say 3 - 5.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about at the elementary level? What does modeling look like there? I realize that there is &#8220;modeling to do math&#8221; and &#8220;modeling to learn math&#8221;. I think I&#8217;ve got ahold of the second one, but am confused about the first one for elementary grades, say 3 &#8211; 5.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Le nouveau elementary geometry progression est arrivée by Cathy Kessel</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/27/le-nouveau-elementary-geometry-progression-est-arrivee/#comment-2148</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Kessel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian and Bill, there&#039;s quite a bit of discussion about the meaning of &quot;defining attribute&quot; earlier in the Progression, beginning with p. 2. Part of the footnote on page 3 says: 

“Attributes” and “features” are used interchangeably to indicate any characteristic of a shape, including properties, and other defining characteristics (e.g., straight sides) and nondefining characteristics (e.g., “right-side up”).

Page 8 talks about: 
differentiate between geometrically defining attributes (e.g., “hexagons have six straight sides”) and nondefining attributes (e.g., color, overall size, or orientation).

Do these quotes help to clear things up?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian and Bill, there&#8217;s quite a bit of discussion about the meaning of &#8220;defining attribute&#8221; earlier in the Progression, beginning with p. 2. Part of the footnote on page 3 says: </p>
<p>“Attributes” and “features” are used interchangeably to indicate any characteristic of a shape, including properties, and other defining characteristics (e.g., straight sides) and nondefining characteristics (e.g., “right-side up”).</p>
<p>Page 8 talks about:<br />
differentiate between geometrically defining attributes (e.g., “hexagons have six straight sides”) and nondefining attributes (e.g., color, overall size, or orientation).</p>
<p>Do these quotes help to clear things up?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Le nouveau elementary geometry progression est arrivée by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/27/le-nouveau-elementary-geometry-progression-est-arrivee/#comment-2146</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 16:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian, I&#039;m not sure about this for two reasons. First, the obvious one, we don&#039;t have the time. Second, more seriously, I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s a great idea. I do understand the desire for clarity, but in the end I think there&#039;s no way around the sort of discussions we are having on this blog, where people discuss questions that arise from a close reading of the standards. Ultimate authority over how the standards are interpreted shouldn&#039;t come from me or the other lead writers or the progression authors, although of course all those people have some insights to contribute. It should come from discerning expert communities of teachers, mathematicians, and educators, such as the one that is emerging from this blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, I&#8217;m not sure about this for two reasons. First, the obvious one, we don&#8217;t have the time. Second, more seriously, I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s a great idea. I do understand the desire for clarity, but in the end I think there&#8217;s no way around the sort of discussions we are having on this blog, where people discuss questions that arise from a close reading of the standards. Ultimate authority over how the standards are interpreted shouldn&#8217;t come from me or the other lead writers or the progression authors, although of course all those people have some insights to contribute. It should come from discerning expert communities of teachers, mathematicians, and educators, such as the one that is emerging from this blog.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Number and Operations in Base Ten by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/06/draft-of-progression-on-number-and-operations-in-base-ten/#comment-2145</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 15:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where are you getting this terminology from? It&#039;s not in the progression document.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are you getting this terminology from? It&#8217;s not in the progression document.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Number and Operations in Base Ten by Dot</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/06/draft-of-progression-on-number-and-operations-in-base-ten/#comment-2144</link>
		<dc:creator>Dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 15:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would you please provide an explanation of the various types of tasks: Practice, scaffolding, constructing, and performance. Is there a site that goes in depth with an explanation of each?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you please provide an explanation of the various types of tasks: Practice, scaffolding, constructing, and performance. Is there a site that goes in depth with an explanation of each?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by callahanpatrick</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-2143</link>
		<dc:creator>callahanpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 15:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No specific projects have been created.  Rather the point is to build in days for projects where students use the mathematics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No specific projects have been created.  Rather the point is to build in days for projects where students use the mathematics.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Sandi Enochs</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-2142</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandi Enochs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 14:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In your suggested Scope and Sequence for the high school Common Core State Standards, you refer to 6 Projects. Do you have 6 specific projects in mind? Have they been created or are they just place holders?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your suggested Scope and Sequence for the high school Common Core State Standards, you refer to 6 Projects. Do you have 6 specific projects in mind? Have they been created or are they just place holders?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Le nouveau elementary geometry progression est arrivée by Brian Cohen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/27/le-nouveau-elementary-geometry-progression-est-arrivee/#comment-2141</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 13:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,

Thank you for your explanation.  This helps me recover a bit from the shock I suffered when reading the geometry progression - which quickly became filled with highlighting and question marks on statements that I though went beyond the grade-level standards.  

In a related response you left to a question in the Progression for SP, you mentioned what has sort of become your signature catchphrase – “that which is not mentioned in the standards is not thereby forbidden,” and added a new twist – “that which is mentioned in the progressions is not thereby required.”  Both are great and make perfect sense.  My concern is that, as a reader of the standards and of the Progressions, I can’t always discern for myself what is “required” and what is simply “not forbidden” without asking… which doesn’t lend itself to “common” understandings of the standards.

I know the people working on these Progressions are some of the busiest among us, but I would like to offer two possible ideas for embedding this clarity in future iterations of the Progressions.  Either:
• organize each grade level’s narrative into two sections:  1) required by the standards at this grade level, and  2) related to the standards at this grade level; or
• add those two categories as footnote tags and simply superscript a 1 or a 2 after each paragraph or sentence that needs to be clarified such that the field understands the intent and the scope of the particular standard.  

I realize this is easier said than done, but it is certainly a much more doable way of achieving the clarity sought by some of your frequent posters (ex., Lane, Turtle, Jessica, and me) to increase the likelihood that curriculum writers, test writers, and teachers share a “common” understanding of what needs to be taught at each grade.

Thanks for all of your time and support,
Brian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Thank you for your explanation.  This helps me recover a bit from the shock I suffered when reading the geometry progression &#8211; which quickly became filled with highlighting and question marks on statements that I though went beyond the grade-level standards.  </p>
<p>In a related response you left to a question in the Progression for SP, you mentioned what has sort of become your signature catchphrase – “that which is not mentioned in the standards is not thereby forbidden,” and added a new twist – “that which is mentioned in the progressions is not thereby required.”  Both are great and make perfect sense.  My concern is that, as a reader of the standards and of the Progressions, I can’t always discern for myself what is “required” and what is simply “not forbidden” without asking… which doesn’t lend itself to “common” understandings of the standards.</p>
<p>I know the people working on these Progressions are some of the busiest among us, but I would like to offer two possible ideas for embedding this clarity in future iterations of the Progressions.  Either:<br />
• organize each grade level’s narrative into two sections:  1) required by the standards at this grade level, and  2) related to the standards at this grade level; or<br />
• add those two categories as footnote tags and simply superscript a 1 or a 2 after each paragraph or sentence that needs to be clarified such that the field understands the intent and the scope of the particular standard.  </p>
<p>I realize this is easier said than done, but it is certainly a much more doable way of achieving the clarity sought by some of your frequent posters (ex., Lane, Turtle, Jessica, and me) to increase the likelihood that curriculum writers, test writers, and teachers share a “common” understanding of what needs to be taught at each grade.</p>
<p>Thanks for all of your time and support,<br />
Brian</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-2138</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 01:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ron, a few thoughts. First, the sequencing of the standards is not intended to dictate their sequence in the curriculum. There&#039;s a paragraph on page 5 that makes this point:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
These Standards do not dictate curriculum or teaching methods. For example, just because topic A appears before topic B in the standards for a given grade, it does not necessarily mean that topic A must be taught before topic B. A teacher might prefer to teach topic B before topic A, or might choose to highlight connections by teaching topic A and topic B at the same time. Or, a teacher might prefer to teach a topic of his or her own choosing that leads, as a byproduct, to students reaching the standards for topics A and B.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The progressions documents offer more guidance about sequencing, but even they don&#039;t get at how domains might be intertwined. For example, in elementary school it would make sense to treat the Operations and Algebra Thinking and the Number and Operations in Base Ten domains in parallel, catching the many connections between them, rather than in sequence. 

So, I don&#039;t have a simple answer to your question. Ultimately sequencing is a matter of curriculum design, which take time if done well. All I can say is that the progressions documents are designed to help in this endeavor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, a few thoughts. First, the sequencing of the standards is not intended to dictate their sequence in the curriculum. There&#8217;s a paragraph on page 5 that makes this point:</p>
<blockquote><p>
These Standards do not dictate curriculum or teaching methods. For example, just because topic A appears before topic B in the standards for a given grade, it does not necessarily mean that topic A must be taught before topic B. A teacher might prefer to teach topic B before topic A, or might choose to highlight connections by teaching topic A and topic B at the same time. Or, a teacher might prefer to teach a topic of his or her own choosing that leads, as a byproduct, to students reaching the standards for topics A and B.
</p></blockquote>
<p>The progressions documents offer more guidance about sequencing, but even they don&#8217;t get at how domains might be intertwined. For example, in elementary school it would make sense to treat the Operations and Algebra Thinking and the Number and Operations in Base Ten domains in parallel, catching the many connections between them, rather than in sequence. </p>
<p>So, I don&#8217;t have a simple answer to your question. Ultimately sequencing is a matter of curriculum design, which take time if done well. All I can say is that the progressions documents are designed to help in this endeavor.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Expressions and Equations by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/25/draft-of-progressions-on-expressions-and-equations/#comment-2137</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 01:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well caught, sir!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well caught, sir!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Expressions and Equations by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/25/draft-of-progressions-on-expressions-and-equations/#comment-2136</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 01:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian, your suggestion seems reasonable to me, although I can imagine using the nets to get the formula in Grade 6. But this is really a matter of curriculum design; it depends how much time is allowed, and how the curriculum materials want to handle the connections between EE and G in this grade level or the next. In the final analysis, I don&#039;t think the standards specify the level of detail you are at here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, your suggestion seems reasonable to me, although I can imagine using the nets to get the formula in Grade 6. But this is really a matter of curriculum design; it depends how much time is allowed, and how the curriculum materials want to handle the connections between EE and G in this grade level or the next. In the final analysis, I don&#8217;t think the standards specify the level of detail you are at here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression for Statistics and Probability, Grades 6–8 by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/12/26/progression-for-statistics-and-probability-grades-6-8/#comment-2135</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 01:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point, Brian, as usual. In some ways this is similar to the discussion we had about the geometry progression a couple of days ago. The progressions can be more expansive than the standards, but this should not be construed as a signal to add mindless rules to the assessments! I&#039;ve been saying &quot;that which is not mentioned in the standards is not thereby forbidden&quot;, but maybe I should start saying &quot;that which is mentioned in the progressions is not thereby required&quot; as well.

The standards describe the achievements we want for students. These are not limiting, but describe where time should be focused if it is short.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Brian, as usual. In some ways this is similar to the discussion we had about the geometry progression a couple of days ago. The progressions can be more expansive than the standards, but this should not be construed as a signal to add mindless rules to the assessments! I&#8217;ve been saying &#8220;that which is not mentioned in the standards is not thereby forbidden&#8221;, but maybe I should start saying &#8220;that which is mentioned in the progressions is not thereby required&#8221; as well.</p>
<p>The standards describe the achievements we want for students. These are not limiting, but describe where time should be focused if it is short.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Illustrative Mathematics Project by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/01/16/the-illustrative-mathematics-project/#comment-2134</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sandi, I posted that document but was not the author of it. I think if you ask this question in the same thread where the document was posted you might get an answer from one of the authors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandi, I posted that document but was not the author of it. I think if you ask this question in the same thread where the document was posted you might get an answer from one of the authors.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2133</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you use your browser to search for &quot;modeling&quot; in this thread you will find some discussion of this issue; let me know if it doesn&#039;t answer your question.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you use your browser to search for &#8220;modeling&#8221; in this thread you will find some discussion of this issue; let me know if it doesn&#8217;t answer your question.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Number and Operations in Base Ten by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/06/draft-of-progression-on-number-and-operations-in-base-ten/#comment-2132</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Try again now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try again now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Le nouveau elementary geometry progression est arrivée by Turtle</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/27/le-nouveau-elementary-geometry-progression-est-arrivee/#comment-2131</link>
		<dc:creator>Turtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 21:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;In practical terms, this means that curriculum materials for geometry might well have students engaging in some activities which are not mentioned in the standards, but not thereby forbidden.&quot;
My favorite quote for the day. Perfect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In practical terms, this means that curriculum materials for geometry might well have students engaging in some activities which are not mentioned in the standards, but not thereby forbidden.&#8221;<br />
My favorite quote for the day. Perfect.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Turtle</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2130</link>
		<dc:creator>Turtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 21:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Bill!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Bill!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2129</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 20:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think there&#039;s more to &quot;knowing&quot; than &quot;stating&quot;; you also have to understand what you are saying, be able to explain what the theorem is saying, and so on. But this does not include proving the theorem (which is quite advanced!).

Also, you have to be careful about counting roots, since a polynomial can have a double root. One way to state the theorem is that every non-constant polynomial has a root in the complex numbers. This turns out to be equivalent to saying that a polynomial of degree n has n complex roots (where doubles roots are counted as 2, triples roots as 3 and so on).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s more to &#8220;knowing&#8221; than &#8220;stating&#8221;; you also have to understand what you are saying, be able to explain what the theorem is saying, and so on. But this does not include proving the theorem (which is quite advanced!).</p>
<p>Also, you have to be careful about counting roots, since a polynomial can have a double root. One way to state the theorem is that every non-constant polynomial has a root in the complex numbers. This turns out to be equivalent to saying that a polynomial of degree n has n complex roots (where doubles roots are counted as 2, triples roots as 3 and so on).</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2127</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ll have to wait for the assessments to come out for the definitive answer to this, but notice the statement on page 57 of the standards:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
All standards without a (+) symbol should be in the common mathematics curriculum for all college and career ready students. Standards with a (+) symbol may also appear in courses intended for all students.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So there is a distinction between what might appear in courses for all students and what might appear on the assessment. My guess is that (+) standards will not show up on the assessments, but we will have to wait and see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll have to wait for the assessments to come out for the definitive answer to this, but notice the statement on page 57 of the standards:</p>
<blockquote><p>
All standards without a (+) symbol should be in the common mathematics curriculum for all college and career ready students. Standards with a (+) symbol may also appear in courses intended for all students.
</p></blockquote>
<p>So there is a distinction between what might appear in courses for all students and what might appear on the assessment. My guess is that (+) standards will not show up on the assessments, but we will have to wait and see.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2126</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fred, p and q are constants here. So, for example, you can use the method of completing the square to transform $latex x^2 - x - 1 = 0$ into $latex (x-\frac12)^2 = \frac54$ and then solve the equation by setting $latex x - \frac12$ equal to each of the square roots of $latex \frac54$. If you do this with literal constants in place of specific numbers, $latex ax^2 + bx + c = 0$, you can derive the quadratic formula.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred, p and q are constants here. So, for example, you can use the method of completing the square to transform <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=x%5E2+-+x+-+1+%3D+0&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="x^2 - x - 1 = 0" title="x^2 - x - 1 = 0" class="latex" /> into <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=%28x-%5Cfrac12%29%5E2+%3D+%5Cfrac54&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="(x-&#92;frac12)^2 = &#92;frac54" title="(x-&#92;frac12)^2 = &#92;frac54" class="latex" /> and then solve the equation by setting <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=x+-+%5Cfrac12&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="x - &#92;frac12" title="x - &#92;frac12" class="latex" /> equal to each of the square roots of <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=%5Cfrac54&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="&#92;frac54" title="&#92;frac54" class="latex" />. If you do this with literal constants in place of specific numbers, <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=ax%5E2+%2B+bx+%2B+c+%3D+0&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="ax^2 + bx + c = 0" title="ax^2 + bx + c = 0" class="latex" />, you can derive the quadratic formula.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2125</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christina, have you looked at the progressions documents, published on this blog? Go to the main page and click on the progressions category down on the right hand side. They are not exactly what you are looking for, because they don&#039;t say how to weave the different progressions together, but they might help some.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christina, have you looked at the progressions documents, published on this blog? Go to the main page and click on the progressions category down on the right hand side. They are not exactly what you are looking for, because they don&#8217;t say how to weave the different progressions together, but they might help some.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2124</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good points, Lane. It&#039;s a big job and a slow process, coming together around common standards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, Lane. It&#8217;s a big job and a slow process, coming together around common standards.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2123</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The examples are not intended to limit the standards to negative integers only. The standards do encompass all rational numbers. Since negative numbers are first introduced in Grade 6, it makes sense to start with negative integers for the sake of simplicity, but students should not finish Grade 6 without having seen other negative rational numbers. There is, however, a subtlety that doesn&#039;t get taken up until Grade 7, namely the fact that $latex -(p/q) = (-p)/q = p/(-q)$.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The examples are not intended to limit the standards to negative integers only. The standards do encompass all rational numbers. Since negative numbers are first introduced in Grade 6, it makes sense to start with negative integers for the sake of simplicity, but students should not finish Grade 6 without having seen other negative rational numbers. There is, however, a subtlety that doesn&#8217;t get taken up until Grade 7, namely the fact that <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=-%28p%2Fq%29+%3D+%28-p%29%2Fq+%3D+p%2F%28-q%29&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="-(p/q) = (-p)/q = p/(-q)" title="-(p/q) = (-p)/q = p/(-q)" class="latex" />.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2122</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jessica&#039;s answer is correct here. In general students in Grade 5 will be using parentheses only, because the convention about nesting that you describe is quite common, and it&#039;s quite possible that instructional materials at this level wouldn&#039;t even mention brackets and braces. However, the nesting order is only a convention, not a mathematical law; the North Carolina statement isn&#039;t quite right here. It&#039;s important to distinguish between mathematical laws (e.g. the commutative law) and conventions of notation (e.g. nesting of parentheses). Some conventions of notation are important enough that you want to insist on them in the classroom (e.g. order of operations). But I don&#039;t think correct nesting of parentheses falls into that category. The main point of the standard is to understand the structure of numerical expressions with grouping symbols.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jessica&#8217;s answer is correct here. In general students in Grade 5 will be using parentheses only, because the convention about nesting that you describe is quite common, and it&#8217;s quite possible that instructional materials at this level wouldn&#8217;t even mention brackets and braces. However, the nesting order is only a convention, not a mathematical law; the North Carolina statement isn&#8217;t quite right here. It&#8217;s important to distinguish between mathematical laws (e.g. the commutative law) and conventions of notation (e.g. nesting of parentheses). Some conventions of notation are important enough that you want to insist on them in the classroom (e.g. order of operations). But I don&#8217;t think correct nesting of parentheses falls into that category. The main point of the standard is to understand the structure of numerical expressions with grouping symbols.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Le nouveau elementary geometry progression est arrivée by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/27/le-nouveau-elementary-geometry-progression-est-arrivee/#comment-2120</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 01:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian, you are quite right that the gap between the standards and the progression is larger here than for the progressions that describe the main focus of K-5. The underlying issue here is the relationship between the standards and curriculum. This requires a much longer essay than I have time for, but here are a few thoughts. 

The progressions describes a lot of things that teachers might do in the classroom; the standards describe the key mathematical achievements that should result from this. For the core progressions in K–5 there&#039;s not much difference between the two, but for the progressions in geometry and in measurement and data the difference is bound to be greater, since the standards in those progressions were intentionally restricted to a thin stream in order to make room for the core focus. In practical terms, this means that curriculum materials for geometry might well have students engaging in some activities which are not mentioned in the standards, but not thereby forbidden. Talking about 7-sided figures might be such an activity. In some classes there will be time for this, in others there won&#039;t. Classes that don&#039;t have the time will not be penalized in assessments for focusing on the core progressions in number and operations.

For your question about attributes, I&#039;m going to ask Doug Clements to see if he can find the time to clarify (but he&#039;s busy, so don&#039;t hold your breath!).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, you are quite right that the gap between the standards and the progression is larger here than for the progressions that describe the main focus of K-5. The underlying issue here is the relationship between the standards and curriculum. This requires a much longer essay than I have time for, but here are a few thoughts. </p>
<p>The progressions describes a lot of things that teachers might do in the classroom; the standards describe the key mathematical achievements that should result from this. For the core progressions in K–5 there&#8217;s not much difference between the two, but for the progressions in geometry and in measurement and data the difference is bound to be greater, since the standards in those progressions were intentionally restricted to a thin stream in order to make room for the core focus. In practical terms, this means that curriculum materials for geometry might well have students engaging in some activities which are not mentioned in the standards, but not thereby forbidden. Talking about 7-sided figures might be such an activity. In some classes there will be time for this, in others there won&#8217;t. Classes that don&#8217;t have the time will not be penalized in assessments for focusing on the core progressions in number and operations.</p>
<p>For your question about attributes, I&#8217;m going to ask Doug Clements to see if he can find the time to clarify (but he&#8217;s busy, so don&#8217;t hold your breath!).</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by terehi</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2116</link>
		<dc:creator>terehi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 02:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello... recently at a meeting where we were looking at instructional materials to bridge CCSS implementation, we were having a discussion on the meaning of modeling. Modeling at the high school level is defined at the CCSS website, but my question is what does it look like at the elementary or middle school level? Do number lines count? How will we make sure that publishers are using the correct interpretation of Standard of Mathematical Practice #4?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello&#8230; recently at a meeting where we were looking at instructional materials to bridge CCSS implementation, we were having a discussion on the meaning of modeling. Modeling at the high school level is defined at the CCSS website, but my question is what does it look like at the elementary or middle school level? Do number lines count? How will we make sure that publishers are using the correct interpretation of Standard of Mathematical Practice #4?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Number and Operations in Base Ten by Kathleen Anderson</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/06/draft-of-progression-on-number-and-operations-in-base-ten/#comment-2115</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am also having trouble printing the pdf.  I get the half of the page with diagrams and pictures, but not the text itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also having trouble printing the pdf.  I get the half of the page with diagrams and pictures, but not the text itself.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Turtle</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2109</link>
		<dc:creator>Turtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s how I see it, too, Jessica. Thanks for the affirmation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s how I see it, too, Jessica. Thanks for the affirmation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Jessica McCreary</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2108</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica McCreary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been sitting here reading through this entire thread for the past hour trying to see if someone else asked this question already before I post it...finally at the end of this page I see it. :-)  I Have the same question and I am not clear whether there is even a point to addressing brackets and braces given the specific examples provided in the progression document.  It almost sounds like the brackets and braces would replace the parenthesis (since the word &quot;or&quot; is used in the standard) but that doesn&#039;t make sense as per Turtle&#039;s explanation.  With that being said, it is clear that this standard is addressing the big idea of students seeing the structures of and meaning behind the numerical expressions (MP7).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been sitting here reading through this entire thread for the past hour trying to see if someone else asked this question already before I post it&#8230;finally at the end of this page I see it. <img src='http://commoncoretools.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   I Have the same question and I am not clear whether there is even a point to addressing brackets and braces given the specific examples provided in the progression document.  It almost sounds like the brackets and braces would replace the parenthesis (since the word &#8220;or&#8221; is used in the standard) but that doesn&#8217;t make sense as per Turtle&#8217;s explanation.  With that being said, it is clear that this standard is addressing the big idea of students seeing the structures of and meaning behind the numerical expressions (MP7).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Le nouveau elementary geometry progression est arrivée by Jessica McCreary</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/27/le-nouveau-elementary-geometry-progression-est-arrivee/#comment-2107</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica McCreary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this!  This was perfect timing for me as well as I needed to work on the Geometry standards this week.

Also, while I was working on the Kindergarten standards yesterday, I have the same questions Brian has above.  Maybe we need to place these questions in the &quot;General Questions about the Mathematics Standards&quot; section?

Thanks, 
Jessica]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this!  This was perfect timing for me as well as I needed to work on the Geometry standards this week.</p>
<p>Also, while I was working on the Kindergarten standards yesterday, I have the same questions Brian has above.  Maybe we need to place these questions in the &#8220;General Questions about the Mathematics Standards&#8221; section?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Jessica</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jason Zimba&#8217;s &#8220;wiring diagram&#8221; by Jason Zimba</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/09/jason-zimbas-wiring-diagram/#comment-2106</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Zimba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Fred - some thoughts:

1) At the time, I did actually make a high school section of the diagram. It was based on an old guess that I&#039;d made about how high school courses might look based on CCSSM (n.b., only for the traditional sequence). That guess went beyond an analysis of &quot;which standards go into which course&quot;; it took the form of some coherent chunks of material derived from the expectations in the standards. As a result, the entities in the high school portion of the diagram had novel codes, like &quot;A1.2.4.1.&quot; That made interpreting the high school portion of the diagram pretty hard, so for that and other reasons I only gave K-8. If you&#039;re interested in the high school portion, you might want to contact Markus Iseli at UCLA, who has a copy of the high school portion of the diagram as well as a correspondence table between the codes in the diagram and the standards in CCSSM. I agree it would be interesting to see what the diagram shows as the &quot;roots&quot; of the high school standards in K-8, if somebody wants to chase that down and put it in a digestible form.  

2) I guess don&#039;t have much that I can add as to why some standards have those notes and others don&#039;t. It&#039;s just that in some cases, I perceived important &quot;way-stations&quot; that students might typically land on between the beginning of the grade and meeting the standard as written. Perhaps if these cases were extracted and put in their own list, generalities might emerge. For example, in standards that set expectations for fluency, it seemed prudent and natural to create way-stations along the way to fluency. Likewise for word problems, I made a way-station in Group A for easier types. So I suppose it is partly a progression of difficulty, and partly a signal that these are not the kinds of standards that are taught all at once, or met all at once. They are about sustained work. In other cases, it is just a matter of splitting out the key parts of &quot;composite standards&quot; (e.g., 3.MD.2) and putting first the parts first that seem logically or conceptually prior.

3) No significant reason for the difference. As you can imagine, making this diagram took some time.... As I moved across the grades from left to right, my visual and design conventions tended to evolve somewhat, and there wasn&#039;t always time to refresh the entire diagram. So there are some inconsistencies of representation here and there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fred &#8211; some thoughts:</p>
<p>1) At the time, I did actually make a high school section of the diagram. It was based on an old guess that I&#8217;d made about how high school courses might look based on CCSSM (n.b., only for the traditional sequence). That guess went beyond an analysis of &#8220;which standards go into which course&#8221;; it took the form of some coherent chunks of material derived from the expectations in the standards. As a result, the entities in the high school portion of the diagram had novel codes, like &#8220;A1.2.4.1.&#8221; That made interpreting the high school portion of the diagram pretty hard, so for that and other reasons I only gave K-8. If you&#8217;re interested in the high school portion, you might want to contact Markus Iseli at UCLA, who has a copy of the high school portion of the diagram as well as a correspondence table between the codes in the diagram and the standards in CCSSM. I agree it would be interesting to see what the diagram shows as the &#8220;roots&#8221; of the high school standards in K-8, if somebody wants to chase that down and put it in a digestible form.  </p>
<p>2) I guess don&#8217;t have much that I can add as to why some standards have those notes and others don&#8217;t. It&#8217;s just that in some cases, I perceived important &#8220;way-stations&#8221; that students might typically land on between the beginning of the grade and meeting the standard as written. Perhaps if these cases were extracted and put in their own list, generalities might emerge. For example, in standards that set expectations for fluency, it seemed prudent and natural to create way-stations along the way to fluency. Likewise for word problems, I made a way-station in Group A for easier types. So I suppose it is partly a progression of difficulty, and partly a signal that these are not the kinds of standards that are taught all at once, or met all at once. They are about sustained work. In other cases, it is just a matter of splitting out the key parts of &#8220;composite standards&#8221; (e.g., 3.MD.2) and putting first the parts first that seem logically or conceptually prior.</p>
<p>3) No significant reason for the difference. As you can imagine, making this diagram took some time&#8230;. As I moved across the grades from left to right, my visual and design conventions tended to evolve somewhat, and there wasn&#8217;t always time to refresh the entire diagram. So there are some inconsistencies of representation here and there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Illustrative Mathematics Project by Sandi Enochs</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/01/16/the-illustrative-mathematics-project/#comment-2105</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandi Enochs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,
On your suggested Scope and Sequence for the high school Common Core State Standards, you refer to 6 Projects. Do you have 6 specific projects in mind? Have they been created or are they just place holders?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
On your suggested Scope and Sequence for the high school Common Core State Standards, you refer to 6 Projects. Do you have 6 specific projects in mind? Have they been created or are they just place holders?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression for Statistics and Probability, Grades 6–8 by Brian Cohen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/12/26/progression-for-statistics-and-probability-grades-6-8/#comment-2104</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,

Another re-post of a lingering question:

Some of the box plots (bottom of p. 5 and middle of p. 6) include outliers dealt with by disconnecting those points from the whisker. Do sixth grade students need to learn the very arbitrary “1.5 times the IQR above the upper median” rule for determining whether a data point is far enough to be considered an outlier? 

Teaching this convention to sixth graders who are just being introduced to this sort of graph seems far too detailed and isolated from the larger focus of the data standards (and the focus of 6th grade, in general) to justify the time and confusion!

The standard itself does not seem to require nor forbid this, but including it in this Progression seems to say that this convention would be fair-game on grade 6 assessments.  Please let me know if that was the intent or not!  If it wasn&#039;t, can a note be included in the Progression stating &quot;the standards at grade 6 do not require nor forbid instruction focused on the &#039;1.5 times the IQR above the upper median&#039; rule for determining outliers. This should not be a target on assessments.&quot;  Without a note like that, teachers will have to spend time, which should be focused on the RP and EE standards instead, teaching this convention to mastery just in case it is ever tested. 

Thanks,
Brian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Another re-post of a lingering question:</p>
<p>Some of the box plots (bottom of p. 5 and middle of p. 6) include outliers dealt with by disconnecting those points from the whisker. Do sixth grade students need to learn the very arbitrary “1.5 times the IQR above the upper median” rule for determining whether a data point is far enough to be considered an outlier? </p>
<p>Teaching this convention to sixth graders who are just being introduced to this sort of graph seems far too detailed and isolated from the larger focus of the data standards (and the focus of 6th grade, in general) to justify the time and confusion!</p>
<p>The standard itself does not seem to require nor forbid this, but including it in this Progression seems to say that this convention would be fair-game on grade 6 assessments.  Please let me know if that was the intent or not!  If it wasn&#8217;t, can a note be included in the Progression stating &#8220;the standards at grade 6 do not require nor forbid instruction focused on the &#8217;1.5 times the IQR above the upper median&#8217; rule for determining outliers. This should not be a target on assessments.&#8221;  Without a note like that, teachers will have to spend time, which should be focused on the RP and EE standards instead, teaching this convention to mastery just in case it is ever tested. </p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Brian</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Expressions and Equations by Brian Cohen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/25/draft-of-progressions-on-expressions-and-equations/#comment-2103</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,

I&#039;m resubmitting an old question that went unanswered, but came back up during curriculum work:

On p. 6 of this progression, the formula for the surface area of cubes is used to illustrate 6.EE.2 (Write, read, and evaluate expressions in which letters stand for numbers).  Am I wrong to interpret that grade 6 work with surface area is limited to using nets (6.G.4) and grade 7 may take it to the level of algebraic generalization (7.G.6)?

Thanks,
Brian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m resubmitting an old question that went unanswered, but came back up during curriculum work:</p>
<p>On p. 6 of this progression, the formula for the surface area of cubes is used to illustrate 6.EE.2 (Write, read, and evaluate expressions in which letters stand for numbers).  Am I wrong to interpret that grade 6 work with surface area is limited to using nets (6.G.4) and grade 7 may take it to the level of algebraic generalization (7.G.6)?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Brian</p>
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		<title>Comment on Le nouveau elementary geometry progression est arrivée by Brian Cohen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/27/le-nouveau-elementary-geometry-progression-est-arrivee/#comment-2090</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 11:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,

First - THANK YOU to you and the whole team who worked to put this together for us!

Here&#039;s the first major question this progression has raised for me and my understanding of the standards:  

&quot;Students learn to name and describe the defining attributes of categories of two-dimensional shapes, including circles, triangles, squares, rectangles, rhombuses, trapezoids, and the general category of quadrilateral. They describe pentagons, hexagons, septagons, octagons, and other polygons by the number of sides, for example, describing a septagon as either a “seven-gon” or simply “seven-sided shape” (MP2).2.G.1&quot;  (page 10, first paragraph).

This description really expands the shapes listed in the standard itself (triangles, quadrilaterals, pentagons, hexagons, and cubes).  Those shapes are all families named specifically by their  numer of sides (of faces for a cube)... and the list does not include &quot;septagons, octagons, and other polygons by the number of sides,&quot; though those at least seem to follow what I thought the intent of the standard to be.  

More problematic than this slight expansion of the standard is the preceding sentence that now asks students to &quot;describe the defining attributes of categories of two-dimensional shapes, including circles, triangles, squares, rectangles, rhombuses, trapezoids, and the general category of quadrilateral.&quot;  This MUST be an accident?  That has to be reserved for 4.G.2 and 5.G.3 &amp; 4, right?  Second grade students haven&#039;t yet learned anything about about angles or parallel in order to be able to &quot;describe the defining attributes&quot;!  And the defining attributes of circles?!  Possible with sixth graders... but the CCSS doesn&#039;t even deal with circles until 7th grade.

Does this paragraph in the Progression accurately describe the expectations around 2.G.1, or was this paragraph misplaced?

Thanks,
Brian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>First &#8211; THANK YOU to you and the whole team who worked to put this together for us!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the first major question this progression has raised for me and my understanding of the standards:  </p>
<p>&#8220;Students learn to name and describe the defining attributes of categories of two-dimensional shapes, including circles, triangles, squares, rectangles, rhombuses, trapezoids, and the general category of quadrilateral. They describe pentagons, hexagons, septagons, octagons, and other polygons by the number of sides, for example, describing a septagon as either a “seven-gon” or simply “seven-sided shape” (MP2).2.G.1&#8243;  (page 10, first paragraph).</p>
<p>This description really expands the shapes listed in the standard itself (triangles, quadrilaterals, pentagons, hexagons, and cubes).  Those shapes are all families named specifically by their  numer of sides (of faces for a cube)&#8230; and the list does not include &#8220;septagons, octagons, and other polygons by the number of sides,&#8221; though those at least seem to follow what I thought the intent of the standard to be.  </p>
<p>More problematic than this slight expansion of the standard is the preceding sentence that now asks students to &#8220;describe the defining attributes of categories of two-dimensional shapes, including circles, triangles, squares, rectangles, rhombuses, trapezoids, and the general category of quadrilateral.&#8221;  This MUST be an accident?  That has to be reserved for 4.G.2 and 5.G.3 &amp; 4, right?  Second grade students haven&#8217;t yet learned anything about about angles or parallel in order to be able to &#8220;describe the defining attributes&#8221;!  And the defining attributes of circles?!  Possible with sixth graders&#8230; but the CCSS doesn&#8217;t even deal with circles until 7th grade.</p>
<p>Does this paragraph in the Progression accurately describe the expectations around 2.G.1, or was this paragraph misplaced?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Brian</p>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Altieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 19:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought it would be in French!  Thanks for the English version!  

This week I am teaching a Grade 3 - 5 CCSSM course, and Geometry and Measurement will be the focus on Friday, so your timing is impeccable.

Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it would be in French!  Thanks for the English version!  </p>
<p>This week I am teaching a Grade 3 &#8211; 5 CCSSM course, and Geometry and Measurement will be the focus on Friday, so your timing is impeccable.</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Fred Hollingshead</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2054</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Hollingshead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 02:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another specific standard question for you regarding N-CN.9. (+): Know the Fundamental Theorem of Algebra; show that it is true for quadratic polynomials.

Could you share your thoughts on the expectation of this standard?  To &quot;know&quot; the theorem, is that to simply be able to state it?  I have seen it written slightly differently - but is it too simplistic to know that a polynomial has the same number of roots as its degree?  And what would constitute &quot;showing&quot; that it is true for quadratic polynomials?  Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another specific standard question for you regarding N-CN.9. (+): Know the Fundamental Theorem of Algebra; show that it is true for quadratic polynomials.</p>
<p>Could you share your thoughts on the expectation of this standard?  To &#8220;know&#8221; the theorem, is that to simply be able to state it?  I have seen it written slightly differently &#8211; but is it too simplistic to know that a polynomial has the same number of roots as its degree?  And what would constitute &#8220;showing&#8221; that it is true for quadratic polynomials?  Thanks!</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2053</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Hollingshead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 01:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the Common Core Standards App for iOS, the developers included a note on all of the (+) denoted standards that says:  &quot;(+) standards are included to increase coherence but are not necessarily expected to be addressed on high stakes assessments.&quot;  Is this an official stance from either your group or SBAC/PARCC?  I cannot find that statement anywhere else.  Do you suppose there is some amount of guessing involved?  

I have read the interpretation of the (+) symbol in the actual standards document, but of course, assessments are not addressed there.  My real question centers on the inclusion of some (+) standards in the Pathways (six of them by my count).  This is a bit ambiguous, as they seem to be standards for both all students and for students preparing for advanced topics (doesn&#039;t &quot;all students&quot; imply that already?).  Thus, if they are for all students, wouldn&#039;t it stand to reason that they could potentially be included on a high stakes assessment and the app&#039;s note is misleading?  

I know you have often directed questions about resources to the creators of said resources.  So, perhaps I should ask instead for you to comment on your own beliefs/insights about the (+) which are included in the Pathways and the possibility that all students could possibly be assessed on these &quot;advanced&quot; topics.  Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Common Core Standards App for iOS, the developers included a note on all of the (+) denoted standards that says:  &#8220;(+) standards are included to increase coherence but are not necessarily expected to be addressed on high stakes assessments.&#8221;  Is this an official stance from either your group or SBAC/PARCC?  I cannot find that statement anywhere else.  Do you suppose there is some amount of guessing involved?  </p>
<p>I have read the interpretation of the (+) symbol in the actual standards document, but of course, assessments are not addressed there.  My real question centers on the inclusion of some (+) standards in the Pathways (six of them by my count).  This is a bit ambiguous, as they seem to be standards for both all students and for students preparing for advanced topics (doesn&#8217;t &#8220;all students&#8221; imply that already?).  Thus, if they are for all students, wouldn&#8217;t it stand to reason that they could potentially be included on a high stakes assessment and the app&#8217;s note is misleading?  </p>
<p>I know you have often directed questions about resources to the creators of said resources.  So, perhaps I should ask instead for you to comment on your own beliefs/insights about the (+) which are included in the Pathways and the possibility that all students could possibly be assessed on these &#8220;advanced&#8221; topics.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jason Zimba&#8217;s &#8220;wiring diagram&#8221; by Fred Hollingshead</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/09/jason-zimbas-wiring-diagram/#comment-2052</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Hollingshead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 01:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jason, Sorry for the duplicate questions - I sent these via email through your blog as well.  But I see you are actively answering questions here, so here goes:

Most versions of your diagram I have seen end at 8th grade.  But I am recalling seeing one version that &quot;ended&quot; at 8th grade, but had the beginning of the &quot;next page&quot; and I thought I could see what appeared to be a high school section of the chart.  I am very interested in your take on the 9-12 standards and how you see them connecting to the K-8 standards.  Is this something you would be willing to share as well?

Additionally, a few standards have a note above them.  Could you share your rationale as to why it was important enough to include some small detail at times?  Why those standards in particular?  

And finally, the K and 8th grade standards have a stand-alone standard not connected to anything, while the 3rd grade standards have a &quot;Not shown: 3.MD:1&quot; footnote rather than including it similar to K and 8th.  Is there any significant reason for the difference?

Thanks for your time.
Fred]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, Sorry for the duplicate questions &#8211; I sent these via email through your blog as well.  But I see you are actively answering questions here, so here goes:</p>
<p>Most versions of your diagram I have seen end at 8th grade.  But I am recalling seeing one version that &#8220;ended&#8221; at 8th grade, but had the beginning of the &#8220;next page&#8221; and I thought I could see what appeared to be a high school section of the chart.  I am very interested in your take on the 9-12 standards and how you see them connecting to the K-8 standards.  Is this something you would be willing to share as well?</p>
<p>Additionally, a few standards have a note above them.  Could you share your rationale as to why it was important enough to include some small detail at times?  Why those standards in particular?  </p>
<p>And finally, the K and 8th grade standards have a stand-alone standard not connected to anything, while the 3rd grade standards have a &#8220;Not shown: 3.MD:1&#8243; footnote rather than including it similar to K and 8th.  Is there any significant reason for the difference?</p>
<p>Thanks for your time.<br />
Fred</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2051</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Hollingshead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 01:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill, 

Would you elaborate more on A-REI.4a, specifically, on what would be expected to derive the quadratic formula from this form (x – p)^2 = q.  In Appendix A, this standard is included in the Integrated Pathway, Math II, Unit 3 (probably 1st semester).  Perhaps you could offer an example assessment question/activity that would get to the heart of this standard?  Are p and q to be considered variables or constants?  Any help you can give is greatly appreciated!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, </p>
<p>Would you elaborate more on A-REI.4a, specifically, on what would be expected to derive the quadratic formula from this form (x – p)^2 = q.  In Appendix A, this standard is included in the Integrated Pathway, Math II, Unit 3 (probably 1st semester).  Perhaps you could offer an example assessment question/activity that would get to the heart of this standard?  Are p and q to be considered variables or constants?  Any help you can give is greatly appreciated!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Shane Colby</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2048</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Colby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 23:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am very interested in the answer to Patrick&#039;s question:
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Patrick says:
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One of ther question that I would have is… has anyone taken a poll of the CC states to see which states have adopted the Traditional Model at the HS level vs. the Integrated approach? This could be useful as we begin to share information/resources, etc. Thank you.
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I&#039;m a teacher at a boarding school in Utah, and many of our students come from California. Utah is going with the integrated model for its high school math. In California, at what level is the &quot;integrated vs traditional model&quot; decision made? I mean, will I have students next year from California who were taking &quot;Integrated Math 9&quot; and others of the same grade taking traditional &quot;Algebra One?&quot;
I think the integrated model is less-adopted across the nation. I surmise this because of how many Utah entities (the State, a few districts, and a few schools) are currently actually writing their own online textbooks just for &quot;Secondary Math I (i.e., Integrated Math 9).&quot;]]></description>
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Patrick says:<br />
April 19, 2012 at 9:16 am<br />
One of ther question that I would have is… has anyone taken a poll of the CC states to see which states have adopted the Traditional Model at the HS level vs. the Integrated approach? This could be useful as we begin to share information/resources, etc. Thank you.<br />
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I&#8217;m a teacher at a boarding school in Utah, and many of our students come from California. Utah is going with the integrated model for its high school math. In California, at what level is the &#8220;integrated vs traditional model&#8221; decision made? I mean, will I have students next year from California who were taking &#8220;Integrated Math 9&#8243; and others of the same grade taking traditional &#8220;Algebra One?&#8221;<br />
I think the integrated model is less-adopted across the nation. I surmise this because of how many Utah entities (the State, a few districts, and a few schools) are currently actually writing their own online textbooks just for &#8220;Secondary Math I (i.e., Integrated Math 9).&#8221;</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-2046</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Coley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. McCallum,

Help me to understand how much latitude instructors should take with the sequence of the CCSS standards.  I&#039;m in NC and we are &quot;rolling out&quot; these standards with the so-called Essential Standards in other subject areas.  I am not a mathematician or even a teacher of math.  However, as an instructional leader (principal), I am endeavoring  to understand as much as I can about the standards. (And math was my favorite subject in school)

For years I&#039;ve have believed that we attempted to cover too many topics within our math curricula.  When I read William Schmidt&#039;s paper, A Coherent Curriculum I was relieved to find out that people a lot more learned than I saw what I considered to be part of the problem.

Some of the progressions are obvious, but some are not.

Fortunately, NC has developed some &quot;unpacking&quot; documents which are helpful in preparation for implementation.  Help me with understanding what should and should not be done with these standards where the importance of sequence may not be so obvious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. McCallum,</p>
<p>Help me to understand how much latitude instructors should take with the sequence of the CCSS standards.  I&#8217;m in NC and we are &#8220;rolling out&#8221; these standards with the so-called Essential Standards in other subject areas.  I am not a mathematician or even a teacher of math.  However, as an instructional leader (principal), I am endeavoring  to understand as much as I can about the standards. (And math was my favorite subject in school)</p>
<p>For years I&#8217;ve have believed that we attempted to cover too many topics within our math curricula.  When I read William Schmidt&#8217;s paper, A Coherent Curriculum I was relieved to find out that people a lot more learned than I saw what I considered to be part of the problem.</p>
<p>Some of the progressions are obvious, but some are not.</p>
<p>Fortunately, NC has developed some &#8220;unpacking&#8221; documents which are helpful in preparation for implementation.  Help me with understanding what should and should not be done with these standards where the importance of sequence may not be so obvious.</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/25/draft-of-progressions-on-expressions-and-equations/#comment-2045</link>
		<dc:creator>Typo Police</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the bottom right side of page 7, in the table next to the first red dot, the value under 4 should be 1.76 instead of 1.75.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Christina</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2041</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I teach 5th grade math in Ohio and am having trouble finding a sequence to use with the common core.  Does anyone know where I could locate one?  Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I teach 5th grade math in Ohio and am having trouble finding a sequence to use with the common core.  Does anyone know where I could locate one?  Thank you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jason Zimba&#8217;s &#8220;wiring diagram&#8221; by Jason Zimba</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/09/jason-zimbas-wiring-diagram/#comment-2038</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Zimba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No. There are probably some patterns, but no fixed rule of that sort underlies the groupings. 

For example, one can see that the standards belonging to major clusters often exhibit long or complex chains of arrows in the diagram, and this would tend to push the beginnings of those chains all the way back into Group A. And the endpoints of those chains are also going to belong to major clusters, so major work will often stretch into Group C as well. Meanwhile, additional work often lacks those long or complex chains of arrows, so it might not end up in Group A very often, or maybe even Group B. So these circumstances might lead to some patterns, but as I say, there wasn&#039;t any mechanistic rule determining these things in the diagram.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. There are probably some patterns, but no fixed rule of that sort underlies the groupings. </p>
<p>For example, one can see that the standards belonging to major clusters often exhibit long or complex chains of arrows in the diagram, and this would tend to push the beginnings of those chains all the way back into Group A. And the endpoints of those chains are also going to belong to major clusters, so major work will often stretch into Group C as well. Meanwhile, additional work often lacks those long or complex chains of arrows, so it might not end up in Group A very often, or maybe even Group B. So these circumstances might lead to some patterns, but as I say, there wasn&#8217;t any mechanistic rule determining these things in the diagram.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2035</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I share this concern over interpretations.  The Core isn&#039;t common if there is widespread misinterpretation...and clearly there is. At this time, to understand the Standards, I think one must also read the progressions and these comments...and I&#039;m still not sure that guarantees clarity.   I would like to see a tech writer take (for example) Progressions:  6-7 Ratios and Proportional Relationships and have a 6th grade teacher tell them what they think it says. If the interpretation does not square with the intent, edit.  When the tech writer explains a standard such that 3-4 random 6th grade teachers can correctly interpret the meaning, that should clear up much of the confusion.  Sure, it&#039;s expensive and time consuming to develop such documentation, but textbook publishers and State authorities are generating volumes of conflicting documentation.  The longer we take to generate clear official explanations, the more expensive it will be to clean up misinterpretations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I share this concern over interpretations.  The Core isn&#8217;t common if there is widespread misinterpretation&#8230;and clearly there is. At this time, to understand the Standards, I think one must also read the progressions and these comments&#8230;and I&#8217;m still not sure that guarantees clarity.   I would like to see a tech writer take (for example) Progressions:  6-7 Ratios and Proportional Relationships and have a 6th grade teacher tell them what they think it says. If the interpretation does not square with the intent, edit.  When the tech writer explains a standard such that 3-4 random 6th grade teachers can correctly interpret the meaning, that should clear up much of the confusion.  Sure, it&#8217;s expensive and time consuming to develop such documentation, but textbook publishers and State authorities are generating volumes of conflicting documentation.  The longer we take to generate clear official explanations, the more expensive it will be to clean up misinterpretations.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Ginger B</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2034</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginger B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is a good lead in to my question about 7.EE.1. Is the use of the term rational coefficient meant to keep from limiting students to working only with integers or was it a push to working with negative and positive fractions and mixed numbers exclusively? NY State Education Dept says that &quot;the intent of 7.EE.1 is being aware of the property used to factor a linear expression with rational coefficients, not just on the ability to factor a linear expression.&quot;  The sample question they give is &quot; Which expression is equivalent to (4/3)x + 4 2/3?&quot;   I think they&#039;re interpreting rational coefficients to mean rational coefficients that are not integers.  Was that truly the original &quot;intent&quot;?

After reading earlier posts about &quot;simplifying&quot; and the general form for addition of fractions, I&#039;m now wondering if &quot;factoring&quot; would also be driven by context. The correct multiple choice response to that question has kids factor using the GCF of 2/3, but 1/3(4x + 14)  or 2((2/3)x + 2 1/3) would be factors of the expression too.  Then I began to think about the language being used in the question versus the language being used in the rationale. Which expression is equivalent doesn&#039;t really ask students to factor.  They can find the correct answer by applying the distributive property to each of the answers looking for the one that matches. I guess if I&#039;m doing my job right and helping kids to see things in context, then my students would understand equivalent and be able to use an appropriate strategy.  I think I was trying to factor it because I saw that all the answers were in the form a(bx + c) and I was programmed to find the GCF.

New question... Is 7.EE.1 a call for students to be flexible in their thinking?  If the item writers weren&#039;t so focused on &quot;factoring&quot; could that question have been changed to:
Which expression is not equivalent to (4/3)x + 4 2/3?
A   (4/3)x + 4 + 2/3
B   (4/3)x + 2(2 1/3)
C   (4/3)(x + 2)
D   (2/3)(2x + 7)
which would assess student&#039;s ability to add, subtract, multiply, factor and/or expand a linear expression?

I&#039;m very concerned though about the way that teachers across the country are going to be interpreting each standard and/or reacting to other&#039;s (State Education Departments...) interpretations.  The progression documents are helpful, but when State Ed contradicts the progression document, what do you do?  I&#039;ve been thinking and reacting to this one question for a while and I stumbled across this thread which helped me to process it further.  I&#039;m overwhelmed to the point of shutdown by the prospect of writing a years worth of curriculum this summer and feel as though I don&#039;t have enough coherent resources to help me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a good lead in to my question about 7.EE.1. Is the use of the term rational coefficient meant to keep from limiting students to working only with integers or was it a push to working with negative and positive fractions and mixed numbers exclusively? NY State Education Dept says that &#8220;the intent of 7.EE.1 is being aware of the property used to factor a linear expression with rational coefficients, not just on the ability to factor a linear expression.&#8221;  The sample question they give is &#8221; Which expression is equivalent to (4/3)x + 4 2/3?&#8221;   I think they&#8217;re interpreting rational coefficients to mean rational coefficients that are not integers.  Was that truly the original &#8220;intent&#8221;?</p>
<p>After reading earlier posts about &#8220;simplifying&#8221; and the general form for addition of fractions, I&#8217;m now wondering if &#8220;factoring&#8221; would also be driven by context. The correct multiple choice response to that question has kids factor using the GCF of 2/3, but 1/3(4x + 14)  or 2((2/3)x + 2 1/3) would be factors of the expression too.  Then I began to think about the language being used in the question versus the language being used in the rationale. Which expression is equivalent doesn&#8217;t really ask students to factor.  They can find the correct answer by applying the distributive property to each of the answers looking for the one that matches. I guess if I&#8217;m doing my job right and helping kids to see things in context, then my students would understand equivalent and be able to use an appropriate strategy.  I think I was trying to factor it because I saw that all the answers were in the form a(bx + c) and I was programmed to find the GCF.</p>
<p>New question&#8230; Is 7.EE.1 a call for students to be flexible in their thinking?  If the item writers weren&#8217;t so focused on &#8220;factoring&#8221; could that question have been changed to:<br />
Which expression is not equivalent to (4/3)x + 4 2/3?<br />
A   (4/3)x + 4 + 2/3<br />
B   (4/3)x + 2(2 1/3)<br />
C   (4/3)(x + 2)<br />
D   (2/3)(2x + 7)<br />
which would assess student&#8217;s ability to add, subtract, multiply, factor and/or expand a linear expression?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very concerned though about the way that teachers across the country are going to be interpreting each standard and/or reacting to other&#8217;s (State Education Departments&#8230;) interpretations.  The progression documents are helpful, but when State Ed contradicts the progression document, what do you do?  I&#8217;ve been thinking and reacting to this one question for a while and I stumbled across this thread which helped me to process it further.  I&#8217;m overwhelmed to the point of shutdown by the prospect of writing a years worth of curriculum this summer and feel as though I don&#8217;t have enough coherent resources to help me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jason Zimba&#8217;s &#8220;wiring diagram&#8221; by Marca</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/09/jason-zimbas-wiring-diagram/#comment-2024</link>
		<dc:creator>Marca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 22:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it correct to assume that A, B, and C may reference primary standards, supporting, and such?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it correct to assume that A, B, and C may reference primary standards, supporting, and such?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The data part of the Measurement and Data Progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/06/20/the-data-part-of-the-measurement-and-data-progression/#comment-2023</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 21:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m afraid not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid not.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft high school Statistics and Probability progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/21/draft-high-school-statistics-and-probability-progression/#comment-2022</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 20:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See if it works now. (Also, you might want to update your pdf reader to the latest version, the original file works with those.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See if it works now. (Also, you might want to update your pdf reader to the latest version, the original file works with those.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on The data part of the Measurement and Data Progression by Mary Ball</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/06/20/the-data-part-of-the-measurement-and-data-progression/#comment-2020</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 15:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is the draft of the Data Part of the Measurement and Data Progression available as a WORD file?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the draft of the Data Part of the Measurement and Data Progression available as a WORD file?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft high school Statistics and Probability progression by qsareweirdos</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/21/draft-high-school-statistics-and-probability-progression/#comment-2016</link>
		<dc:creator>qsareweirdos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 21:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the end of paragraph 2: &quot;Students should see that the standard deviation is the appropriate measure of spread for data distributions that are approximately normal in shape, as the standard deviation then has a clear interpretation related to relative frequency.&quot;

Can&#039;t you get a clear interpretation of relative frequency from (nearly) any measure of spread and any known distribution? For example, with a uniform distribution, you can tell the fraction of the cases that are within 1 standard deviation of the mean. With a normal distribution, you can tell the fraction of cases that are within 1 MAD of the mean.
qsareweirdos = Ken]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of paragraph 2: &#8220;Students should see that the standard deviation is the appropriate measure of spread for data distributions that are approximately normal in shape, as the standard deviation then has a clear interpretation related to relative frequency.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t you get a clear interpretation of relative frequency from (nearly) any measure of spread and any known distribution? For example, with a uniform distribution, you can tell the fraction of the cases that are within 1 standard deviation of the mean. With a normal distribution, you can tell the fraction of cases that are within 1 MAD of the mean.<br />
qsareweirdos = Ken</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft high school Statistics and Probability progression by Heidi Bromley</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/21/draft-high-school-statistics-and-probability-progression/#comment-2015</link>
		<dc:creator>Heidi Bromley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 18:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello-- When I download, I don&#039;t get any graphics until the end.  Is anyone else having this problem?  The text is still very informative and valuable, but I would deeply appreciate the illustrations!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello&#8211; When I download, I don&#8217;t get any graphics until the end.  Is anyone else having this problem?  The text is still very informative and valuable, but I would deeply appreciate the illustrations!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by callahanpatrick</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-2009</link>
		<dc:creator>callahanpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The modeling units would be similar to some of the extended assessments from SBAC.  They are meant to connect and draw from multiple units of content.
Projects are where students USE and DO mathematics to create, build, develop something that hopefully necessitates the content.   For example, building catapults to analyze projectile motion and quadratic functions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The modeling units would be similar to some of the extended assessments from SBAC.  They are meant to connect and draw from multiple units of content.<br />
Projects are where students USE and DO mathematics to create, build, develop something that hopefully necessitates the content.   For example, building catapults to analyze projectile motion and quadratic functions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Mary</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-2008</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can someone please clarify modeling units versus projects and what that might look like?  My undertanding is that modeling units would be similar to the SBAC sample assessments.  The projects might be something that students create based on their deep undertanding of the units.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please clarify modeling units versus projects and what that might look like?  My undertanding is that modeling units would be similar to the SBAC sample assessments.  The projects might be something that students create based on their deep undertanding of the units.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2007</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Erin, you answered your own question correctly! The standard does not say &quot;solve&quot;, it says &quot;represent&quot;. Of course, this is intended to be preparation for solving, since a numerical solution for a word problem will often track the algebraic solution to the equation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin, you answered your own question correctly! The standard does not say &#8220;solve&#8221;, it says &#8220;represent&#8221;. Of course, this is intended to be preparation for solving, since a numerical solution for a word problem will often track the algebraic solution to the equation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Davd Smith</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2006</link>
		<dc:creator>Davd Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The standards in the Number System Domain in the 6th Grade dealing with rational numbers all use integers in the examples. Since the definition of a rational number given in that domain is &quot;a point on the number line&quot; is seems to make sense that we should be addressing fractions and decimals, both positive and negative, in building understanding about the number system. I can&#039;t see students being able to add, subtract, multiply and divide rationals in the seventh grade without that understanding. So am I putting too much weight on the examples and not enough on the wording of the standards, or are we really intended to only extend the number system to integers as a part of the rational numbers?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The standards in the Number System Domain in the 6th Grade dealing with rational numbers all use integers in the examples. Since the definition of a rational number given in that domain is &#8220;a point on the number line&#8221; is seems to make sense that we should be addressing fractions and decimals, both positive and negative, in building understanding about the number system. I can&#8217;t see students being able to add, subtract, multiply and divide rationals in the seventh grade without that understanding. So am I putting too much weight on the examples and not enough on the wording of the standards, or are we really intended to only extend the number system to integers as a part of the rational numbers?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Erin Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-2005</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It doesn&#039;t seem like it should, but I&#039;ve seen questions &quot;aligned&quot; to this standard expecting an algebraic solution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t seem like it should, but I&#8217;ve seen questions &#8220;aligned&#8221; to this standard expecting an algebraic solution.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Ginger B</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-2003</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginger B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 02:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Until now, NYS did not require memorization of formulas for volume or surface area.  Students at grade 7 were given a formula sheet or the formula was provided in the item.  This is also true for measurement conversions.  Memorization of the relationships was not required, only application.  I have to agree with Tony.  I teach middle school math and I have no idea what the formulas are for finding volume of a sphere or cone, nor can I think of one time in my adult life where I have needed to use them.  I could find them quickly if I needed them though.  I know they are in my textbook or I can find them on the internet. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until now, NYS did not require memorization of formulas for volume or surface area.  Students at grade 7 were given a formula sheet or the formula was provided in the item.  This is also true for measurement conversions.  Memorization of the relationships was not required, only application.  I have to agree with Tony.  I teach middle school math and I have no idea what the formulas are for finding volume of a sphere or cone, nor can I think of one time in my adult life where I have needed to use them.  I could find them quickly if I needed them though.  I know they are in my textbook or I can find them on the internet. <img src='http://commoncoretools.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Ginger B</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/about/#comment-2002</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginger B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 02:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m wondering if you&#039;d be willing to comment on the sample assessment questions that have been released by the NY dept of education.  I&#039;m very concerned about the level of complexity in the 7th grade math questions.  I fear that they have interpreted the standards in the most sophisticated way possible which does not seem to me to follow with the information provided in the progression documents. I&#039;m especially concerned with the interpretation of rational numbers to mean only fractional coefficients in 7.EE.1 and 7.EE.3 &quot;convert between forms&quot; to mean &quot;convert measurement units between forms&quot;.   I have to be honest, I&#039;ve been to many meetings about the common core math standards and witnessed many heated discussions about what each standard means.  I&#039;m VERY concerned about the number of ways to interpret each standard.  I understand that standards are not curriculum, but I&#039;m afraid they are being used that way.  At this point my head is spinning and I don&#039;t know what I&#039;m suposed to teach or where to go to get clarification. 

The documents are open for public comment now.
http://www.p12.nysed.gov/apda/common-core-sample-questions/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering if you&#8217;d be willing to comment on the sample assessment questions that have been released by the NY dept of education.  I&#8217;m very concerned about the level of complexity in the 7th grade math questions.  I fear that they have interpreted the standards in the most sophisticated way possible which does not seem to me to follow with the information provided in the progression documents. I&#8217;m especially concerned with the interpretation of rational numbers to mean only fractional coefficients in 7.EE.1 and 7.EE.3 &#8220;convert between forms&#8221; to mean &#8220;convert measurement units between forms&#8221;.   I have to be honest, I&#8217;ve been to many meetings about the common core math standards and witnessed many heated discussions about what each standard means.  I&#8217;m VERY concerned about the number of ways to interpret each standard.  I understand that standards are not curriculum, but I&#8217;m afraid they are being used that way.  At this point my head is spinning and I don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;m suposed to teach or where to go to get clarification. </p>
<p>The documents are open for public comment now.<br />
<a href="http://www.p12.nysed.gov/apda/common-core-sample-questions/" rel="nofollow">http://www.p12.nysed.gov/apda/common-core-sample-questions/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Turtle</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1999</link>
		<dc:creator>Turtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Dr. McCallum,
This discussion (paraphrased) has recently come up on our K-5 mathematics wiki- 
&quot;Concerning 5.OA.1: Use parentheses, brackets, or braces in numerical expressions, and evaluate expressions with these symbols.The Progressions document states, &quot;In Grade 5, this work should be viewed as exploratory rather than for attaining mastery; for example, expressions should not contain nested grouping symbols and they should be no more complex than the expressions one finds in a application of the associative or distributive property, e.g., (8 + 27)+2 or (6 x 30) + (6 x 7)&quot;. Would you clarify how this standard should be taught? How do you teach brackets, parentheses, and braces without nesting them within an equation or expression? Aren&#039;t they hierarchical in nature?&quot; I went out hunting, and here&#039;s what the North Carolina explanation says: &quot;Mathematically, there cannot be brackets or braces in a problem that does not have parentheses. Likewise, there cannot be braces in a problem that does not have both parentheses and brackets.&quot; 
I understand the confusion being generated here, and would love to have your thoughts on the matter. If you want to respond directly on the wiki (If not, I&#039;ll cut and paste!)
- here&#039;s the link- http://ccgpsmathematicsk-5.wikispaces.com/  
The question is posted in the discussion forum on the home page. 

Thanks so much. I truly appreciate the difference you are making. 

Best,
Turtle]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dr. McCallum,<br />
This discussion (paraphrased) has recently come up on our K-5 mathematics wiki-<br />
&#8220;Concerning 5.OA.1: Use parentheses, brackets, or braces in numerical expressions, and evaluate expressions with these symbols.The Progressions document states, &#8220;In Grade 5, this work should be viewed as exploratory rather than for attaining mastery; for example, expressions should not contain nested grouping symbols and they should be no more complex than the expressions one finds in a application of the associative or distributive property, e.g., (8 + 27)+2 or (6 x 30) + (6 x 7)&#8221;. Would you clarify how this standard should be taught? How do you teach brackets, parentheses, and braces without nesting them within an equation or expression? Aren&#8217;t they hierarchical in nature?&#8221; I went out hunting, and here&#8217;s what the North Carolina explanation says: &#8220;Mathematically, there cannot be brackets or braces in a problem that does not have parentheses. Likewise, there cannot be braces in a problem that does not have both parentheses and brackets.&#8221;<br />
I understand the confusion being generated here, and would love to have your thoughts on the matter. If you want to respond directly on the wiki (If not, I&#8217;ll cut and paste!)<br />
- here&#8217;s the link- <a href="http://ccgpsmathematicsk-5.wikispaces.com/" rel="nofollow">http://ccgpsmathematicsk-5.wikispaces.com/</a><br />
The question is posted in the discussion forum on the home page. </p>
<p>Thanks so much. I truly appreciate the difference you are making. </p>
<p>Best,<br />
Turtle</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Erin Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1997</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Bill, 
I have a question on 4.OA.3
Solve multistep word problems posed with whole numbers and having whole-number answers using the four operations, including problems in which remainders must be interpreted. Represent these problems using equations with a letter standing for the unknown quantity. Assess the reasonableness of answers using mental computation and estimation strategies including rounding. 

When it says &quot;represent these problems using equations,&quot; does this mean that the students need to formally solve an equation to solve the problem?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,<br />
I have a question on 4.OA.3<br />
Solve multistep word problems posed with whole numbers and having whole-number answers using the four operations, including problems in which remainders must be interpreted. Represent these problems using equations with a letter standing for the unknown quantity. Assess the reasonableness of answers using mental computation and estimation strategies including rounding. </p>
<p>When it says &#8220;represent these problems using equations,&#8221; does this mean that the students need to formally solve an equation to solve the problem?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jason Zimba&#8217;s &#8220;wiring diagram&#8221; by Jason Zimba</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/09/jason-zimbas-wiring-diagram/#comment-1994</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Zimba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The A, B, C groupings are explained in the preface to the graph, which is important to read in general for the way it puts the graph in context. (See the first few pages of the PDF file.)

As to this specific question, I&#039;m not sure if those groupings correspond to fixed periods of time such as trimesters. For example, it seems to me that group A is generally, in some sense, &quot;less time&quot; than group C. But I would leave such judgments to others...and stress that different curriculum authors might choose to sequence things differently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The A, B, C groupings are explained in the preface to the graph, which is important to read in general for the way it puts the graph in context. (See the first few pages of the PDF file.)</p>
<p>As to this specific question, I&#8217;m not sure if those groupings correspond to fixed periods of time such as trimesters. For example, it seems to me that group A is generally, in some sense, &#8220;less time&#8221; than group C. But I would leave such judgments to others&#8230;and stress that different curriculum authors might choose to sequence things differently.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jason Zimba&#8217;s &#8220;wiring diagram&#8221; by Jason Zimba</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/09/jason-zimbas-wiring-diagram/#comment-1993</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Zimba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(That is correct.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(That is correct.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Doug Van Wassenhove</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-1967</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Van Wassenhove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,
Thanks for the clarification. You&#039;re correct that I was looking at an old PDF of the standards, but please note: Although the downloadable version of the standards at corestandards.org has revised wording for F.TF.3, the online version does not. If you go to http://corestandards.org/the-standards/mathematics/high-school-functions/trigonometric-functions/, you&#039;ll see that the original version of F.TF.3 is still there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
Thanks for the clarification. You&#8217;re correct that I was looking at an old PDF of the standards, but please note: Although the downloadable version of the standards at corestandards.org has revised wording for F.TF.3, the online version does not. If you go to <a href="http://corestandards.org/the-standards/mathematics/high-school-functions/trigonometric-functions/" rel="nofollow">http://corestandards.org/the-standards/mathematics/high-school-functions/trigonometric-functions/</a>, you&#8217;ll see that the original version of F.TF.3 is still there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jason Zimba&#8217;s &#8220;wiring diagram&#8221; by bhennis72</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/09/jason-zimbas-wiring-diagram/#comment-1966</link>
		<dc:creator>bhennis72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Likewise Maggie. Seeing Jason&#039;s work just brings home the point that I could never have finished to the degree that he has.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Likewise Maggie. Seeing Jason&#8217;s work just brings home the point that I could never have finished to the degree that he has.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jason Zimba&#8217;s &#8220;wiring diagram&#8221; by Bob Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/09/jason-zimbas-wiring-diagram/#comment-1963</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It appears the green lines represent relationships between different grade levels, but I may be wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears the green lines represent relationships between different grade levels, but I may be wrong.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1962</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 19:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Susie,


Your interpretation is correct. SMP 4 is as you describe, and is also as described on pages 72–73 of the standards, at least in high school. The phrase &quot;mathematical modeling&quot; refers to this as well.

However, in the elementary standards, there are standards like:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
1.OA.1 Add within 100, including adding a two-digit number and a one-digit number, and adding a two-digit number and a multiple of 10, using concrete models or drawings and strategies based on place value, properties of operations, and/or the relationship between addition and subtraction; relate the strategy to a written method and explain the reasoning used. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think this is the source of the confusion, because it seems to be going the other way, using a physical situation to model a mathematical idea. Personally, I think the underlying process is quite similar; you are taking some problem you don&#039;t know how to solve, modeling it with things you can manipulate (in this case, base ten blocks, later on, algebraic symbols), and using them to solve the problem. True, a two-digit addition is not a contextual problem, although in elementary school it will often arise out of one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susie,</p>
<p>Your interpretation is correct. SMP 4 is as you describe, and is also as described on pages 72–73 of the standards, at least in high school. The phrase &#8220;mathematical modeling&#8221; refers to this as well.</p>
<p>However, in the elementary standards, there are standards like:</p>
<blockquote><p>
1.OA.1 Add within 100, including adding a two-digit number and a one-digit number, and adding a two-digit number and a multiple of 10, using concrete models or drawings and strategies based on place value, properties of operations, and/or the relationship between addition and subtraction; relate the strategy to a written method and explain the reasoning used.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I think this is the source of the confusion, because it seems to be going the other way, using a physical situation to model a mathematical idea. Personally, I think the underlying process is quite similar; you are taking some problem you don&#8217;t know how to solve, modeling it with things you can manipulate (in this case, base ten blocks, later on, algebraic symbols), and using them to solve the problem. True, a two-digit addition is not a contextual problem, although in elementary school it will often arise out of one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1961</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 19:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cathey, since Arizona is a PARCC state my guess is that it will eventually conform to the PARCC framework when that becomes final. I guess the draft framework is a good guide to where they are heading, but state feedback might still cause some modifications. Sorry I can&#039;t offer any more guidance!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathey, since Arizona is a PARCC state my guess is that it will eventually conform to the PARCC framework when that becomes final. I guess the draft framework is a good guide to where they are heading, but state feedback might still cause some modifications. Sorry I can&#8217;t offer any more guidance!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1960</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 19:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One problem with &quot;simplify&quot; is that it suggests that there is a canonical simplified form of very expression. Choosing a form should have something to do with having a purpose. So, for example, the airline pilot wants to know about how many miles the arc is, and therefore it makes sense to write the fraction in the form of a mixed number.

Sorry I don&#039;t have time right now to respond at greater length; thanks Lane for joining in!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One problem with &#8220;simplify&#8221; is that it suggests that there is a canonical simplified form of very expression. Choosing a form should have something to do with having a purpose. So, for example, the airline pilot wants to know about how many miles the arc is, and therefore it makes sense to write the fraction in the form of a mixed number.</p>
<p>Sorry I don&#8217;t have time right now to respond at greater length; thanks Lane for joining in!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1959</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 19:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, you are quite correct about separating fraction notation from ratio notation, and your interpretation of the sentence in the grade level introduction is correct. However, students in Grade 6 will still be using fractions in connection with ratio reasoning. See, for example, Method 3 in the margin on page 7, where students are seeing that you can get the second column by multiplying the first column by a fraction.

As for proportions, the emphasis in the standards is on understanding proportional relationships and using them to solve problems. Students know that proportional relationships are sets of equivalent ratios, and that equivalent ratios have the same unit rate. The cross-multiplying method is a consequence of this, but &quot;setting-up-and-solving-proportions-by-cross-multiplying&quot; is not a topic in itself, but rather a method that arises out of understanding proportional relationships. The discussion on the second half of page 9 is an attempt to explain this, but maybe it needs to be fleshed out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, you are quite correct about separating fraction notation from ratio notation, and your interpretation of the sentence in the grade level introduction is correct. However, students in Grade 6 will still be using fractions in connection with ratio reasoning. See, for example, Method 3 in the margin on page 7, where students are seeing that you can get the second column by multiplying the first column by a fraction.</p>
<p>As for proportions, the emphasis in the standards is on understanding proportional relationships and using them to solve problems. Students know that proportional relationships are sets of equivalent ratios, and that equivalent ratios have the same unit rate. The cross-multiplying method is a consequence of this, but &#8220;setting-up-and-solving-proportions-by-cross-multiplying&#8221; is not a topic in itself, but rather a method that arises out of understanding proportional relationships. The discussion on the second half of page 9 is an attempt to explain this, but maybe it needs to be fleshed out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1958</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, it refers for example to seeing that a 120 degree rotation around the circumcenter of an equilateral triangle takes it to itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it refers for example to seeing that a 120 degree rotation around the circumcenter of an equilateral triangle takes it to itself.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1957</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The types of problems are stated with the italic $latex A$ representing any phrase of the form &quot;twice&quot;, &quot;3 times&quot;, etc. Initially these problems will involve only whole numbers, and students could encounter such problems in Grade 4. For example, &quot;A blue hat costs $B. A red hat costs twice as much as the blue hat. How much does the red hat cost?&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The types of problems are stated with the italic <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=A&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="A" title="A" class="latex" /> representing any phrase of the form &#8220;twice&#8221;, &#8220;3 times&#8221;, etc. Initially these problems will involve only whole numbers, and students could encounter such problems in Grade 4. For example, &#8220;A blue hat costs $B. A red hat costs twice as much as the blue hat. How much does the red hat cost?&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Scott Lape</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1956</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Lape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a big help. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a big help. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1955</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[G.CO.2 does not require the use of function notation, but rather asks that students think of transformation as functions. It is not about notation, and certainly not about creating some horrible catalog of notations for different transformations, but rather about experimenting with transformations. Indeed the cluster heading for these standard is &quot;Experiment with transformations in the plane.&quot; (It&#039;s always a good idea to look at the cluster heading to get a sense of the standard.)

G.CO.6 is more precise, and asks students to work with the precise definition of different transformations. Here one might or might not introduce some notation for different types of transformations; that&#039;s really a curricular decision. My preference would be to avoid it for as long as possible and ask student to work directly with the descriptions. I&#039;ve seen horrible exercises in textbooks about this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G.CO.2 does not require the use of function notation, but rather asks that students think of transformation as functions. It is not about notation, and certainly not about creating some horrible catalog of notations for different transformations, but rather about experimenting with transformations. Indeed the cluster heading for these standard is &#8220;Experiment with transformations in the plane.&#8221; (It&#8217;s always a good idea to look at the cluster heading to get a sense of the standard.)</p>
<p>G.CO.6 is more precise, and asks students to work with the precise definition of different transformations. Here one might or might not introduce some notation for different types of transformations; that&#8217;s really a curricular decision. My preference would be to avoid it for as long as possible and ask student to work directly with the descriptions. I&#8217;ve seen horrible exercises in textbooks about this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1954</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is on the right track. Yes, congruence is defined in terms of rigid motions as you describe. However, for the definition of rigid motion, see the glossary, page 87:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Rigid motion. A transformation of points in space consisting of a sequence of one or more translations, reflections, and/or rotations. Rigid motions are here assumed to preserve distances and angle measures.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So it is taken as an axiom that translations, reflections, and rotations preserve distance and angle, although students are asked in Grade 8 to verify this experimentally (8.G.1). 

With these definitions and assumptions, it is possible to prove that two triangles have congruent corresponding sides and angles then there is a rigid motion taking one to the other. First you translate one of the triangles so a pair of corresponding vertices coincides, then you you rotate so that a pair of corresponding sides from that vertex coincides, and possibly reflect so that the other pair of sides lies on the same side of the first one. From this point on, using that angles and distances have been preserved, you can reason that the triangles coincide.

Yes, I know, we should have the geometry progression out where all this is explained with diagrams. Sigh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is on the right track. Yes, congruence is defined in terms of rigid motions as you describe. However, for the definition of rigid motion, see the glossary, page 87:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Rigid motion. A transformation of points in space consisting of a sequence of one or more translations, reflections, and/or rotations. Rigid motions are here assumed to preserve distances and angle measures.
</p></blockquote>
<p>So it is taken as an axiom that translations, reflections, and rotations preserve distance and angle, although students are asked in Grade 8 to verify this experimentally (8.G.1). </p>
<p>With these definitions and assumptions, it is possible to prove that two triangles have congruent corresponding sides and angles then there is a rigid motion taking one to the other. First you translate one of the triangles so a pair of corresponding vertices coincides, then you you rotate so that a pair of corresponding sides from that vertex coincides, and possibly reflect so that the other pair of sides lies on the same side of the first one. From this point on, using that angles and distances have been preserved, you can reason that the triangles coincide.</p>
<p>Yes, I know, we should have the geometry progression out where all this is explained with diagrams. Sigh.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1953</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First a general comment on the Grade 8 geometry standards: it is not necessary that all the work on transformations in Grade 8 take place in a plane with coordinates. Students could get hands on experience with transformations using geometry software or a pair of transparences, in which they perform and analyze transformations in a blank plane without coordinates. I think this would be preferable for much of the work.

However, there is one standard that refers to coordinates, and I assume this is the one you are talking about:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
8.G.4. Describe the effect of dilations, translations, rotations, and reflections on two-dimensional figures using coordinates.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Here I think it is reasonable to suppose that the problem is limited to ones students can do with the algebraic tools at their disposal. That would include your (2) and (3), but it wouldn&#039;t even include all rotations about the origin, since you need trigonometry for that. It could include rotations through 90 degrees, and I can imagine a few more transformations that could be used in instruction as challenge problems of an exploratory nature. For example, you could have students figure out that a dilation from a center other than the origin can be achieved by first translating the center to the origin, dilating there, and then translating back again. But I would hate to see this turned into some formulas to be memorized on a test.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First a general comment on the Grade 8 geometry standards: it is not necessary that all the work on transformations in Grade 8 take place in a plane with coordinates. Students could get hands on experience with transformations using geometry software or a pair of transparences, in which they perform and analyze transformations in a blank plane without coordinates. I think this would be preferable for much of the work.</p>
<p>However, there is one standard that refers to coordinates, and I assume this is the one you are talking about:</p>
<blockquote><p>
8.G.4. Describe the effect of dilations, translations, rotations, and reflections on two-dimensional figures using coordinates.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Here I think it is reasonable to suppose that the problem is limited to ones students can do with the algebraic tools at their disposal. That would include your (2) and (3), but it wouldn&#8217;t even include all rotations about the origin, since you need trigonometry for that. It could include rotations through 90 degrees, and I can imagine a few more transformations that could be used in instruction as challenge problems of an exploratory nature. For example, you could have students figure out that a dilation from a center other than the origin can be achieved by first translating the center to the origin, dilating there, and then translating back again. But I would hate to see this turned into some formulas to be memorized on a test.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1951</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks very much Leandra and Monique! Let me add that the standards avoid talking about &quot;conversion&quot; between fractions, decimals, and percents, because it reinforces the misconception that these are all somehow different kinds of numbers, rather than different ways of writing the same number. So, for example, the Grade 4 standard that Leandra pointed out &quot;Use decimal notation for fractions with denominator 10 and 100&quot; certainly includes &quot;converting&quot; 0.25 to 25/100, but says it a different way, namely that 0.25 and 25/100 are different names for the same number. The same comments apply to percents in Grade 6, where 30% is understood to be simply a different way of writing 30/100, rather than a different sort of number called a percent. This is all part of the shift in middle school towards seeing numbers as part of a number system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much Leandra and Monique! Let me add that the standards avoid talking about &#8220;conversion&#8221; between fractions, decimals, and percents, because it reinforces the misconception that these are all somehow different kinds of numbers, rather than different ways of writing the same number. So, for example, the Grade 4 standard that Leandra pointed out &#8220;Use decimal notation for fractions with denominator 10 and 100&#8243; certainly includes &#8220;converting&#8221; 0.25 to 25/100, but says it a different way, namely that 0.25 and 25/100 are different names for the same number. The same comments apply to percents in Grade 6, where 30% is understood to be simply a different way of writing 30/100, rather than a different sort of number called a percent. This is all part of the shift in middle school towards seeing numbers as part of a number system.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jason Zimba&#8217;s &#8220;wiring diagram&#8221; by Gretchen Muller</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/09/jason-zimbas-wiring-diagram/#comment-1950</link>
		<dc:creator>Gretchen Muller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are spending time looking at and interpreting Jason&#039;s graph. Does anyone know the difference between the green and black lines? Everything else is explained in the document. Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are spending time looking at and interpreting Jason&#8217;s graph. Does anyone know the difference between the green and black lines? Everything else is explained in the document. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Cathey Nicol</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1949</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathey Nicol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My algebra team and I are looking at the next year’s curriculum planning and I wonder if you can answer some questions.  Using Arizona&#039;s “suggested” levels it seems that rational expressions is meant for algebra 1 (9th grade) and SOLVING quadratics has been moved up to Algebra 2.  Yet the rough PARCC framework states “working with linear, quadratic…..expressions and equations” and that Algebra 2 “expands knowledge…through rational expressions”.  Is there any more clarity on either one of these ends?   I think I heard that the frameworks will be released this fall. ….(?)  Any direction you could offer would be awesome.  I know things are still in a bit of flux and this year is a transition year anyway, but I would certainly feel better equipped to handle the barrage of questions that will be sent MY way this year so.. I’m adding to your barrage this summer]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My algebra team and I are looking at the next year’s curriculum planning and I wonder if you can answer some questions.  Using Arizona&#8217;s “suggested” levels it seems that rational expressions is meant for algebra 1 (9th grade) and SOLVING quadratics has been moved up to Algebra 2.  Yet the rough PARCC framework states “working with linear, quadratic…..expressions and equations” and that Algebra 2 “expands knowledge…through rational expressions”.  Is there any more clarity on either one of these ends?   I think I heard that the frameworks will be released this fall. ….(?)  Any direction you could offer would be awesome.  I know things are still in a bit of flux and this year is a transition year anyway, but I would certainly feel better equipped to handle the barrage of questions that will be sent MY way this year so.. I’m adding to your barrage this summer</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Susie W. Hakansson</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1948</link>
		<dc:creator>Susie W. Hakansson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill:

Several of the California Mathematics Project (CMP) sites are holding institutes on mathematical modeling. At one of the sites I&#039;m visiting, the leaders asked me about the difference between mathematical modeling and the Standard for Mathematical Practice (SMP) &quot;Model with Mathematics.&quot; Some teachers think these are different concepts, and I&#039;ve been told different things.

This is my perspective, and I want to know if this is the intent of the CCSS. Mathematical modeling is similar to the types of problems that CoMap has produced. The SMP model with mathematics is also connected to that definition. If one has a contextual problem, then model with mathematics is using mathematics to solve the problem, using mathematics as the model to solve the problem, then going back to the context. What it is not is using physical models to represent the problem.

I&#039;ve heard in conferences the latter for model with mathematics--using physical models to represent the problem. Could you help me understand the difference between mathematical modeling and model with mathematics? Thanks.

Susie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill:</p>
<p>Several of the California Mathematics Project (CMP) sites are holding institutes on mathematical modeling. At one of the sites I&#8217;m visiting, the leaders asked me about the difference between mathematical modeling and the Standard for Mathematical Practice (SMP) &#8220;Model with Mathematics.&#8221; Some teachers think these are different concepts, and I&#8217;ve been told different things.</p>
<p>This is my perspective, and I want to know if this is the intent of the CCSS. Mathematical modeling is similar to the types of problems that CoMap has produced. The SMP model with mathematics is also connected to that definition. If one has a contextual problem, then model with mathematics is using mathematics to solve the problem, using mathematics as the model to solve the problem, then going back to the context. What it is not is using physical models to represent the problem.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard in conferences the latter for model with mathematics&#8211;using physical models to represent the problem. Could you help me understand the difference between mathematical modeling and model with mathematics? Thanks.</p>
<p>Susie</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Leandra</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1936</link>
		<dc:creator>Leandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes the standard says multiplication AND DIVISION within 100. The glossary then defines that as having a product OR DIVIDEND within the range of 0-100. The only stipulation here is no remainders. I missed the glossary before I posted my question. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the standard says multiplication AND DIVISION within 100. The glossary then defines that as having a product OR DIVIDEND within the range of 0-100. The only stipulation here is no remainders. I missed the glossary before I posted my question. <img src='http://commoncoretools.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Jason Zimba&#8217;s &#8220;wiring diagram&#8221; by Maggie Hackett</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/09/jason-zimbas-wiring-diagram/#comment-1934</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie Hackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome - Thanks for sharing.  I had started to do this, got as far as connections between OA &amp; NBT in 1st grade, and then was horrified at the &quot;mess&quot; that evolved. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome &#8211; Thanks for sharing.  I had started to do this, got as far as connections between OA &amp; NBT in 1st grade, and then was horrified at the &#8220;mess&#8221; that evolved. <img src='http://commoncoretools.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lynda Holman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynda Holman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 22:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been following this 3rd grade thread and hoping that there would be additional clarification on division. The AZ standards and practices use a model of 92 divided by 4  (4 students sharing 94 objects). Does this continue the same skill/conceptual standard as &quot;Multiplication of 1-digit by 2-digit numbers is included as long as the product is less than 100. From the glossary (on page 85 of the standards)&quot;?

 Any dividend less than 100 is acceptable for 3rd grade division????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been following this 3rd grade thread and hoping that there would be additional clarification on division. The AZ standards and practices use a model of 92 divided by 4  (4 students sharing 94 objects). Does this continue the same skill/conceptual standard as &#8220;Multiplication of 1-digit by 2-digit numbers is included as long as the product is less than 100. From the glossary (on page 85 of the standards)&#8221;?</p>
<p> Any dividend less than 100 is acceptable for 3rd grade division????</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jason Zimba&#8217;s &#8220;wiring diagram&#8221; by Abigail</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/09/jason-zimbas-wiring-diagram/#comment-1930</link>
		<dc:creator>Abigail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is interesting! Could I interpret the &quot;6A&quot;, &quot;6B&quot;, &quot;6C&quot; divisions to roughly correspond to material covered each trimester?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is interesting! Could I interpret the &#8220;6A&#8221;, &#8220;6B&#8221;, &#8220;6C&#8221; divisions to roughly correspond to material covered each trimester?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1929</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having had similar teaching experience, I have slowly bought into the rationale behind the CCSS on these points.  Simplifying is really a misnomer in most cases.  It may sound like splitting hairs, but that word confuses a lot of students because it is used in so many different contexts, meaning so many different things. With regards to reducing fractions, it is a very good practice; but we have too many students who can&#039;t handle all the bells and whistles when they are thrown in too soon.  I see the wisdom in always hammering the &quot;one thing that always works&quot; as far as multiplying denominators for those kids who get confused trying to remember all the methods that could be used.  Be sure to finish reading that thread for LCD in the comments as we had quite a discussion before I decided CCSS has it right on that one, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having had similar teaching experience, I have slowly bought into the rationale behind the CCSS on these points.  Simplifying is really a misnomer in most cases.  It may sound like splitting hairs, but that word confuses a lot of students because it is used in so many different contexts, meaning so many different things. With regards to reducing fractions, it is a very good practice; but we have too many students who can&#8217;t handle all the bells and whistles when they are thrown in too soon.  I see the wisdom in always hammering the &#8220;one thing that always works&#8221; as far as multiplying denominators for those kids who get confused trying to remember all the methods that could be used.  Be sure to finish reading that thread for LCD in the comments as we had quite a discussion before I decided CCSS has it right on that one, too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Elizabeth Appelbaum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1928</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Appelbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have taught most undergraduate college courses in mathematics and tutored at earlier levels. Simplification of fractions is important. Here are some examples of measure conversion, requiring simplification:

A pilot asked me to explain a formula he learned in flight school. His teachers there could not explain it. Here is the formula, with revised terminology: 

A circular arc, radius r miles, angle A degrees, has length of arc approximately rA/60 miles.

I explained that the exact formula is rA* Pi/180 . (The fraction  Pi/180 converts degree measure to radian measure.) Since Pi/180 is approximately 3/180 = 1/60, the flight school formula works. I asked him why not use the exact formula with a calculator. He laughed and said that the pilot has both hands on the controls; the calculation has to be mental.  Here is an example of such a calculation. Suppose the arc has radius 80 miles, angle 70 degrees. The length of arc is approximately 80 * 70/60 = 80 * 7/6 = 40 \times 7/3   = 280/3  = 93 1/3 miles.
Calculating without simplification, the result is 5600/60 miles, a result that might not help the pilot.

Here is another example: I need a half-recipe, and the original called for 1/3 cup of flour. Now ½ * 1/3 = 1/6, so I need 1/6 cup of flour, but this is not a standard measure.  I convert cups to tablespoons; there are 16 tablespoons in a cup.  So 1/3 * 16 = 16/6. It would be tedious and inaccurate to measure 1/6 tablespoon 16 times. Simplifying, I get 8/3 = 2 2/3 tablespoons.  I measure 2 full tablespoons and estimate 2/3 of another tablespoon. For more accuracy, use the fact that there are 3 teaspoons in a tablespoon: to get 2/3 tablespoon, measure 2 teaspoons. (Most American cooks have a set of measuring spoons: 1 tablespoon, and teaspoons: 1, ½, ¼, and 1/8.) 
In many cases, fractions are most convenient and useful when simplified. Simplification is easier when a least common denominator is found. If fractions are multiplied, the simplification I easier when done before rather than after the multiplication.

Simplification of radicals is not in the Standards, and I agree with this omission. For example, I question the custom of expressing square roots with no perfect squares under the radical sign, such as

 Sqrt(200) = 10 * Sqrt(2).

 Young people may not know the old-fashioned reasons for this calculation. Before the era of calculators, people often used a table of square roots. Many tables showed square roots of the integers between 2 and 100. So you could not look up the square root of 200, but you could evaluate it as 10 Sqrt(2) approx. 10(1.414) = 14.14.

Furthermore, evaluation was often time-consuming and not very accurate. In addition to tables of square roots, we used slide rules and tables of logarithms. Say you wanted to evaluate:
(Equation 1)   Sqrt (72) + Sqrt (2)  approx. 8.585 + 1.414 = 9.899.
 If you simplified Sqrt (72) as 6 Sqrt (2), then the result is 7 Sqrt (2), and you need to look up only one square root instead of two. Also, this calculation could be done on a slide rule, but the addition in Equation 1 could not. Today Equation 1 is done more accurately on a calculator; I like to do it with an exponent instead of a radical, like this:
 72^.5 + 2^.5
Similarly, younger folks may not know a reason to rationalize denominators.  For hand calculation, multiplication of decimals is usually easier than division.  For example:
1/Sqrt(3) approx. 1/1.732
Rationalizing the denominator, you get Sqrt3)/3 approx 1.732/3.
By hand, the first calculation takes more time than second. The calculator is just as happy to divide as to multiply, so rationalizing of denominators is not as important as formerly.

Of course, another reason instructors demand simplified answers to is to get answers in a standard form, easier to grade. One way to get standard answers is to request a numerical answer, correct, say, to two decimal places.  I like numerical answers, because they prepare the students for applied problems, and because I can make sure students know how to round decimals.

Rational expressions are sometimes simplified by finding a least common denominator and adding. For example, say f(x, y) is
	1/(x + y) + 2/(x  - y) + 3/(x^2 – y^2) = (3x + y + 3)/(x^2 – y^2) 
	The expression on the right is easier to evaluate than the one on the left. To motivate such simplifications, sometimes I ask the student to use each expression and a calculator to evaluate, say, f(1.96, 2.17).

If the student gets a common denominator by multiplying all three denominators, the result is
	((x  - y)( x^2 – y^2)  + 2(x + y)( x^2 – y^2) +3(x + y)(x – y))/((x + y)(x – y)( x^2 – y^2))
This expression is awkward to write, let alone to evaluate.  In the bad old days, before calculators, people had powerful reasons to simplify calculation. Even now, the effort can be worthwhile. As others have observed, if students are skilled with numerical fractions, they are more ready to learn algebraic fractions.
I don&#039;t like any formula for adding fractions. The formulas are intimidating, and they don&#039;t work well for adding more than two fractions.  Instead, I like Lane&#039;s comments on May 24, using primes. The hard part is finding the least common multiple; there is a nice discussion at http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/58140.html. One you have that number, it is not rocket science to rename each fraction with this denominator. Don&#039;t state a formula or even a rule; just show some examples and let students practice until they catch on.
I prefer to say rename a fraction, rather than replace it with an equivalent fraction. In abstract algebra, we define fractions with an equivalence relation for ordered pairs of integers, so one pair can be equivalent to another. The pair (1, 2) is equivalent to the pair (2, 4). But the fractions ½  and 2/4 are  not merely equivalent; they are equal; these are two names for the same number.
In middle and high school, students still need to practice fractions, including mixed numbers. In most textbooks I see, answers are small whole numbers, or decimals calculated with a calculator. Here is a use for fractions in algebra: graph by hand a linear equation in standard form, like 3x + 7y = 10. The fastest way to do so is to calculate the two intercepts, which are (3 1/3, 0), and (0, 1 3/7). Plot the two points on grid paper and connect with a straight edge. Note that these mixed numbers are easier to plot than the improper fractions, 10/3 and 10/7.
We compete economically, and we may compete in war, with nations whose curriculums include simplification of fractions. Members of the Armed Services are expected to know this topic. Community colleges have remedial courses, which include it. Contractors, carpenters, plumbers, and electricians need it. They should know 4/64 inch = 1/16 inch. In short, simplification of fractions is still essential.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have taught most undergraduate college courses in mathematics and tutored at earlier levels. Simplification of fractions is important. Here are some examples of measure conversion, requiring simplification:</p>
<p>A pilot asked me to explain a formula he learned in flight school. His teachers there could not explain it. Here is the formula, with revised terminology: </p>
<p>A circular arc, radius r miles, angle A degrees, has length of arc approximately rA/60 miles.</p>
<p>I explained that the exact formula is rA* Pi/180 . (The fraction  Pi/180 converts degree measure to radian measure.) Since Pi/180 is approximately 3/180 = 1/60, the flight school formula works. I asked him why not use the exact formula with a calculator. He laughed and said that the pilot has both hands on the controls; the calculation has to be mental.  Here is an example of such a calculation. Suppose the arc has radius 80 miles, angle 70 degrees. The length of arc is approximately 80 * 70/60 = 80 * 7/6 = 40 \times 7/3   = 280/3  = 93 1/3 miles.<br />
Calculating without simplification, the result is 5600/60 miles, a result that might not help the pilot.</p>
<p>Here is another example: I need a half-recipe, and the original called for 1/3 cup of flour. Now ½ * 1/3 = 1/6, so I need 1/6 cup of flour, but this is not a standard measure.  I convert cups to tablespoons; there are 16 tablespoons in a cup.  So 1/3 * 16 = 16/6. It would be tedious and inaccurate to measure 1/6 tablespoon 16 times. Simplifying, I get 8/3 = 2 2/3 tablespoons.  I measure 2 full tablespoons and estimate 2/3 of another tablespoon. For more accuracy, use the fact that there are 3 teaspoons in a tablespoon: to get 2/3 tablespoon, measure 2 teaspoons. (Most American cooks have a set of measuring spoons: 1 tablespoon, and teaspoons: 1, ½, ¼, and 1/8.)<br />
In many cases, fractions are most convenient and useful when simplified. Simplification is easier when a least common denominator is found. If fractions are multiplied, the simplification I easier when done before rather than after the multiplication.</p>
<p>Simplification of radicals is not in the Standards, and I agree with this omission. For example, I question the custom of expressing square roots with no perfect squares under the radical sign, such as</p>
<p> Sqrt(200) = 10 * Sqrt(2).</p>
<p> Young people may not know the old-fashioned reasons for this calculation. Before the era of calculators, people often used a table of square roots. Many tables showed square roots of the integers between 2 and 100. So you could not look up the square root of 200, but you could evaluate it as 10 Sqrt(2) approx. 10(1.414) = 14.14.</p>
<p>Furthermore, evaluation was often time-consuming and not very accurate. In addition to tables of square roots, we used slide rules and tables of logarithms. Say you wanted to evaluate:<br />
(Equation 1)   Sqrt (72) + Sqrt (2)  approx. 8.585 + 1.414 = 9.899.<br />
 If you simplified Sqrt (72) as 6 Sqrt (2), then the result is 7 Sqrt (2), and you need to look up only one square root instead of two. Also, this calculation could be done on a slide rule, but the addition in Equation 1 could not. Today Equation 1 is done more accurately on a calculator; I like to do it with an exponent instead of a radical, like this:<br />
 72^.5 + 2^.5<br />
Similarly, younger folks may not know a reason to rationalize denominators.  For hand calculation, multiplication of decimals is usually easier than division.  For example:<br />
1/Sqrt(3) approx. 1/1.732<br />
Rationalizing the denominator, you get Sqrt3)/3 approx 1.732/3.<br />
By hand, the first calculation takes more time than second. The calculator is just as happy to divide as to multiply, so rationalizing of denominators is not as important as formerly.</p>
<p>Of course, another reason instructors demand simplified answers to is to get answers in a standard form, easier to grade. One way to get standard answers is to request a numerical answer, correct, say, to two decimal places.  I like numerical answers, because they prepare the students for applied problems, and because I can make sure students know how to round decimals.</p>
<p>Rational expressions are sometimes simplified by finding a least common denominator and adding. For example, say f(x, y) is<br />
	1/(x + y) + 2/(x  &#8211; y) + 3/(x^2 – y^2) = (3x + y + 3)/(x^2 – y^2)<br />
	The expression on the right is easier to evaluate than the one on the left. To motivate such simplifications, sometimes I ask the student to use each expression and a calculator to evaluate, say, f(1.96, 2.17).</p>
<p>If the student gets a common denominator by multiplying all three denominators, the result is<br />
	((x  &#8211; y)( x^2 – y^2)  + 2(x + y)( x^2 – y^2) +3(x + y)(x – y))/((x + y)(x – y)( x^2 – y^2))<br />
This expression is awkward to write, let alone to evaluate.  In the bad old days, before calculators, people had powerful reasons to simplify calculation. Even now, the effort can be worthwhile. As others have observed, if students are skilled with numerical fractions, they are more ready to learn algebraic fractions.<br />
I don&#8217;t like any formula for adding fractions. The formulas are intimidating, and they don&#8217;t work well for adding more than two fractions.  Instead, I like Lane&#8217;s comments on May 24, using primes. The hard part is finding the least common multiple; there is a nice discussion at <a href="http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/58140.html" rel="nofollow">http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/58140.html</a>. One you have that number, it is not rocket science to rename each fraction with this denominator. Don&#8217;t state a formula or even a rule; just show some examples and let students practice until they catch on.<br />
I prefer to say rename a fraction, rather than replace it with an equivalent fraction. In abstract algebra, we define fractions with an equivalence relation for ordered pairs of integers, so one pair can be equivalent to another. The pair (1, 2) is equivalent to the pair (2, 4). But the fractions ½  and 2/4 are  not merely equivalent; they are equal; these are two names for the same number.<br />
In middle and high school, students still need to practice fractions, including mixed numbers. In most textbooks I see, answers are small whole numbers, or decimals calculated with a calculator. Here is a use for fractions in algebra: graph by hand a linear equation in standard form, like 3x + 7y = 10. The fastest way to do so is to calculate the two intercepts, which are (3 1/3, 0), and (0, 1 3/7). Plot the two points on grid paper and connect with a straight edge. Note that these mixed numbers are easier to plot than the improper fractions, 10/3 and 10/7.<br />
We compete economically, and we may compete in war, with nations whose curriculums include simplification of fractions. Members of the Armed Services are expected to know this topic. Community colleges have remedial courses, which include it. Contractors, carpenters, plumbers, and electricians need it. They should know 4/64 inch = 1/16 inch. In short, simplification of fractions is still essential.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Elizabeth Appelbaum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-1927</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Appelbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to Brad and Bill for thoughtful, prompt replies. I am glad that you agree, 2/3 of a cup is a more sensible measure than 22/33. Thank you for agreeing that it may be wise to add mixed numbers without conversion to improper fractions. The Standards seem to say this method is optional; rarely do I encounter a student who knows it. Both methods of addition/subtraction should be taught: with and without conversion. You also say ( http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comments) &quot;the Standards do not require simplifying fractions into lowest terms, since it is not a mathematically important topic. To quote the Fractions Progression, &#039;It is possible to over-emphasise the importance of reducing fractions …. There is no mathematical reason why fractions must be written in reduced form, although it may be convenient to do so in simple cases.&#039;” Please see my comments at the above link.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Brad and Bill for thoughtful, prompt replies. I am glad that you agree, 2/3 of a cup is a more sensible measure than 22/33. Thank you for agreeing that it may be wise to add mixed numbers without conversion to improper fractions. The Standards seem to say this method is optional; rarely do I encounter a student who knows it. Both methods of addition/subtraction should be taught: with and without conversion. You also say ( <a href="http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comments</a>) &#8220;the Standards do not require simplifying fractions into lowest terms, since it is not a mathematically important topic. To quote the Fractions Progression, &#8216;It is possible to over-emphasise the importance of reducing fractions …. There is no mathematical reason why fractions must be written in reduced form, although it may be convenient to do so in simple cases.&#8217;” Please see my comments at the above link.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Monique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part 1: The 6-7 Ratios and Proportions progression document is quite clear about the intent to keep fraction notation and ratio notation distinct:

&quot;Because ratios and rates are different and rates will often be written using fraction notation in high school, ratio notation should be distinct from fraction notation.&quot; (page 4)

This makes sense for many reasons. However, this is a large departure from the norm. Keeping that in mind, critical area (1) in the Grade 6 standards introduction states: 

&quot;Thus students expand the scope of problems for which they can use multiplication and division to solve problems, and they connect ratios and fractions.&quot; (page 39)

The phrase &quot;connect ratios and fractions&quot; really sounds like it is referring to fraction notation. Many people will interpret it that way due to it being the current norm. However, it seems more likely that this phrase is referring to the unit rate a/b of the ratio a : b, and possibly how you can generate fractional values in equivalent ratios. Is this correct? If so, the language in the Grade 6 standards introduction is very confusing and could mislead a large number of people. If this statement really does imply fraction notation, then I&#039;m confused.

Part 2: Assuming students do not see fraction notation with ratios in Grade 6, how do the standard writers envision the flow from Grade 6 ratios to Grade 7 with proportions? Is it merely a distinction that they can write the values of these ratios as fractions, equate them, and then solve an equation? This seems to be brushed over in the progression document. Sure, proportions are not referred to in a standard, but the progression document does refer to them. Without this type of distinction, the progression document seems to contradict itself between grades. Am I missing something?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part 1: The 6-7 Ratios and Proportions progression document is quite clear about the intent to keep fraction notation and ratio notation distinct:</p>
<p>&#8220;Because ratios and rates are different and rates will often be written using fraction notation in high school, ratio notation should be distinct from fraction notation.&#8221; (page 4)</p>
<p>This makes sense for many reasons. However, this is a large departure from the norm. Keeping that in mind, critical area (1) in the Grade 6 standards introduction states: </p>
<p>&#8220;Thus students expand the scope of problems for which they can use multiplication and division to solve problems, and they connect ratios and fractions.&#8221; (page 39)</p>
<p>The phrase &#8220;connect ratios and fractions&#8221; really sounds like it is referring to fraction notation. Many people will interpret it that way due to it being the current norm. However, it seems more likely that this phrase is referring to the unit rate a/b of the ratio a : b, and possibly how you can generate fractional values in equivalent ratios. Is this correct? If so, the language in the Grade 6 standards introduction is very confusing and could mislead a large number of people. If this statement really does imply fraction notation, then I&#8217;m confused.</p>
<p>Part 2: Assuming students do not see fraction notation with ratios in Grade 6, how do the standard writers envision the flow from Grade 6 ratios to Grade 7 with proportions? Is it merely a distinction that they can write the values of these ratios as fractions, equate them, and then solve an equation? This seems to be brushed over in the progression document. Sure, proportions are not referred to in a standard, but the progression document does refer to them. Without this type of distinction, the progression document seems to contradict itself between grades. Am I missing something?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Monique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As stated, they have introductory knowledge in prior grades converting fractions and decimals (10ths and 100ths), and then percents as fractions in Grade 6. But I think what you are looking for is in Grade 7. Standard 7.NS.2d covers fractions to decimals, formalizing the language of terminating/repeating. Standard 7.EE.3 seems to bring everything together, requiring &quot;converting between forms as appropriate.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As stated, they have introductory knowledge in prior grades converting fractions and decimals (10ths and 100ths), and then percents as fractions in Grade 6. But I think what you are looking for is in Grade 7. Standard 7.NS.2d covers fractions to decimals, formalizing the language of terminating/repeating. Standard 7.EE.3 seems to bring everything together, requiring &#8220;converting between forms as appropriate.&#8221;</p>
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		<dc:creator>Janice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[G-CO.3 asks students to describe rotations and reflections that carry certain figures onto themselves.  Is this standard really just rotational and reflective symmetry?  A simple 360 degree rotation will always carry a figure back to itself, which seems much too simple for high school.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G-CO.3 asks students to describe rotations and reflections that carry certain figures onto themselves.  Is this standard really just rotational and reflective symmetry?  A simple 360 degree rotation will always carry a figure back to itself, which seems much too simple for high school.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The link works for me, but here is the url: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11459286/ccssmgraph.pdf.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link works for me, but here is the url: <a href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11459286/ccssmgraph.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11459286/ccssmgraph.pdf</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jason Zimba&#8217;s &#8220;wiring diagram&#8221; by Howard Levine</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/06/09/jason-zimbas-wiring-diagram/#comment-1919</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[please send the actual URL, the embedded link did not open on my computer]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please send the actual URL, the embedded link did not open on my computer</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Paige Satcher</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1916</link>
		<dc:creator>Paige Satcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi.  Any chance the end of the month is here yet?  :) Or is there any chance I could steal a glance at the k-2 portion?  I am ready to begin writing a unit of study for 1st grade geometry and would love to read and study this before I begin.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.  Any chance the end of the month is here yet?  <img src='http://commoncoretools.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Or is there any chance I could steal a glance at the k-2 portion?  I am ready to begin writing a unit of study for 1st grade geometry and would love to read and study this before I begin.  <img src='http://commoncoretools.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1909</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2012 02:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leandra, thanks so much for posting this, it helps me enormously when others chime in if they have an answer!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leandra, thanks so much for posting this, it helps me enormously when others chime in if they have an answer!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Chantelle</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1908</link>
		<dc:creator>Chantelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2012 01:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Leandra!
I am excited about the focus on numbers and operations in the K-5 standards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Leandra!<br />
I am excited about the focus on numbers and operations in the K-5 standards.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Leandra</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1907</link>
		<dc:creator>Leandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2012 01:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chantelle, 
I asked Dr. McCallum this same question via email before he provided this stream on his blog. This was his reply, 

&quot;Dear Leandra,
Throughout K-5 the standards carve out room for a focus on number and operations by limiting the spread of other topics, and that&#039;s why capacity is not mentioned. Of course there are many contexts in which children might learn about gallons, pints, quarts, etc., including the home, and that which is not mentioned in the standards is not thereby forbidden, so teachers might well choose to use them as examples if they think the class is familiar with them. But the standards do not require class time to be spent on them.

Regards,

Bill McCallum&quot;

Hope this helps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chantelle,<br />
I asked Dr. McCallum this same question via email before he provided this stream on his blog. This was his reply, </p>
<p>&#8220;Dear Leandra,<br />
Throughout K-5 the standards carve out room for a focus on number and operations by limiting the spread of other topics, and that&#8217;s why capacity is not mentioned. Of course there are many contexts in which children might learn about gallons, pints, quarts, etc., including the home, and that which is not mentioned in the standards is not thereby forbidden, so teachers might well choose to use them as examples if they think the class is familiar with them. But the standards do not require class time to be spent on them.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Bill McCallum&#8221;</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Examples of structure in the content standards by Jason Zimba&#8217;s &#8220;wiring diagram&#8221; &#124; Tools for the Common Core Standards</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/07/06/examples-of-structure-in-the-content-standards/#comment-1906</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Zimba&#8217;s &#8220;wiring diagram&#8221; &#124; Tools for the Common Core Standards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2012 00:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the article by Jason Zimba that I posted here, there were glimpses of a diagram showing connections between standards. A lot of people have asked [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Chantelle</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1904</link>
		<dc:creator>Chantelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am struggling with what liquid capacity measurement units should be taught in 4th and 5th grade. Third grade liquid capacity measurement units are clear, mL and liters. 4th and 5th grade COULD include customary liquid measurement. North Carolina &quot;unpacked&quot; the standards by including gallons, quarts, pints, etc. Arizona&#039;s &quot;unpacking&quot; documents do not include the customary units for liquid capacity in these grades. Please help guide me in interpreting the CCSS intent with what liquid capacity units students should learn in 4th and 5th grade about. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am struggling with what liquid capacity measurement units should be taught in 4th and 5th grade. Third grade liquid capacity measurement units are clear, mL and liters. 4th and 5th grade COULD include customary liquid measurement. North Carolina &#8220;unpacked&#8221; the standards by including gallons, quarts, pints, etc. Arizona&#8217;s &#8220;unpacking&#8221; documents do not include the customary units for liquid capacity in these grades. Please help guide me in interpreting the CCSS intent with what liquid capacity units students should learn in 4th and 5th grade about. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Cece Tillman</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1902</link>
		<dc:creator>Cece Tillman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 20:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On page 23 of the OA progression document for Elementary, the Compare problem examples in the bottom row are very confusing. Are these problems intended to represent the &quot;1/5 as much&quot; type of language that is taught in 5th grade? Because no values are in them, it is difficult to decipher the intent of &quot;A as much as the blue hat&quot;. Could you clarify this language with an example including numbers? Each of these 3 types- Smaller unknown, Larger unknown and Multiplier unknown are all 5th grade we think. Could you clarify?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On page 23 of the OA progression document for Elementary, the Compare problem examples in the bottom row are very confusing. Are these problems intended to represent the &#8220;1/5 as much&#8221; type of language that is taught in 5th grade? Because no values are in them, it is difficult to decipher the intent of &#8220;A as much as the blue hat&#8221;. Could you clarify this language with an example including numbers? Each of these 3 types- Smaller unknown, Larger unknown and Multiplier unknown are all 5th grade we think. Could you clarify?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1899</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 01:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, there is no fixed scheme such as the one suggested above, although often there is some attempt to arrange the standards in an order that &quot;tell the story&quot; of the cluster, so to speak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, there is no fixed scheme such as the one suggested above, although often there is some attempt to arrange the standards in an order that &#8220;tell the story&#8221; of the cluster, so to speak.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Gretchen Muller</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1898</link>
		<dc:creator>Gretchen Muller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 23:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I received this inquiry today. Can anyone help? Thanks, Gretchen

Do you know if the standards in a given math cluster are in a progression? 
For example  is 1, foundational to 2. etc..  
We want to know the intent of the authors here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received this inquiry today. Can anyone help? Thanks, Gretchen</p>
<p>Do you know if the standards in a given math cluster are in a progression?<br />
For example  is 1, foundational to 2. etc..<br />
We want to know the intent of the authors here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression on Ratios and Proportional Relationships by Cathy Kessel</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/09/12/progression-on-ratios-and-proportional-reasoning/#comment-1897</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Kessel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 18:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note that the term &quot;unit rate&quot; comes from math education research where &quot;unit rate&quot; and &quot;unit rate strategy&quot; are used to describe what students do in solving problems rather than as part of the mathematics to be taught. For example, some researchers distinguish between a &quot;building up strategy&quot; that uses additive structure as opposed to a &quot;unit rate strategy&quot; that uses multiplicative structure. (See p. 4 of the RP Progression for illustration of these structures--but not the strategies. These are illustrated in the upper right sidebar on p. 6.) My Singapore teachers manual for primary 5B gives a unit rate strategy that it calls &quot;the unitary method&quot; (perhaps a better name). 

Here are examples of how &quot;unit rate&quot; has been used various kinds of documents--not always with quite the same meaning. I&#039;ve organized them in two groups. 

Group 1: unit rate has no units.

1A. Grade 7 from NCTM Focal Points (2006): http://www.nctmmedia.org/cfp/focal_points_by_grade.pdf

Number and Operations and Algebra and Geometry: . . . . Students graph proportional relationships and identify the unit rate as the slope of the related line. They distinguish proportional relationships (y/x = k, or y = kx) from other relationships, including inverse proportionality (xy = k, or y = k/x).

1B. Susan Lamon&#039;s book Teaching Fractions and Ratios For Understanding (2nd edition, 2008), p. 195: &quot;Note that all of the rates in this class are equivalent and that they reduce to 1.5/1, the unit rate, the cost per pound.&quot; http://books.google.com/books?id=nx41Iqe1PSwC&amp;lpg=PA196&amp;ots=aWGoT0S8Q8&amp;dq=%22unit%20rate%22%20lamon&amp;pg=PA195#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false

Group 2: unit rate has units.

2A. But on p. 192, Lamon writes: &quot;the unit rate is 6 mph.&quot;

2B. Connected Math: Vocabulary: Comparing and Scaling: http://connectedmath.msu.edu/parents/help/7/comparing_concept.pdf

Unit rates: are ratio statements of one quantity per one unit of the other quantity. Any given ratio can be rewritten as 2 different unit rate
statements, though one of these may make more sense in the given context.

2C. Connected Math Pearson Prentice Hall video: http://www.phschool.com/atschool/academy123/english/academy123_content/wl-book-demo/ph-890s.html

A unit rate is the rate for one unit of a given quantity. [example: . . . . The unit rate would be 25 mi/gal.]

Example 2C raises the question: &quot;What&#039;s the difference between a rate and a unit rate?&quot; (Note that CCSS does not ask that students use derived units such as mi/gal until high school.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that the term &#8220;unit rate&#8221; comes from math education research where &#8220;unit rate&#8221; and &#8220;unit rate strategy&#8221; are used to describe what students do in solving problems rather than as part of the mathematics to be taught. For example, some researchers distinguish between a &#8220;building up strategy&#8221; that uses additive structure as opposed to a &#8220;unit rate strategy&#8221; that uses multiplicative structure. (See p. 4 of the RP Progression for illustration of these structures&#8211;but not the strategies. These are illustrated in the upper right sidebar on p. 6.) My Singapore teachers manual for primary 5B gives a unit rate strategy that it calls &#8220;the unitary method&#8221; (perhaps a better name). </p>
<p>Here are examples of how &#8220;unit rate&#8221; has been used various kinds of documents&#8211;not always with quite the same meaning. I&#8217;ve organized them in two groups. </p>
<p>Group 1: unit rate has no units.</p>
<p>1A. Grade 7 from NCTM Focal Points (2006): <a href="http://www.nctmmedia.org/cfp/focal_points_by_grade.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.nctmmedia.org/cfp/focal_points_by_grade.pdf</a></p>
<p>Number and Operations and Algebra and Geometry: . . . . Students graph proportional relationships and identify the unit rate as the slope of the related line. They distinguish proportional relationships (y/x = k, or y = kx) from other relationships, including inverse proportionality (xy = k, or y = k/x).</p>
<p>1B. Susan Lamon&#8217;s book Teaching Fractions and Ratios For Understanding (2nd edition, 2008), p. 195: &#8220;Note that all of the rates in this class are equivalent and that they reduce to 1.5/1, the unit rate, the cost per pound.&#8221; <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=nx41Iqe1PSwC&#038;lpg=PA196&#038;ots=aWGoT0S8Q8&#038;dq=%22unit%20rate%22%20lamon&#038;pg=PA195#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/books?id=nx41Iqe1PSwC&#038;lpg=PA196&#038;ots=aWGoT0S8Q8&#038;dq=%22unit%20rate%22%20lamon&#038;pg=PA195#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false</a></p>
<p>Group 2: unit rate has units.</p>
<p>2A. But on p. 192, Lamon writes: &#8220;the unit rate is 6 mph.&#8221;</p>
<p>2B. Connected Math: Vocabulary: Comparing and Scaling: <a href="http://connectedmath.msu.edu/parents/help/7/comparing_concept.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://connectedmath.msu.edu/parents/help/7/comparing_concept.pdf</a></p>
<p>Unit rates: are ratio statements of one quantity per one unit of the other quantity. Any given ratio can be rewritten as 2 different unit rate<br />
statements, though one of these may make more sense in the given context.</p>
<p>2C. Connected Math Pearson Prentice Hall video: <a href="http://www.phschool.com/atschool/academy123/english/academy123_content/wl-book-demo/ph-890s.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.phschool.com/atschool/academy123/english/academy123_content/wl-book-demo/ph-890s.html</a></p>
<p>A unit rate is the rate for one unit of a given quantity. [example: . . . . The unit rate would be 25 mi/gal.]</p>
<p>Example 2C raises the question: &#8220;What&#8217;s the difference between a rate and a unit rate?&#8221; (Note that CCSS does not ask that students use derived units such as mi/gal until high school.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Janice</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1894</link>
		<dc:creator>Janice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Continuing on the subject of geometry...
G.CO.2 discusses using functional notation to describe transformations and G.CO.6 discusses using geometric descriptions of rigid motions to transform figures and predict effects of a rigid motion on a given figure. Specifically what is the difference between the two different modes of description? Is it as simple as using the terms &quot;reflect&quot;, &quot;rotate&quot;, &quot;translate&quot;, or &quot;dialate&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continuing on the subject of geometry&#8230;<br />
G.CO.2 discusses using functional notation to describe transformations and G.CO.6 discusses using geometric descriptions of rigid motions to transform figures and predict effects of a rigid motion on a given figure. Specifically what is the difference between the two different modes of description? Is it as simple as using the terms &#8220;reflect&#8221;, &#8220;rotate&#8221;, &#8220;translate&#8221;, or &#8220;dialate&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Expressions and Equations by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/25/draft-of-progressions-on-expressions-and-equations/#comment-1893</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 14:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Christopher, do you have a suggested fix? I&#039;m guessing you are worried about the second part, &quot;terms may be grouped together in any order,&quot; which could be interpreted as saying something like 3 - 5 + 4 can be calculated either as (3 - 5) + 4 or 3 - (5 + 4). What I had in mind when I wrote this is that the terms in this case are 3, -5, and 4, but the internet does not support me in this usage. Which is weird, because nobody calls 4 a factor in 3÷4. But never mind. Maybe the easiest fix is to say &quot;addends may be grouped together in any order&quot;. And then perhaps add a note that at some stage students learn to see a sequences of additions and subtractions as a sequence of additions with negative terms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Christopher, do you have a suggested fix? I&#8217;m guessing you are worried about the second part, &#8220;terms may be grouped together in any order,&#8221; which could be interpreted as saying something like 3 &#8211; 5 + 4 can be calculated either as (3 &#8211; 5) + 4 or 3 &#8211; (5 + 4). What I had in mind when I wrote this is that the terms in this case are 3, -5, and 4, but the internet does not support me in this usage. Which is weird, because nobody calls 4 a factor in 3÷4. But never mind. Maybe the easiest fix is to say &#8220;addends may be grouped together in any order&#8221;. And then perhaps add a note that at some stage students learn to see a sequences of additions and subtractions as a sequence of additions with negative terms.</p>
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		<dc:creator>I don&#8217;t think they mean that &#124; Overthinking my teaching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the Common Core State Standards Progressions document on the 6—8 Expressions and Equations standards: The “any order, any grouping” property is a [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Scott Lape</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1889</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Lape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a question about G-CO.7. It seems like what the standard asks is something like this: Start with this axiom: &quot;Two plane figures are congruent if and only if one can be mapped to the other by a series of rigid motions.&quot; And maybe a definition: &quot;A rigid motion is a transformation that preserves distance and angle measure.&quot; And possibly another axiom: &quot;If two plane figures have corresponding sides and angles congruent, there exists a (rigid) transformation from one to the other.&quot; And from those starting points, you can deduce that triangles are congruent if and only if corresponding sides and angles are congruent. Is that the essential idea of this standard, or am I missing something? 
And then is the thinking behind G-SRT.3 along the same lines?
Thanks very much for any help or thoughts on this!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question about G-CO.7. It seems like what the standard asks is something like this: Start with this axiom: &#8220;Two plane figures are congruent if and only if one can be mapped to the other by a series of rigid motions.&#8221; And maybe a definition: &#8220;A rigid motion is a transformation that preserves distance and angle measure.&#8221; And possibly another axiom: &#8220;If two plane figures have corresponding sides and angles congruent, there exists a (rigid) transformation from one to the other.&#8221; And from those starting points, you can deduce that triangles are congruent if and only if corresponding sides and angles are congruent. Is that the essential idea of this standard, or am I missing something?<br />
And then is the thinking behind G-SRT.3 along the same lines?<br />
Thanks very much for any help or thoughts on this!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Eleanore Livesey</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1888</link>
		<dc:creator>Eleanore Livesey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am glad to hear that but a question I have relates to 6.G.2 which refers to the volume of a right rectangular prism. It states &quot;Find the volume of a right rectangular prism with fractional edge lengths by packing it with unit cubes of the appropriate unit fraction edge lengths, and show that the volume is the same as would be found  by multiplying the edge lengths of the prism. Apply the formulas v=lwh and V=Bh to find the volume of right rectangular prisms with fractional edge lengths in the context of real-world problems&quot;.

Since it says apply the formulas does that mean that a student might be given the volume and two sides and be asked to find the other side? Also if it is a cube would they then be expected to find the cube root to determine the side given the volume? I would appreeciate hearing your thoughts on this matter as it has been brought to my attention by a sixth grade teacher. The Model Content Frameworks and the Illustrative Mathematics websites do help but we need more examples to clarify the depth of knowledge needed at each level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad to hear that but a question I have relates to 6.G.2 which refers to the volume of a right rectangular prism. It states &#8220;Find the volume of a right rectangular prism with fractional edge lengths by packing it with unit cubes of the appropriate unit fraction edge lengths, and show that the volume is the same as would be found  by multiplying the edge lengths of the prism. Apply the formulas v=lwh and V=Bh to find the volume of right rectangular prisms with fractional edge lengths in the context of real-world problems&#8221;.</p>
<p>Since it says apply the formulas does that mean that a student might be given the volume and two sides and be asked to find the other side? Also if it is a cube would they then be expected to find the cube root to determine the side given the volume? I would appreeciate hearing your thoughts on this matter as it has been brought to my attention by a sixth grade teacher. The Model Content Frameworks and the Illustrative Mathematics websites do help but we need more examples to clarify the depth of knowledge needed at each level.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-1887</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 18:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Brad for pointing out this link! I&#039;ll answer a few of Elizabeth&#039;s questions here that might not be addressed exactly in that link. 

First, on simplification. The last sentence of the following standard is relevant here:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
4.NF.1. Explain why a fraction $latex a/b$ is equivalent to a fraction $latex (n\times a)/(n\times b)$ by using visual fraction models, with attention to how the number and size of the parts differ even though the two fractions themselves are the same size. Use this principle to recognize and generate equivalent fractions.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
In both your examples it is reasonable to expect students to try to make sense of their answers by expressing them as 2/3 and 2 1/2, for the reasons you give. Thus, there is support in the standards for the answer you want.

On least common denominators, I think the other thread has most of what I want to say. I would just point out that the same principle as above applies to the answer 360/72; students are expected to make sense of their answers, in this case by finding an equivalent fraction that expresses better how many pies there are. Also, it&#039;s not obvious to me that the extra efficiency of finding the least common denominator is worth the time taken in the curriculum by teaching it as a general method. And, as I said elsewhere, it is certainly not forbidden that students see and use that shortcut here.

On mixed numbers: the method you suggest for adding 4 5/16, 2 1/16, and 3 7 /16 is exactly what is intended by the phrase &quot;using the properties of operations&quot;. Namely, students should see 4 5/16 as $latex 4 + 5/16$, etc., and then your method of adding the whole numbers first and then the fractions is just the principle that you can add numbers in any order and any grouping (commutative and associate laws of addition, although it is not necessary to use those terms). I completely agree that method is preferable.

For your last example, I agree that students should see that 24/8 = 3. Another relevant standard here, and also for the pie problem, is
&lt;blockquote&gt;
5.NF.3 Interpret a fraction as division of the numerator by the denominator (a/b=a÷b). Solve word problems involving division of whole numbers leading to answers in the form of fractions or mixed numbers, e.g., by using visual fraction models or equations to represent the problem.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Students should see that 24/8 is 24 divided by 8, and therefore 3 (from their knowledge of multiplication facts).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Brad for pointing out this link! I&#8217;ll answer a few of Elizabeth&#8217;s questions here that might not be addressed exactly in that link. </p>
<p>First, on simplification. The last sentence of the following standard is relevant here:</p>
<blockquote><p>
4.NF.1. Explain why a fraction <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=a%2Fb&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="a/b" title="a/b" class="latex" /> is equivalent to a fraction <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=%28n%5Ctimes+a%29%2F%28n%5Ctimes+b%29&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="(n&#92;times a)/(n&#92;times b)" title="(n&#92;times a)/(n&#92;times b)" class="latex" /> by using visual fraction models, with attention to how the number and size of the parts differ even though the two fractions themselves are the same size. Use this principle to recognize and generate equivalent fractions.
</p></blockquote>
<p>In both your examples it is reasonable to expect students to try to make sense of their answers by expressing them as 2/3 and 2 1/2, for the reasons you give. Thus, there is support in the standards for the answer you want.</p>
<p>On least common denominators, I think the other thread has most of what I want to say. I would just point out that the same principle as above applies to the answer 360/72; students are expected to make sense of their answers, in this case by finding an equivalent fraction that expresses better how many pies there are. Also, it&#8217;s not obvious to me that the extra efficiency of finding the least common denominator is worth the time taken in the curriculum by teaching it as a general method. And, as I said elsewhere, it is certainly not forbidden that students see and use that shortcut here.</p>
<p>On mixed numbers: the method you suggest for adding 4 5/16, 2 1/16, and 3 7 /16 is exactly what is intended by the phrase &#8220;using the properties of operations&#8221;. Namely, students should see 4 5/16 as <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=4+%2B+5%2F16&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="4 + 5/16" title="4 + 5/16" class="latex" />, etc., and then your method of adding the whole numbers first and then the fractions is just the principle that you can add numbers in any order and any grouping (commutative and associate laws of addition, although it is not necessary to use those terms). I completely agree that method is preferable.</p>
<p>For your last example, I agree that students should see that 24/8 = 3. Another relevant standard here, and also for the pie problem, is</p>
<blockquote><p>
5.NF.3 Interpret a fraction as division of the numerator by the denominator (a/b=a÷b). Solve word problems involving division of whole numbers leading to answers in the form of fractions or mixed numbers, e.g., by using visual fraction models or equations to represent the problem.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Students should see that 24/8 is 24 divided by 8, and therefore 3 (from their knowledge of multiplication facts).</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1885</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an error in the progression document: see the discussion here: http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-1570]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an error in the progression document: see the discussion here: <a href="http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-1570" rel="nofollow">http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-1570</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by oemb1905</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1884</link>
		<dc:creator>oemb1905</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your response.  That was my suspicion, namely, that it was being phased-out, usurped, replaced, etc.  So ...

Here is what I did:  I went through and combined some of the more advanced 7th grade domains, cluster headings, and content standards with those of 8th.  I left behind about 6 cluster headings that seemed more basic and 6th grade-based.  I inserted those into the 8th grade year-at-a-glance and then grouped them according to Major, Supporting, and Additional topics, under the following assumptions:  1) Students will be assigned a one-year Pre-Algebra class so it needs to contain curriculum that can be covered in one year.  2) Pre-Algebra may eventually be phased-out, re-named, or usurped, however, until then it seems that the &quot;basic&quot; framework for 7th grade and that of 8th most closely resembles what is traditionally taught in such classes.  

Here is what resulted:

Unit 1:  Real Numbers
     - Analyze proportional relationships and use them to solve real-world and mathematical problems. (Reinforcement from 7th grade)
     - Know that there are numbers that are not rational, and approximate them by rational numbers. (Reinforcement from 8th grade) 
     - Apply and extend previous understandings of operations with fractions to add, subtract, multiply, and divide rational numbers. (Reinforcement from 7th grade)
     - Solve real-life and mathematical problems using numerical and algebraic expressions and equations.  (Reinforcement from 7th grade)
     - Work with radicals and integer exponents. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)

Unit 2:  Pythagorean Theorem
     - Solve real-life and mathematical problems involving angle measure, area, surface area, and volume. (Reinforcement from 7th grade)
     - Understand and apply the Pythagorean Theorem. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)

Unit 3:  Congruence and Similarity
     - Understand congruence and similarity using physical models, transparencies, or geometry software. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)
Unit 4:  Linear Relationships
     - Understand the connections between proportional relationships, lines, and linear equations. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)
     - Analyze and solve linear equations and pairs of simultaneous linear equations. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)
     - Define, evaluate, and compare functions. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)
     - Use functions to model relationships between quantities. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)

Unit 5:  Systems of Linear Relationships
     - Define, evaluate, and compare functions. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)
     - Use functions to model relationships between quantities. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)
Unit 6:  Volume
     - Solve real-world and mathematical problems involving volume of cylinders, cones, and spheres.
Unit 7: Patterns in Data
     - Investigate chance processes and develop, use, and evaluate probability models. (7th grade required)

Now, there could be an argument made for dropping some 8th grade cluster headings, and adding some 6th grade cluster headings, or vice versa, however, we chose to keep it this large and then on the Year-At-A-Glance file we developed to group the ideas according to importance as stated above, ie., Major, Supporting, Additional.  Mr. McCallum, what do you think?

Thanks,
Jonathan Haack]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your response.  That was my suspicion, namely, that it was being phased-out, usurped, replaced, etc.  So &#8230;</p>
<p>Here is what I did:  I went through and combined some of the more advanced 7th grade domains, cluster headings, and content standards with those of 8th.  I left behind about 6 cluster headings that seemed more basic and 6th grade-based.  I inserted those into the 8th grade year-at-a-glance and then grouped them according to Major, Supporting, and Additional topics, under the following assumptions:  1) Students will be assigned a one-year Pre-Algebra class so it needs to contain curriculum that can be covered in one year.  2) Pre-Algebra may eventually be phased-out, re-named, or usurped, however, until then it seems that the &#8220;basic&#8221; framework for 7th grade and that of 8th most closely resembles what is traditionally taught in such classes.  </p>
<p>Here is what resulted:</p>
<p>Unit 1:  Real Numbers<br />
     &#8211; Analyze proportional relationships and use them to solve real-world and mathematical problems. (Reinforcement from 7th grade)<br />
     &#8211; Know that there are numbers that are not rational, and approximate them by rational numbers. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)<br />
     &#8211; Apply and extend previous understandings of operations with fractions to add, subtract, multiply, and divide rational numbers. (Reinforcement from 7th grade)<br />
     &#8211; Solve real-life and mathematical problems using numerical and algebraic expressions and equations.  (Reinforcement from 7th grade)<br />
     &#8211; Work with radicals and integer exponents. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)</p>
<p>Unit 2:  Pythagorean Theorem<br />
     &#8211; Solve real-life and mathematical problems involving angle measure, area, surface area, and volume. (Reinforcement from 7th grade)<br />
     &#8211; Understand and apply the Pythagorean Theorem. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)</p>
<p>Unit 3:  Congruence and Similarity<br />
     &#8211; Understand congruence and similarity using physical models, transparencies, or geometry software. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)<br />
Unit 4:  Linear Relationships<br />
     &#8211; Understand the connections between proportional relationships, lines, and linear equations. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)<br />
     &#8211; Analyze and solve linear equations and pairs of simultaneous linear equations. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)<br />
     &#8211; Define, evaluate, and compare functions. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)<br />
     &#8211; Use functions to model relationships between quantities. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)</p>
<p>Unit 5:  Systems of Linear Relationships<br />
     &#8211; Define, evaluate, and compare functions. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)<br />
     &#8211; Use functions to model relationships between quantities. (Reinforcement from 8th grade)<br />
Unit 6:  Volume<br />
     &#8211; Solve real-world and mathematical problems involving volume of cylinders, cones, and spheres.<br />
Unit 7: Patterns in Data<br />
     &#8211; Investigate chance processes and develop, use, and evaluate probability models. (7th grade required)</p>
<p>Now, there could be an argument made for dropping some 8th grade cluster headings, and adding some 6th grade cluster headings, or vice versa, however, we chose to keep it this large and then on the Year-At-A-Glance file we developed to group the ideas according to importance as stated above, ie., Major, Supporting, Additional.  Mr. McCallum, what do you think?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Jonathan Haack</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1883</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. McCallum, we are currently creating our curriculum maps and are confused when we compare fraction common core standards for adding fractions in fourth grade to the progressions in 4th/5th grade on this subject.  The common core standards in fourth grade state:  use numbers with common denominators; yet, when we read the beginning of the fifth grade progression on this topic, it indicates that &quot;In Grade 4, students calculate sums of fractions with different denominators where one denominator is a divisor of the other.&quot;  Is this only with the abstract study of the numbers - composing and decomposing? We&#039;re confused.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. McCallum, we are currently creating our curriculum maps and are confused when we compare fraction common core standards for adding fractions in fourth grade to the progressions in 4th/5th grade on this subject.  The common core standards in fourth grade state:  use numbers with common denominators; yet, when we read the beginning of the fifth grade progression on this topic, it indicates that &#8220;In Grade 4, students calculate sums of fractions with different denominators where one denominator is a divisor of the other.&#8221;  Is this only with the abstract study of the numbers &#8211; composing and decomposing? We&#8217;re confused.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1882</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grades 6-8 were designed as a ramp up to high school algebra; they constitute a designed preparation for algebra (also geometry and statistics and probability), and so the make the notion of Pre-Algebra obsolete. But if you have to give an answer, I guess the closest thing to what you want would be the Accelerated 7th Grade in Appendix A, or maybe you could say that Pre-Algebra is just embedded in Grades 6–8 (or in accelerated Grades 6–7). Although I haven&#039;t looked carefully enough to be sure about this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grades 6-8 were designed as a ramp up to high school algebra; they constitute a designed preparation for algebra (also geometry and statistics and probability), and so the make the notion of Pre-Algebra obsolete. But if you have to give an answer, I guess the closest thing to what you want would be the Accelerated 7th Grade in Appendix A, or maybe you could say that Pre-Algebra is just embedded in Grades 6–8 (or in accelerated Grades 6–7). Although I haven&#8217;t looked carefully enough to be sure about this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1881</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both good questions. There is no one fixed scheme for interpreting the lettered statements in a standard, it really depends on the context. I can think of examples where both your interpretations are correct. 

A-SSE.3 is an example of your first interpretation. In that case, the stem &quot;Choose and produce an equivalent form of an expression to reveal and explain properties of the quantity represented by the expression&quot; can apply to any expression students might encounter; the lettered statements make specific ties to quadratic and exponential expressions, but do not limit the standard to those. 

8.G.1 is an example of your second interpretation. The stem says &quot; Verify experimentally the properties of rotations, reflections, and translations&quot;, and then the lettered statements list the properties. 

K.CC.4, the example you have given, fits somewhere between the two. I would not say that the stem of the standard is additional to the lettered statements, but neither would I say it summarizes them. Rather, it is a higher level statement that cannot be reduced to them; it holds them together in a certain way. An activity designed to assess this standard might operate at that higher level; see, for example, http://illustrativemathematics.org/illustrations/447, which operates at the level of the cluster heading. The lettered statements give the teacher things to look for during the course of this activity.

These varying interpretations of the lettered statements pose a challenge to assessment, of course, but it is the challenge inherent in trying to preserve in the standards themselves some of the complexity of the knowledge structures they describe.

On subitizing: it&#039;s hard to imagine what a standard would look like. Subitizing is something that kids do naturally, as the progression describes, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a required performance at any particular stage, although presumably kids who can&#039;t do it will eventually run into trouble with one or another of the performances that &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; required.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both good questions. There is no one fixed scheme for interpreting the lettered statements in a standard, it really depends on the context. I can think of examples where both your interpretations are correct. </p>
<p>A-SSE.3 is an example of your first interpretation. In that case, the stem &#8220;Choose and produce an equivalent form of an expression to reveal and explain properties of the quantity represented by the expression&#8221; can apply to any expression students might encounter; the lettered statements make specific ties to quadratic and exponential expressions, but do not limit the standard to those. </p>
<p>8.G.1 is an example of your second interpretation. The stem says &#8221; Verify experimentally the properties of rotations, reflections, and translations&#8221;, and then the lettered statements list the properties. </p>
<p>K.CC.4, the example you have given, fits somewhere between the two. I would not say that the stem of the standard is additional to the lettered statements, but neither would I say it summarizes them. Rather, it is a higher level statement that cannot be reduced to them; it holds them together in a certain way. An activity designed to assess this standard might operate at that higher level; see, for example, <a href="http://illustrativemathematics.org/illustrations/447" rel="nofollow">http://illustrativemathematics.org/illustrations/447</a>, which operates at the level of the cluster heading. The lettered statements give the teacher things to look for during the course of this activity.</p>
<p>These varying interpretations of the lettered statements pose a challenge to assessment, of course, but it is the challenge inherent in trying to preserve in the standards themselves some of the complexity of the knowledge structures they describe.</p>
<p>On subitizing: it&#8217;s hard to imagine what a standard would look like. Subitizing is something that kids do naturally, as the progression describes, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a required performance at any particular stage, although presumably kids who can&#8217;t do it will eventually run into trouble with one or another of the performances that <em>are</em> required.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Brad Burkman</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-1880</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Burkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elizabeth, 
There&#039;s a long discussion of this topic, with some responses already from Dr. McCallum, at the &quot;General Questions about the Standards&quot; site.  Find &quot;denominators&quot; if you don&#039;t want to scroll through the whole thing.  

http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comments]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth,<br />
There&#8217;s a long discussion of this topic, with some responses already from Dr. McCallum, at the &#8220;General Questions about the Standards&#8221; site.  Find &#8220;denominators&#8221; if you don&#8217;t want to scroll through the whole thing.  </p>
<p><a href="http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comments</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The data part of the Measurement and Data Progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/06/20/the-data-part-of-the-measurement-and-data-progression/#comment-1879</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess the student has to show in some way or another how they chose the placement of data points, and this is one way to do it. But I wouldn&#039;t make that a hard and fast rule; you could also have the line marked in fourths, with one smaller tick mark halfway between 0 and 1/4.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the student has to show in some way or another how they chose the placement of data points, and this is one way to do it. But I wouldn&#8217;t make that a hard and fast rule; you could also have the line marked in fourths, with one smaller tick mark halfway between 0 and 1/4.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1877</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dennis, de Moivre&#039;s theorem is part of what is meant here. It is geometric in the sense that it viewed a saying something about the angle in the complex plane between the positive real axis and the ray from the origin to the complex number. Namely, it says that these angles add when you multiply the numbers. The other piece is that the scaling of the magnitude; that is, the magnitude of the product is the product of the magnitudes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis, de Moivre&#8217;s theorem is part of what is meant here. It is geometric in the sense that it viewed a saying something about the angle in the complex plane between the positive real axis and the ray from the origin to the complex number. Namely, it says that these angles add when you multiply the numbers. The other piece is that the scaling of the magnitude; that is, the magnitude of the product is the product of the magnitudes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-1875</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doug, good catch, but I think you have old PDF of the standards, these typos have been fixed in the version at corestandards.org. Also, although it&#039;s true that this will often be applied with $latex x$ in the first quadrant, that&#039;s not necessary mathematically, and we want students to know these functional relationships hold for all $latex x$.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, good catch, but I think you have old PDF of the standards, these typos have been fixed in the version at corestandards.org. Also, although it&#8217;s true that this will often be applied with <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=x&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="x" title="x" class="latex" /> in the first quadrant, that&#8217;s not necessary mathematically, and we want students to know these functional relationships hold for all <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=x&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="x" title="x" class="latex" />.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft high school Statistics and Probability progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/21/draft-high-school-statistics-and-probability-progression/#comment-1874</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 11:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Central Limit Theorem is beyond the scope of the standards. The value of simulation is that it shows the theorem in action. Students who have some experience with simulation may be in a position to better understand the theorem when they encounter it later. Also, the simulations can be run by technology. So, running 200 simulations could be as simple as dragging a row in Excel down 200 times, or evn more automated than that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Central Limit Theorem is beyond the scope of the standards. The value of simulation is that it shows the theorem in action. Students who have some experience with simulation may be in a position to better understand the theorem when they encounter it later. Also, the simulations can be run by technology. So, running 200 simulations could be as simple as dragging a row in Excel down 200 times, or evn more automated than that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1871</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The key here is to note the previous cluster heading, &quot;Understand congruence in terms of transformations.&quot; You can prove that corresponding angles are congruent by, for example, performing a translation along the direction of the transversal. You still have to assume something, of course, namely the fact that the translation of an angle is a congruent angle; the fundamental properties of transformations are taken as the postulates. (See 8.G.1 for the foundations of this.) And you have to have already established that a translation of a line is a parallel line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key here is to note the previous cluster heading, &#8220;Understand congruence in terms of transformations.&#8221; You can prove that corresponding angles are congruent by, for example, performing a translation along the direction of the transversal. You still have to assume something, of course, namely the fact that the translation of an angle is a congruent angle; the fundamental properties of transformations are taken as the postulates. (See 8.G.1 for the foundations of this.) And you have to have already established that a translation of a line is a parallel line.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Leandra</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1870</link>
		<dc:creator>Leandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amber, I don&#039;t think that a standard exists that specifically focuses on fraction/decimal/percent as we have traditionally seen this in the past. Instead this is replaced with a deep understanding of how decimals relate to fractions in standard 4.NF.6 and then coming back in standard 6.RP.3c with a deep understanding of percent as a rate per 100 (30% of a quantity is 30/100 times the quantity). 

The students will end up with a deep understanding of what decimals are and what percent means and will then be able to see relationships between the three forms of number.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amber, I don&#8217;t think that a standard exists that specifically focuses on fraction/decimal/percent as we have traditionally seen this in the past. Instead this is replaced with a deep understanding of how decimals relate to fractions in standard 4.NF.6 and then coming back in standard 6.RP.3c with a deep understanding of percent as a rate per 100 (30% of a quantity is 30/100 times the quantity). </p>
<p>The students will end up with a deep understanding of what decimals are and what percent means and will then be able to see relationships between the three forms of number.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Elizabeth Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 17:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. McCallum, I have a few questions concerning 8th grade Transformations, Congruence, and Similarity Standards. 
1) Will students need to rotate around a point other than the origin?
2) Will students need to reflect across any line other than the x-axis, y-axis, y=x, and y=-x?
3) Will students need to dilate using a center point other than (0,0)?
We are in the process of writing units and wanted to make sure we were covering the rigor required by the standards.
Thank you for assistance.
Elizabeth]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. McCallum, I have a few questions concerning 8th grade Transformations, Congruence, and Similarity Standards.<br />
1) Will students need to rotate around a point other than the origin?<br />
2) Will students need to reflect across any line other than the x-axis, y-axis, y=x, and y=-x?<br />
3) Will students need to dilate using a center point other than (0,0)?<br />
We are in the process of writing units and wanted to make sure we were covering the rigor required by the standards.<br />
Thank you for assistance.<br />
Elizabeth</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Amber A. Hurley</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1866</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber A. Hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 15:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m planning for the upcoming school year and I notice there&#039;s no mention of fraction-decimal-percent conversions in the upper elementary and middle grades standards...any suggestions as to when this should be introduced and studied in depth? My state taught this thoroughly in 5th grade before the onset of CCSS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m planning for the upcoming school year and I notice there&#8217;s no mention of fraction-decimal-percent conversions in the upper elementary and middle grades standards&#8230;any suggestions as to when this should be introduced and studied in depth? My state taught this thoroughly in 5th grade before the onset of CCSS.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Elizabeth Appelbaum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-1857</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Appelbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 02:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have taught or tutored mathematics at all levels, grade school through graduate school. I have a Ph.D. in mathematics. Most of my students need more knowledge of fractions. The Common Core standards omit the simplification of fractions. How do you measure 22/33 cup of milk? A standard measure is 2/3 cup. Suppose you want to convert 150 minutes to hours. The result is 150/60 hours, perhaps not a useful measure. Simplifying, you get 5/2 or, better, 2 ½ hours.

For adding and subtracting fractions, Common Core says
•  5.NF.1. Add and subtract fractions with unlike denominators (including mixed numbers) by replacing given fractions with equivalent fractions in such a way as to produce an equivalent sum or difference of fractions with like denominators. For example, 2/3 + 5/4 = 8/12 + 15/12 = 23/12. (In general, a/b + c/d = (ad + bc)/bd.)

This algorithm is not efficient when adding three or more fractions.  Here is a sample problem from a test given to people joining the military:  &quot;A baker made 20 pies. A Boy Scout troop buys one-fourth of this pies, a preschool teacher buys one-third of his pies, and a caterer buys one-sixth of his pies. How many pies does the baker have left? (reference below)&quot;
With Common Core, you multiply all the denominators, getting 72, and add like this:
	1/4  + 1/3 + 1/6 = (18 + 24 + 12)/72 = 54/72. 
So 18/72 of the pies remain, and 20 * 18/72 = 360/72, not an acceptable answer on this test.

The Standards omit least common denominator, which is 12 in this example. Using it, the calculation becomes:

	(3 + 4 + 2)/12 = 9/12 = ¾.  So ¼ of the pies remain, and ¼ * 20 = 5, the correct answer.
Without the least common denominator, the calculation is slower and more likely to have mistakes; the result is unsimplified. The Standards include least common multiple, but why teach this idea and leave out its main use, least common denominator?    

For mixed numbers, the standards say:

4.NF.3
Add and subtract mixed numbers with like denominators, e.g., by replacing each mixed number with an equivalent fraction, and/or by using properties of operations and the relationship between addition and subtraction.

I infer &quot;and/or. . . .&quot; means calculation without using improper fractions. Omit the word or. Both methods are important.  The drafty-draft does not mention calculation of mixed numbers as such.  Say you join 3 rods, of lengths 

4 5/16, 2 1/16, and 3 7 /16 inches. 

The efficient way to calculate the resulting length is to add the whole numbers, then the fractions, getting 9 13/16&quot;.  Common core method, with improper fractions:

69/16 + 33/16  + 55/16 = 157/16&quot;. 

Comparing the two methods, the calculation with improper fractions is slower and more likely to have mistakes; the sum is an improper fraction, which may not be as useful as a mixed number.

Skill with fractions is important in life. To enter the military, people take the Armed Forces Qualification Test, which includes fractions. Calculators are not allowed on the test. (See sample tests at http://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/asvab/). To become a contractor, people take a licensing examination, which includes fractions. Foreign countries, such as Singapore, teach simplification of fractions and least common denominator. See http://www.singaporemath.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/sp_pmstdtg5a1.pdf. 

Fractions are also basic to higher mathematics:
In trigonometry, the student may need to know that 5π/10 = π/2.

A formula for calculating exponential growth, with doubling time k, initial amount A, and time t, is A*2^(t/k). if an investment doubles every 8 years, how much does it grow in 24 years? The exponent here is 24/8. If the student simplifies this fraction as 3, they get 2^3 = 8; so if you start with $1000, you have $8000 in 24 years. If the student cannot simplify 24/8, the calculation requires a calculator. 

Understanding numerical fractions, the student is ready for algebraic fractions

I admire the Common Core for promoting games and hands-on activities. It improves the standards of many states. Refine the standards. Students should learn to calculate fractions with speed and accuracy in grades through 5. Then they should also use fractions in middle and high school to maintain skill.
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I admire Common Core for more emphasis on fractions than many schools now require. Also, I like the encouragement of activities and interesting applications. I hope you will include these three topics: least common denominators, calculation with mixed numbers as such, and simplification.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have taught or tutored mathematics at all levels, grade school through graduate school. I have a Ph.D. in mathematics. Most of my students need more knowledge of fractions. The Common Core standards omit the simplification of fractions. How do you measure 22/33 cup of milk? A standard measure is 2/3 cup. Suppose you want to convert 150 minutes to hours. The result is 150/60 hours, perhaps not a useful measure. Simplifying, you get 5/2 or, better, 2 ½ hours.</p>
<p>For adding and subtracting fractions, Common Core says<br />
•  5.NF.1. Add and subtract fractions with unlike denominators (including mixed numbers) by replacing given fractions with equivalent fractions in such a way as to produce an equivalent sum or difference of fractions with like denominators. For example, 2/3 + 5/4 = 8/12 + 15/12 = 23/12. (In general, a/b + c/d = (ad + bc)/bd.)</p>
<p>This algorithm is not efficient when adding three or more fractions.  Here is a sample problem from a test given to people joining the military:  &#8220;A baker made 20 pies. A Boy Scout troop buys one-fourth of this pies, a preschool teacher buys one-third of his pies, and a caterer buys one-sixth of his pies. How many pies does the baker have left? (reference below)&#8221;<br />
With Common Core, you multiply all the denominators, getting 72, and add like this:<br />
	1/4  + 1/3 + 1/6 = (18 + 24 + 12)/72 = 54/72.<br />
So 18/72 of the pies remain, and 20 * 18/72 = 360/72, not an acceptable answer on this test.</p>
<p>The Standards omit least common denominator, which is 12 in this example. Using it, the calculation becomes:</p>
<p>	(3 + 4 + 2)/12 = 9/12 = ¾.  So ¼ of the pies remain, and ¼ * 20 = 5, the correct answer.<br />
Without the least common denominator, the calculation is slower and more likely to have mistakes; the result is unsimplified. The Standards include least common multiple, but why teach this idea and leave out its main use, least common denominator?    </p>
<p>For mixed numbers, the standards say:</p>
<p>4.NF.3<br />
Add and subtract mixed numbers with like denominators, e.g., by replacing each mixed number with an equivalent fraction, and/or by using properties of operations and the relationship between addition and subtraction.</p>
<p>I infer &#8220;and/or. . . .&#8221; means calculation without using improper fractions. Omit the word or. Both methods are important.  The drafty-draft does not mention calculation of mixed numbers as such.  Say you join 3 rods, of lengths </p>
<p>4 5/16, 2 1/16, and 3 7 /16 inches. </p>
<p>The efficient way to calculate the resulting length is to add the whole numbers, then the fractions, getting 9 13/16&#8243;.  Common core method, with improper fractions:</p>
<p>69/16 + 33/16  + 55/16 = 157/16&#8243;. </p>
<p>Comparing the two methods, the calculation with improper fractions is slower and more likely to have mistakes; the sum is an improper fraction, which may not be as useful as a mixed number.</p>
<p>Skill with fractions is important in life. To enter the military, people take the Armed Forces Qualification Test, which includes fractions. Calculators are not allowed on the test. (See sample tests at <a href="http://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/asvab/" rel="nofollow">http://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/asvab/</a>). To become a contractor, people take a licensing examination, which includes fractions. Foreign countries, such as Singapore, teach simplification of fractions and least common denominator. See <a href="http://www.singaporemath.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/sp_pmstdtg5a1.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.singaporemath.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/sp_pmstdtg5a1.pdf</a>. </p>
<p>Fractions are also basic to higher mathematics:<br />
In trigonometry, the student may need to know that 5π/10 = π/2.</p>
<p>A formula for calculating exponential growth, with doubling time k, initial amount A, and time t, is A*2^(t/k). if an investment doubles every 8 years, how much does it grow in 24 years? The exponent here is 24/8. If the student simplifies this fraction as 3, they get 2^3 = 8; so if you start with $1000, you have $8000 in 24 years. If the student cannot simplify 24/8, the calculation requires a calculator. </p>
<p>Understanding numerical fractions, the student is ready for algebraic fractions</p>
<p>I admire the Common Core for promoting games and hands-on activities. It improves the standards of many states. Refine the standards. Students should learn to calculate fractions with speed and accuracy in grades through 5. Then they should also use fractions in middle and high school to maintain skill.<br />
.<br />
I admire Common Core for more emphasis on fractions than many schools now require. Also, I like the encouragement of activities and interesting applications. I hope you will include these three topics: least common denominators, calculation with mixed numbers as such, and simplification.<br />
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[Typo corrected 6/7/2012]</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Tom James</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1855</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Cathy. I&#039;ve used the form to send Achieve a message.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Cathy. I&#8217;ve used the form to send Achieve a message.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Cathy Kessel</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1854</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Kessel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This looks as if it comes from p. 20 of the model course pathways document from Achieve. I suggest you send a message about the typo via their contact form: http://www.achieve.org/contact]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks as if it comes from p. 20 of the model course pathways document from Achieve. I suggest you send a message about the typo via their contact form: <a href="http://www.achieve.org/contact" rel="nofollow">http://www.achieve.org/contact</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Duane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1840</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 06:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for taking time to answer all these queries Bill, it&#039;s been immensely useful. I have a question about how to interpret standards that have a sub-standard listed as well. An example is K.CC.4. The statement has this sentence, &quot;Understand the relationship between numbers and quantities; connect counting to cardinality.&quot; What follows next are three more statements labeled a, b, and c. Is the statement I quoted meant to be assessed *in addition to* a, b, and c? Or does the statement merely *summarize* a, b, and c?

On a related note, where would subitizing lie in K? The progressions mention the role of subitizing but there does not seem to be a standard that either perceptual or conceptual subitizing clearly relates to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking time to answer all these queries Bill, it&#8217;s been immensely useful. I have a question about how to interpret standards that have a sub-standard listed as well. An example is K.CC.4. The statement has this sentence, &#8220;Understand the relationship between numbers and quantities; connect counting to cardinality.&#8221; What follows next are three more statements labeled a, b, and c. Is the statement I quoted meant to be assessed *in addition to* a, b, and c? Or does the statement merely *summarize* a, b, and c?</p>
<p>On a related note, where would subitizing lie in K? The progressions mention the role of subitizing but there does not seem to be a standard that either perceptual or conceptual subitizing clearly relates to.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by oemb1905</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1839</link>
		<dc:creator>oemb1905</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 04:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What was the thinking behind leaving Pre-Algebra out of the traditional frameworks in Appendix A?  Is it that these subjects are contained in 7th Grade Advanced, or are they in Middle School Algebra I?  Or, are you re-thinking the nature of Pre-Algebra as a course itself.  Please clarify.  The context:  I need to make a Year At A Glance for Pre-Algebra since we still teach this course, however, I will use one of the existing grades like 7th Advanced, 8th, or Middle School Algebra I form Appendix A if these are usurping what used to be Pre-Algebra.  Forgive me if someone asked this already but there are over a hundred comments. Thanks, Jonathan Haack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was the thinking behind leaving Pre-Algebra out of the traditional frameworks in Appendix A?  Is it that these subjects are contained in 7th Grade Advanced, or are they in Middle School Algebra I?  Or, are you re-thinking the nature of Pre-Algebra as a course itself.  Please clarify.  The context:  I need to make a Year At A Glance for Pre-Algebra since we still teach this course, however, I will use one of the existing grades like 7th Advanced, 8th, or Middle School Algebra I form Appendix A if these are usurping what used to be Pre-Algebra.  Forgive me if someone asked this already but there are over a hundred comments. Thanks, Jonathan Haack.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The data part of the Measurement and Data Progression by Nancy</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/06/20/the-data-part-of-the-measurement-and-data-progression/#comment-1831</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have a 5th grade question:  &quot;The following fractions represent the measure in cups of nine beakers, filled with water.&quot;  (Fractions given: some 1/2&#039;s, some 1/4&#039;s, some 1/8&#039;s).  This question is taken from the AZ unpacked standards.                                
                                         

a.	Use the information to plot the measurements on a line plot on your Student Answer Sheet. 



b.	Record the title and label the axis.


c.	Make a statement comparing the number of beakers filled with   cup to the number of beakers filled with    cup. 

HERE is our question.  Since the line on the plot is an axis, do students need to include 3/8 on that axis to have equally scaled intervals?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a 5th grade question:  &#8220;The following fractions represent the measure in cups of nine beakers, filled with water.&#8221;  (Fractions given: some 1/2&#8242;s, some 1/4&#8242;s, some 1/8&#8242;s).  This question is taken from the AZ unpacked standards.                                </p>
<p>a.	Use the information to plot the measurements on a line plot on your Student Answer Sheet. </p>
<p>b.	Record the title and label the axis.</p>
<p>c.	Make a statement comparing the number of beakers filled with   cup to the number of beakers filled with    cup. </p>
<p>HERE is our question.  Since the line on the plot is an axis, do students need to include 3/8 on that axis to have equally scaled intervals?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Dennis Kostac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Kostac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 19:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have been studying + standard N-CN 5.   The question we have is about the interpretation of the multiplication of complex numbers geometrically.    Does this mean scalar multipiication or the multiplication of two complex numbers?   We are able to do the multiplication of complex numbers algebraically, but are finding very little anywhere about how to do it geometrically.   The example of the complex numbers cubed also confuses us.   We were able to do it using DeMoivre&#039;s Theorem, but not geometrically.

Any clarification or example(s) would be aprreciated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have been studying + standard N-CN 5.   The question we have is about the interpretation of the multiplication of complex numbers geometrically.    Does this mean scalar multipiication or the multiplication of two complex numbers?   We are able to do the multiplication of complex numbers algebraically, but are finding very little anywhere about how to do it geometrically.   The example of the complex numbers cubed also confuses us.   We were able to do it using DeMoivre&#8217;s Theorem, but not geometrically.</p>
<p>Any clarification or example(s) would be aprreciated.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression on Ratios and Proportional Relationships by Lynda</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/09/12/progression-on-ratios-and-proportional-reasoning/#comment-1826</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 17:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Smarter Balanced Assessment Consortium has a glossary in its item/task specifications documents for math. Their definition of rate? A ratio that compares two quantities of different units (e.g., miles per hour). 
http://www.smarterbalanced.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/TaskItemSpecifications/Mathematics/MathematicsGeneralItemandTaskSpecificationsGrades6-8.pdf

Also noteworty, they do not define unit rate.

An aside:
Texas, a state not adopting the CCSS, has these standards for Grade 6:
6.4(C) give examples of ratios as multiplicative comparisons of two quantities describing the same attribute;
6.4(D) give examples of rates as the comparison by division of two quantities having different attributes, including rates as quotients;

The only mention of unit rate in Grade 6 is in this standard:
6.4(H) convert units within a measurement system, including the use of proportions and unit rates.

While I agree that it is not necessary to belabor the distinction between rate and unit rate, it is still necessary when teaching the concepts to at least initially define them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Smarter Balanced Assessment Consortium has a glossary in its item/task specifications documents for math. Their definition of rate? A ratio that compares two quantities of different units (e.g., miles per hour).<br />
<a href="http://www.smarterbalanced.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/TaskItemSpecifications/Mathematics/MathematicsGeneralItemandTaskSpecificationsGrades6-8.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.smarterbalanced.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/TaskItemSpecifications/Mathematics/MathematicsGeneralItemandTaskSpecificationsGrades6-8.pdf</a></p>
<p>Also noteworty, they do not define unit rate.</p>
<p>An aside:<br />
Texas, a state not adopting the CCSS, has these standards for Grade 6:<br />
6.4(C) give examples of ratios as multiplicative comparisons of two quantities describing the same attribute;<br />
6.4(D) give examples of rates as the comparison by division of two quantities having different attributes, including rates as quotients;</p>
<p>The only mention of unit rate in Grade 6 is in this standard:<br />
6.4(H) convert units within a measurement system, including the use of proportions and unit rates.</p>
<p>While I agree that it is not necessary to belabor the distinction between rate and unit rate, it is still necessary when teaching the concepts to at least initially define them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Eric Henry</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1825</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 16:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Almost half of the Algebra 2 progression is Probability and Statistics (42% of non-modeling days) and the single biggest unit in Algebra 1 is Statistics. This makes me wonder... Why not combine Algebra 1 and Algebra 2 into one course and have a new course called Probability and Statistics?

Either way, I am happy to see a reasonable amount of time going to such an essential pair of topics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost half of the Algebra 2 progression is Probability and Statistics (42% of non-modeling days) and the single biggest unit in Algebra 1 is Statistics. This makes me wonder&#8230; Why not combine Algebra 1 and Algebra 2 into one course and have a new course called Probability and Statistics?</p>
<p>Either way, I am happy to see a reasonable amount of time going to such an essential pair of topics.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Doug Van Wassenhove</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-1824</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Van Wassenhove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 16:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill, I&#039;m interested in knowing whether there is a mistake in high school standard F.TF.3, which concludes with &quot;use the unit circle to express the values of sine, cosines [sic], and tangent for x, π + x, and 2π – x in terms of their values for x, where x is any real number.&quot; This part of the standard appears to be talking about angles in Quadrants II, III, and IV that have the same reference angle x in Quadrant I (although x is unrestricted in the standard). If this part of the standard really is about reference angles, then shouldn&#039;t the first occurrence of &quot;x&quot; be &quot;π – x&quot; instead for a Q. II angle? And should the very last part of the standard say &quot;where x is a real number between 0 and π/2&quot; to make it clear that x is a Q. I angle? Or is this standard talking about something else that I&#039;m simply not understanding?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, I&#8217;m interested in knowing whether there is a mistake in high school standard F.TF.3, which concludes with &#8220;use the unit circle to express the values of sine, cosines [sic], and tangent for x, π + x, and 2π – x in terms of their values for x, where x is any real number.&#8221; This part of the standard appears to be talking about angles in Quadrants II, III, and IV that have the same reference angle x in Quadrant I (although x is unrestricted in the standard). If this part of the standard really is about reference angles, then shouldn&#8217;t the first occurrence of &#8220;x&#8221; be &#8220;π – x&#8221; instead for a Q. II angle? And should the very last part of the standard say &#8220;where x is a real number between 0 and π/2&#8243; to make it clear that x is a Q. I angle? Or is this standard talking about something else that I&#8217;m simply not understanding?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression on Ratios and Proportional Relationships by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/09/12/progression-on-ratios-and-proportional-reasoning/#comment-1823</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 16:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Others have mentioned the same objection to this term, and I&#039;m certainly sympathetic to it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Others have mentioned the same objection to this term, and I&#8217;m certainly sympathetic to it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft high school Statistics and Probability progression by Howard Levine</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/21/draft-high-school-statistics-and-probability-progression/#comment-1822</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 16:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we can use the standard deviation of the sample, why can&#039;t we use the Central Limt Theorem and traditional hypothesis testing?  Why must we simulate sampling distributions?  Why is one procedure or technology better than the other?   The Guidelines for Assessmant and Instruction in Statistics Education (GAISE) Report cites several times that simulation will be used, but in an example they discuss (page 77) they talk about doing a certain simulation 200 times before being able to make a decision.  This just is not possible to do in a timely fashion if more than one example is ever going to be done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we can use the standard deviation of the sample, why can&#8217;t we use the Central Limt Theorem and traditional hypothesis testing?  Why must we simulate sampling distributions?  Why is one procedure or technology better than the other?   The Guidelines for Assessmant and Instruction in Statistics Education (GAISE) Report cites several times that simulation will be used, but in an example they discuss (page 77) they talk about doing a certain simulation 200 times before being able to make a decision.  This just is not possible to do in a timely fashion if more than one example is ever going to be done.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression on Ratios and Proportional Relationships by Ratcheting back the rhetoric on Common Core &#124; Overthinking my teaching</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/09/12/progression-on-ratios-and-proportional-reasoning/#comment-1819</link>
		<dc:creator>Ratcheting back the rhetoric on Common Core &#124; Overthinking my teaching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 12:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Bill McCallum writes in the comments here at OMT:  I don’t think that effort [to define terms such &quot;ratio&quot; and &quot;rate&quot; that CCSS leaves undefined] deserves quite the ridicule it is receiving here, but never mind, the criticism will be taken into consideration nonetheless and inform the final draft. I’ll only say that if I had a dollar for every time someone told me the answers to all these questions were obvious, I’d be a rich man. Of course, the “obvious” answers are mutually self-contradictory. This seems to be an area where it is very difficult indeed to find common language, and where emotions run high. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bill McCallum writes in the comments here at OMT:  I don’t think that effort [to define terms such &quot;ratio&quot; and &quot;rate&quot; that CCSS leaves undefined] deserves quite the ridicule it is receiving here, but never mind, the criticism will be taken into consideration nonetheless and inform the final draft. I’ll only say that if I had a dollar for every time someone told me the answers to all these questions were obvious, I’d be a rich man. Of course, the “obvious” answers are mutually self-contradictory. This seems to be an area where it is very difficult indeed to find common language, and where emotions run high. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Phil Daro on learning mathematics through problem solving by Cathy Kessel</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/05/21/phil-daro-on-learning-mathematics-through-problem-solving/#comment-1816</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Kessel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 23:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Janice, would downloading the video work for you? 

Phil refers to videos of grade 8 classrooms in Japan and other countries. Some are available here: http://timssvideo.com/videos/Mathematics. The web site has a place to log in that is prominently displayed, but according to the web site, logging in is not necessary for viewing the videos. (Some of the transcripts are non-optimal. JP4 SOLVING INEQUALITIES has the phrase &quot;inequality equation&quot; which might work better as &quot;inequality.&quot; Tad Watanabe has a discussion of this in the book Mathematics Curriculum in Pacific Rim Countries (Information Age Publishers, 2008).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janice, would downloading the video work for you? </p>
<p>Phil refers to videos of grade 8 classrooms in Japan and other countries. Some are available here: <a href="http://timssvideo.com/videos/Mathematics" rel="nofollow">http://timssvideo.com/videos/Mathematics</a>. The web site has a place to log in that is prominently displayed, but according to the web site, logging in is not necessary for viewing the videos. (Some of the transcripts are non-optimal. JP4 SOLVING INEQUALITIES has the phrase &#8220;inequality equation&#8221; which might work better as &#8220;inequality.&#8221; Tad Watanabe has a discussion of this in the book Mathematics Curriculum in Pacific Rim Countries (Information Age Publishers, 2008).</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Tom James</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1815</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 20:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Mr. McCallum,

To whom might I address this typo (http://i.imgur.com/jJKtM.gif) I found in Appendix A?

Thanks,
Tom James]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. McCallum,</p>
<p>To whom might I address this typo (<a href="http://i.imgur.com/jJKtM.gif" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/jJKtM.gif</a>) I found in Appendix A?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Tom James</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Elaine</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-1814</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 18:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your response. I agree that the set model can lead students (and teachers) to misconceptions about fractions as two counting numbers.  I find this especially true in grade 1.  Later, perhaps by grade 2,  the model makes more sense and can help develop some flexibility around the meaning of the whole.  I think it&#039;s interesting that the clarification was left to curriculum developers to experiment with -]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your response. I agree that the set model can lead students (and teachers) to misconceptions about fractions as two counting numbers.  I find this especially true in grade 1.  Later, perhaps by grade 2,  the model makes more sense and can help develop some flexibility around the meaning of the whole.  I think it&#8217;s interesting that the clarification was left to curriculum developers to experiment with -</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by kimnutter</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1813</link>
		<dc:creator>kimnutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 17:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I ran across a standard in the common core that has bothered me and has me thinking and I was wondering if you could clarify it for me. The standard is G.CO.9 &quot;Prove theorems about lines and angles.&quot; It then goes on to give some examples of the theorems that students will prove. When it comes to the parallel lines cut by a transversal examples, it uses alternate interior angles are congruent and corresponding angles are congruent. The problem I am having is the one about corresponding angles. In every book I have used, corresponding angles congruent is a postulate and not a theorem and I thought that postulates were the foundations we accepted and then built the theorems from it. Can you please help me understand this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran across a standard in the common core that has bothered me and has me thinking and I was wondering if you could clarify it for me. The standard is G.CO.9 &#8220;Prove theorems about lines and angles.&#8221; It then goes on to give some examples of the theorems that students will prove. When it comes to the parallel lines cut by a transversal examples, it uses alternate interior angles are congruent and corresponding angles are congruent. The problem I am having is the one about corresponding angles. In every book I have used, corresponding angles congruent is a postulate and not a theorem and I thought that postulates were the foundations we accepted and then built the theorems from it. Can you please help me understand this?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Cathy Kessel</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1807</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Kessel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 20:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Usiskin et al.&#039;s Classification of Quadrilaterals reports on the results of a systematic survey of textbooks and has a discussion that some might find helpful. You can see it via Google Books: http://books.google.com/books?id=ZkoUR5lRwdcC&amp;lpg=PA32&amp;ots=WKi19q9x61&amp;dq=whiteley%202002%20trapezoid&amp;pg=PA32#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false

Usiskin et al. say: &quot;The preponderance of advantages to the inclusive definition of trapezoid has caused all the articles we could find on the subject, and most college-bound geometry books, to favor the inclusive definition.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Usiskin et al.&#8217;s Classification of Quadrilaterals reports on the results of a systematic survey of textbooks and has a discussion that some might find helpful. You can see it via Google Books: <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=ZkoUR5lRwdcC&#038;lpg=PA32&#038;ots=WKi19q9x61&#038;dq=whiteley%202002%20trapezoid&#038;pg=PA32#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/books?id=ZkoUR5lRwdcC&#038;lpg=PA32&#038;ots=WKi19q9x61&#038;dq=whiteley%202002%20trapezoid&#038;pg=PA32#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false</a></p>
<p>Usiskin et al. say: &#8220;The preponderance of advantages to the inclusive definition of trapezoid has caused all the articles we could find on the subject, and most college-bound geometry books, to favor the inclusive definition.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Phil Daro on learning mathematics through problem solving by Janice</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/05/21/phil-daro-on-learning-mathematics-through-problem-solving/#comment-1806</link>
		<dc:creator>Janice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 19:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this video available at another site?  My school has the site black-listed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this video available at another site?  My school has the site black-listed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Tad W</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1804</link>
		<dc:creator>Tad W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 14:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although I agree that students in MS and HS will be given opportunities to work with fractions regularly, I hope it will not take the form of a &quot;review unit&quot; that we often see in commonly available textbooks.  I think it is not just students who &quot;avoid fractions.&quot;  I must confess I am guilty of often not including fractions as we investigate other math topics.  Even in the CCSS, so many of the examples involve only whole numbers - for example, 7.EE.4a says, &quot;for example, the perimeter of a rectangle is 54 cm. Its length is 6 cm. What is its width?&quot; even though the standard itself says &quot;Solve word problems leading to equations of the form px + q = r and p(x + q) = r, where p, q, and r are specific RATIONAL numbers.&quot;  I know we do it to make sure that students&#039; difficulty with fractions will not hinder their learning of other math concepts, but I think I need to incorporate fractions (and decimal numbers) more - perhaps not at the introductory stage of a new concept, but definitely as students try to solidify their understanding of the new idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I agree that students in MS and HS will be given opportunities to work with fractions regularly, I hope it will not take the form of a &#8220;review unit&#8221; that we often see in commonly available textbooks.  I think it is not just students who &#8220;avoid fractions.&#8221;  I must confess I am guilty of often not including fractions as we investigate other math topics.  Even in the CCSS, so many of the examples involve only whole numbers &#8211; for example, 7.EE.4a says, &#8220;for example, the perimeter of a rectangle is 54 cm. Its length is 6 cm. What is its width?&#8221; even though the standard itself says &#8220;Solve word problems leading to equations of the form px + q = r and p(x + q) = r, where p, q, and r are specific RATIONAL numbers.&#8221;  I know we do it to make sure that students&#8217; difficulty with fractions will not hinder their learning of other math concepts, but I think I need to incorporate fractions (and decimal numbers) more &#8211; perhaps not at the introductory stage of a new concept, but definitely as students try to solidify their understanding of the new idea.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression on Ratios and Proportional Relationships by David Cox</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/09/12/progression-on-ratios-and-proportional-reasoning/#comment-1803</link>
		<dc:creator>David Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 13:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The unit rate is the numerical part of the rate; the “unit” in “unit rate” is often used to highlight the 1 in “for each 1” or “for every 1.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I realize that the progression documents are in draft, but what troubles me is the fact that things like &quot;unit rate&quot; can conceivably take on meanings that I&#039;ve never seen before. Can you please take us through the thought process that led to a &quot;unit rate&quot; neither containing units nor being a rate?  If a rate is always to be considered as something for every 1, then is the definition even necessary?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The unit rate is the numerical part of the rate; the “unit” in “unit rate” is often used to highlight the 1 in “for each 1” or “for every 1.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I realize that the progression documents are in draft, but what troubles me is the fact that things like &#8220;unit rate&#8221; can conceivably take on meanings that I&#8217;ve never seen before. Can you please take us through the thought process that led to a &#8220;unit rate&#8221; neither containing units nor being a rate?  If a rate is always to be considered as something for every 1, then is the definition even necessary?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Ken Anderson</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-1798</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 00:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks much. As it happens, after the post that I left here, I discovered that article by Hung-Hsi Wu and printed it out for further study. At the end of it he indicates what is coming down the pike (as you point out). very interesting reading so far!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks much. As it happens, after the post that I left here, I discovered that article by Hung-Hsi Wu and printed it out for further study. At the end of it he indicates what is coming down the pike (as you point out). very interesting reading so far!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1797</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 21:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matisha, I don&#039;t know the answer to this question. Mastery is not a word used in the standards, so you would have to ask the people who are using it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matisha, I don&#8217;t know the answer to this question. Mastery is not a word used in the standards, so you would have to ask the people who are using it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1796</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 20:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bridgett, you are correct that knowing about the mode is not a requirement of the standards. An important design principle for the standards was focus, which meant eliminating topics of secondary importance to provide more time to cover the remaining topics in depth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bridgett, you are correct that knowing about the mode is not a requirement of the standards. An important design principle for the standards was focus, which meant eliminating topics of secondary importance to provide more time to cover the remaining topics in depth.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1795</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 20:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The critical areas are an introduction to the standards at each grade level, cast into more friendly language, but they are still just a flat survey, and do not capture the carefully designed structure of the standards themselves and their progression across grade levels. The cluster headings are signposts for that structure. Often they communicate the point of a group of specific standards, rather in the way that a topic sentence communicates the point of the remaining sentences in the paragraph. So, if you want assessments to capture the structure of the standards, and avoid being a flat checklist, it makes sense to organize them around the clusters rather than around the critical areas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The critical areas are an introduction to the standards at each grade level, cast into more friendly language, but they are still just a flat survey, and do not capture the carefully designed structure of the standards themselves and their progression across grade levels. The cluster headings are signposts for that structure. Often they communicate the point of a group of specific standards, rather in the way that a topic sentence communicates the point of the remaining sentences in the paragraph. So, if you want assessments to capture the structure of the standards, and avoid being a flat checklist, it makes sense to organize them around the clusters rather than around the critical areas.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1793</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 18:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lynn, yes, you are absolutely right, and you have answered your own question correctly! K.CC.1 is about the sequence. The language of the cluster headings is part of the standards, in addition to the standards themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynn, yes, you are absolutely right, and you have answered your own question correctly! K.CC.1 is about the sequence. The language of the cluster headings is part of the standards, in addition to the standards themselves.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1792</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 18:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone sent me this question:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Dear Dr. McCallum,
Several of my Kg colleagues have trouble letting go of the unit about patterns (AB, ABC…) even though it is not part of the Kg Math CCSS. I am concerned that in teaching this unit, they will waste valuable time and will not be able to give enough instructional time to the CCSS. Would you please explain to them why patterns are not part of the KG Math CCSS and why it is so important to teach the critical areas as they are described in the Kg Math CCSS.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Here is an answer I gave to a similar question about patterning and skip counting elsewhere on this blog (in response to &lt;a href=&quot;http://commoncoretools.me/2011/05/29/complete-draft-progression-for-cc-and-oa/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this thread&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Patterning and skip counting can support the work of learning to count and add whole numbers, but they can also be used in ways that don’t support that. For example, given a repeating patter red, blue, blue, red, blue, blue, … a teacher could ask what the next color is, or could ask questions that get more at the underlying operations of addition and multiplication (not in Kindergarten, obviously). For example, you could ask about the size of groupings, how many groups it takes to get to 12, what the 23rd color would be, and so on. The same goes for skip counting: if it is connected to addition and multiplication, it can be useful, but if it just a matter of memorizing a sequence, then it could get in the way of understanding counting as cardinality, and understanding going to the next number as adding 1. Skip counting by 5 or 10 can reinforce base 10 understanding, because you notice the pattern in how the digits go up (and this includes starting from a number other than 0). Skip counting is not a goal in its own right, however. In short, both skip counting and patterning are viewed as supporting learning of operations and their properties, rather than as being learning objectives in their own right.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone sent me this question:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Dear Dr. McCallum,<br />
Several of my Kg colleagues have trouble letting go of the unit about patterns (AB, ABC…) even though it is not part of the Kg Math CCSS. I am concerned that in teaching this unit, they will waste valuable time and will not be able to give enough instructional time to the CCSS. Would you please explain to them why patterns are not part of the KG Math CCSS and why it is so important to teach the critical areas as they are described in the Kg Math CCSS.
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<p>Here is an answer I gave to a similar question about patterning and skip counting elsewhere on this blog (in response to <a href="http://commoncoretools.me/2011/05/29/complete-draft-progression-for-cc-and-oa/" rel="nofollow">this thread</a>.</p>
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Patterning and skip counting can support the work of learning to count and add whole numbers, but they can also be used in ways that don’t support that. For example, given a repeating patter red, blue, blue, red, blue, blue, … a teacher could ask what the next color is, or could ask questions that get more at the underlying operations of addition and multiplication (not in Kindergarten, obviously). For example, you could ask about the size of groupings, how many groups it takes to get to 12, what the 23rd color would be, and so on. The same goes for skip counting: if it is connected to addition and multiplication, it can be useful, but if it just a matter of memorizing a sequence, then it could get in the way of understanding counting as cardinality, and understanding going to the next number as adding 1. Skip counting by 5 or 10 can reinforce base 10 understanding, because you notice the pattern in how the digits go up (and this includes starting from a number other than 0). Skip counting is not a goal in its own right, however. In short, both skip counting and patterning are viewed as supporting learning of operations and their properties, rather than as being learning objectives in their own right.
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/09/12/progression-on-ratios-and-proportional-reasoning/#comment-1791</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 18:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just to add one more thing, I find the suggestion that kids will be tested on the distinction between rate and unit rate to be pretty implausible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to add one more thing, I find the suggestion that kids will be tested on the distinction between rate and unit rate to be pretty implausible.</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/09/12/progression-on-ratios-and-proportional-reasoning/#comment-1790</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 17:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The standards do not give explicit definitions of ratio and rate, although it is possible to extract plausible definitions from the language of the standards. The distinction between rate and unit rate is a little trickier. The standards are not completely clear on whether they are really asking for such a distinction or not; the Progressions document has to do a certain amount of interpretation and clarification. As I say in the next comment, I wouldn&#039;t belabor the distinction with 6th graders. 

As for your question about the lawns, I wouldn&#039;t say the rate is &quot;7/4 hours per lawn&quot; (that sounds weird), but rather &quot;7/4 hours for each lawn&quot;. The standards ask for &quot;rate language&quot;, the Progression suggests that &quot;per&quot;, &quot;for each&quot;, and &quot;for every&quot; are all examples of rate language.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The standards do not give explicit definitions of ratio and rate, although it is possible to extract plausible definitions from the language of the standards. The distinction between rate and unit rate is a little trickier. The standards are not completely clear on whether they are really asking for such a distinction or not; the Progressions document has to do a certain amount of interpretation and clarification. As I say in the next comment, I wouldn&#8217;t belabor the distinction with 6th graders. </p>
<p>As for your question about the lawns, I wouldn&#8217;t say the rate is &#8220;7/4 hours per lawn&#8221; (that sounds weird), but rather &#8220;7/4 hours for each lawn&#8221;. The standards ask for &#8220;rate language&#8221;, the Progression suggests that &#8220;per&#8221;, &#8220;for each&#8221;, and &#8220;for every&#8221; are all examples of rate language.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression on Ratios and Proportional Relationships by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/09/12/progression-on-ratios-and-proportional-reasoning/#comment-1789</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 17:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is not quite right. The standards do not insist on this distinction, although both terms are used in the standards. The Progressions document is an effort to interpret and clarify the standards, and is currently in draft form. Discussions such as this could influence the final form of the document. I don&#039;t think this is a distinction I would belabor with sixth graders. The purpose of the Progressions document is offer some clear languages for teachers to use and talk about the concepts. This area in particular is one where there are contradictory definitions flying around and, apparently, a lot of emotion, so achieving this clarity might be difficult!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not quite right. The standards do not insist on this distinction, although both terms are used in the standards. The Progressions document is an effort to interpret and clarify the standards, and is currently in draft form. Discussions such as this could influence the final form of the document. I don&#8217;t think this is a distinction I would belabor with sixth graders. The purpose of the Progressions document is offer some clear languages for teachers to use and talk about the concepts. This area in particular is one where there are contradictory definitions flying around and, apparently, a lot of emotion, so achieving this clarity might be difficult!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft high school Statistics and Probability progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/21/draft-high-school-statistics-and-probability-progression/#comment-1788</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 16:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are right that simulation is called for, but I&#039;m not sure about the method you propose. First, I think the standard deviation would be estimated from the numerical data (e.g. the square root of the mean square distance from the mean, possibility built into statistical software). Second, two standard deviations is only the margin of error at the 95% confidence level (approximately); choosing a different level would change the margin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right that simulation is called for, but I&#8217;m not sure about the method you propose. First, I think the standard deviation would be estimated from the numerical data (e.g. the square root of the mean square distance from the mean, possibility built into statistical software). Second, two standard deviations is only the margin of error at the 95% confidence level (approximately); choosing a different level would change the margin.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-1786</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 12:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A natural place to consider set models would be Grade 5, where students start multiplying whole numbers by fractions, and so they could interpret $latex \frac35 \times 10 = 6$ in terms of a set of 10 objects. As for introducing set models earlier, it was an intentional omission on the advice of reviewers, but I don&#039;t think that should forbid curriculum developers from experimenting with various ways of introducing fractions. The argument against set models was that they didn&#039;t fit well with the unit fraction approach. If children are used to counting objects, say 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 teddy bears, it&#039;s confusing (so the argument goes) to turn around and declare 5 teddy bears to be a whole, so that one of them is 1/5 of the teddy bears, 2 of them are 2/5, and so on. There seems to be a shifting back and forth between 1 and 1/5/, 2 and 2/5, etc. On the other hand, it seems to me that this provides an opportunity to discuss the importance of specifying the whole when defining fractions, so I can see the value in set models earlier. As I said, I think this it is up to curriculum developers to work these things out; that which is not mentioned is not thereby forbidden.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A natural place to consider set models would be Grade 5, where students start multiplying whole numbers by fractions, and so they could interpret <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=%5Cfrac35+%5Ctimes+10+%3D+6&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="&#92;frac35 &#92;times 10 = 6" title="&#92;frac35 &#92;times 10 = 6" class="latex" /> in terms of a set of 10 objects. As for introducing set models earlier, it was an intentional omission on the advice of reviewers, but I don&#8217;t think that should forbid curriculum developers from experimenting with various ways of introducing fractions. The argument against set models was that they didn&#8217;t fit well with the unit fraction approach. If children are used to counting objects, say 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 teddy bears, it&#8217;s confusing (so the argument goes) to turn around and declare 5 teddy bears to be a whole, so that one of them is 1/5 of the teddy bears, 2 of them are 2/5, and so on. There seems to be a shifting back and forth between 1 and 1/5/, 2 and 2/5, etc. On the other hand, it seems to me that this provides an opportunity to discuss the importance of specifying the whole when defining fractions, so I can see the value in set models earlier. As I said, I think this it is up to curriculum developers to work these things out; that which is not mentioned is not thereby forbidden.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bonnie Baggett</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1783</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie Baggett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 23:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just attended the conference in New Orleans.  Very valuable.  If you have the opportunity to attend one in the future, it is with your time!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just attended the conference in New Orleans.  Very valuable.  If you have the opportunity to attend one in the future, it is with your time!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1782</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 22:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fairly consistent pattern I see is a student arrives at high school weak with fractions, makes it to Algebra 2 and then fails half way through because so much depends on fractions there.  So what Dr. McC is saying about consistently using bd all the way through will undoubtedly bring along more students.  The faster students can be easily nudged into experimenting with efficient means such as LCD without overwhelming the slower students.  I also agree with you, Brad, when you say fractions need consistent remediation, reinforcement and exploration all along the way for purposes of retention and enrichment, or large percentages of students will simply avoid fractions whenever they surface and, in the end, fail Algebra 2.    I would place fraction remediation up there with speech/language issues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fairly consistent pattern I see is a student arrives at high school weak with fractions, makes it to Algebra 2 and then fails half way through because so much depends on fractions there.  So what Dr. McC is saying about consistently using bd all the way through will undoubtedly bring along more students.  The faster students can be easily nudged into experimenting with efficient means such as LCD without overwhelming the slower students.  I also agree with you, Brad, when you say fractions need consistent remediation, reinforcement and exploration all along the way for purposes of retention and enrichment, or large percentages of students will simply avoid fractions whenever they surface and, in the end, fail Algebra 2.    I would place fraction remediation up there with speech/language issues.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The data part of the Measurement and Data Progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/06/20/the-data-part-of-the-measurement-and-data-progression/#comment-1781</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 21:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ivan, a few thoughts here. First, these examples could equally be interpreted as being about categorical data, although the categories in this case are numbers. Second, line plots are leading to the concept of a continuous distribution later (in high school), so it seems natural to associate them with continuous data. Also, the data standards in K–5 play a supporting role, so in this case they are supporting measurement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivan, a few thoughts here. First, these examples could equally be interpreted as being about categorical data, although the categories in this case are numbers. Second, line plots are leading to the concept of a continuous distribution later (in high school), so it seems natural to associate them with continuous data. Also, the data standards in K–5 play a supporting role, so in this case they are supporting measurement.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Complete draft progression for CC and OA by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/05/29/complete-draft-progression-for-cc-and-oa/#comment-1780</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 21:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is just an oversight in the Progression, and should apply to multiplication and division as well. Thanks for pointing that out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is just an oversight in the Progression, and should apply to multiplication and division as well. Thanks for pointing that out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Complete draft progression for CC and OA by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/05/29/complete-draft-progression-for-cc-and-oa/#comment-1779</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 21:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, I think your ideas for assessing K.CC.6 are quite reasonable, and well within the scope of the standard. For your general question, wouldn&#039;t make it a general principle that you can always assume the reverse of an operation is implied, but the two examples you mention seem reasonable to me. And it&#039;s certain reasonable, in fact is a good idea, to think of assessment and instructional tasks which assess more than one standard at a time, and your example about combining 1.OA.7 and 1.OA.8 is nice.

On your fluency question, I&#039;m not sure I understand the first part (process vs. speed), but I think &quot;ultra efficient mental strategies&quot; certainly have a role in fluency. To this day see 8 + 7 = 15 as 8 + 7 = 8 + (2 + 5) = (8 +2) + 5 = 10 + 5 = 15. I sort of see the 2 flash over.

The measurement progression is almost ready, the geometry progression is taking a bit longer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I think your ideas for assessing K.CC.6 are quite reasonable, and well within the scope of the standard. For your general question, wouldn&#8217;t make it a general principle that you can always assume the reverse of an operation is implied, but the two examples you mention seem reasonable to me. And it&#8217;s certain reasonable, in fact is a good idea, to think of assessment and instructional tasks which assess more than one standard at a time, and your example about combining 1.OA.7 and 1.OA.8 is nice.</p>
<p>On your fluency question, I&#8217;m not sure I understand the first part (process vs. speed), but I think &#8220;ultra efficient mental strategies&#8221; certainly have a role in fluency. To this day see 8 + 7 = 15 as 8 + 7 = 8 + (2 + 5) = (8 +2) + 5 = 10 + 5 = 15. I sort of see the 2 flash over.</p>
<p>The measurement progression is almost ready, the geometry progression is taking a bit longer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-1778</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 20:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are right that the Progression was confusing on this point ... see my comment in that thread.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right that the Progression was confusing on this point &#8230; see my comment in that thread.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-1777</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 20:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robert, Illustrative Mathematics now provides the ability to link directly to tasks (a feature long-awaited!). (You are also free to copy and paste.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, Illustrative Mathematics now provides the ability to link directly to tasks (a feature long-awaited!). (You are also free to copy and paste.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-1776</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 20:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ken, there will eventually be a progression on geometry which should help. It should be out by the end of the summer. In the meantime, there&#039;s a  &lt;a href=&quot;http://math.berkeley.edu/~wu/Progressions_Geometry.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;detailed treatment&lt;/a&gt; at Hung-Hsi Wu&#039;s website.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, there will eventually be a progression on geometry which should help. It should be out by the end of the summer. In the meantime, there&#8217;s a  <a href="http://math.berkeley.edu/~wu/Progressions_Geometry.pdf" rel="nofollow">detailed treatment</a> at Hung-Hsi Wu&#8217;s website.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Number and Operations in Base Ten by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/06/draft-of-progression-on-number-and-operations-in-base-ten/#comment-1775</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 19:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brad, thanks for catching this, I&#039;ll upload a corrected version in a few minutes.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Number and Operations in Base Ten by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/06/draft-of-progression-on-number-and-operations-in-base-ten/#comment-1774</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 19:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Nancy, sorry to be slow catching up on this. Yes, there&#039;ll be a Number System progression by the end of the summer. In answer to Brad&#039;s question, yes, lcm&#039;s are treated with an extremely light touch in Grade 6. Number theory is not a primary focus of the standards. It&#039;s a beautiful subject (and my own research area), but there is much that is beautiful but not in the standards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Nancy, sorry to be slow catching up on this. Yes, there&#8217;ll be a Number System progression by the end of the summer. In answer to Brad&#8217;s question, yes, lcm&#8217;s are treated with an extremely light touch in Grade 6. Number theory is not a primary focus of the standards. It&#8217;s a beautiful subject (and my own research area), but there is much that is beautiful but not in the standards.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Brad Burkman</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1772</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Burkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 17:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill et at, 

I&#039;m going to disagree, on several points.  

First, there IS a general formula for adding fractions using the least common denominator.  In a/b + c/d, let g=gcd(b,d).  Then there are relatively prime integers (or polynomials) e and f such that b=eg and d=fg.  

a/b + c/d = a/(eg) + c/(fg) = (af+ce)/(efg).  

The formula works for ratios of both integers and polynomials, and covers the case when g=1.  

There is no &quot;the&quot; general formula; there are two.  The one in the Standards is the general brute-force formula, like killing a fly with a bazooka.  The formula I&#039;ve given is the general elegant formula, which uses the basic number theory the Standards say students should learn in sixth grade.  

I&#039;m also going to disagree with Bill about the product of the denominators being the &quot;natural common unit...the only common unit that exists in general.&quot;  The &quot;efg&quot; above exists in general, because g can be 1.  The &quot;bd&quot; does require less forethought, but I don&#039;t know why that&#039;s more &quot;natural.&quot;

Let&#039;s look at the three methods mentioned for solving Lane&#039;s sum of ratios of polynomials.  

Here&#039;s the result of multiplying both sides by the product of the denominators and expanding.

y^5 - 7y^3 + 22y^2 + 32y - 48 = 0

which is a nice exercise in the Rational Roots Theorem, especially since the sum of the roots is zero.  

When we apply Tad&#039;s strategy, here&#039;s what we get. 

3y(y^2 + y - 2)(y^2 + 2y - 3) + 2(y^2 + 5y + 6)(y^2 + 2y - 3) = (2y-1)(y^2 + 5y + 6)(y^2 + y - 2)

3y(y+2)(y-1)(y+3)(y-1) + 2(y+2)(y+3)(y+3)(y-1) = (2y-1)(y+2)(y+3)(y+2)(y-1)

Now divide both sides by (y+2)(y+3)(y-1).  

3y(y-1) + 2(y+3) = (2y-1)(y+2)

y^2 - 4y + 8 = 0

Easier at the end, and a great occasion to talk about canceling only one of a the (y+2)&#039;s, one of the (y+3)&#039;s, and one of the (y-1)&#039;s.  

If we&#039;d used the least common denominator, we would have skipped straight to  3y(y-1) + 2(y+3) = (2y-1)(y+2).  

I understand wanting students to see the big picture and not get lost in the details, but here is where high-school students get lost in the details because their elementary-school teachers were trying to keep them from getting lost in the details.  

I would like the Standards to say that, every year, teachers need to review, remediate, practice, connect, and deepen students&#039; understanding of topics from previous years.  Then, in high school, students will be ready to move from ratios of integers to ratios of polynomials.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill et at, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to disagree, on several points.  </p>
<p>First, there IS a general formula for adding fractions using the least common denominator.  In a/b + c/d, let g=gcd(b,d).  Then there are relatively prime integers (or polynomials) e and f such that b=eg and d=fg.  </p>
<p>a/b + c/d = a/(eg) + c/(fg) = (af+ce)/(efg).  </p>
<p>The formula works for ratios of both integers and polynomials, and covers the case when g=1.  </p>
<p>There is no &#8220;the&#8221; general formula; there are two.  The one in the Standards is the general brute-force formula, like killing a fly with a bazooka.  The formula I&#8217;ve given is the general elegant formula, which uses the basic number theory the Standards say students should learn in sixth grade.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also going to disagree with Bill about the product of the denominators being the &#8220;natural common unit&#8230;the only common unit that exists in general.&#8221;  The &#8220;efg&#8221; above exists in general, because g can be 1.  The &#8220;bd&#8221; does require less forethought, but I don&#8217;t know why that&#8217;s more &#8220;natural.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at the three methods mentioned for solving Lane&#8217;s sum of ratios of polynomials.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the result of multiplying both sides by the product of the denominators and expanding.</p>
<p>y^5 &#8211; 7y^3 + 22y^2 + 32y &#8211; 48 = 0</p>
<p>which is a nice exercise in the Rational Roots Theorem, especially since the sum of the roots is zero.  </p>
<p>When we apply Tad&#8217;s strategy, here&#8217;s what we get. </p>
<p>3y(y^2 + y &#8211; 2)(y^2 + 2y &#8211; 3) + 2(y^2 + 5y + 6)(y^2 + 2y &#8211; 3) = (2y-1)(y^2 + 5y + 6)(y^2 + y &#8211; 2)</p>
<p>3y(y+2)(y-1)(y+3)(y-1) + 2(y+2)(y+3)(y+3)(y-1) = (2y-1)(y+2)(y+3)(y+2)(y-1)</p>
<p>Now divide both sides by (y+2)(y+3)(y-1).  </p>
<p>3y(y-1) + 2(y+3) = (2y-1)(y+2)</p>
<p>y^2 &#8211; 4y + 8 = 0</p>
<p>Easier at the end, and a great occasion to talk about canceling only one of a the (y+2)&#8217;s, one of the (y+3)&#8217;s, and one of the (y-1)&#8217;s.  </p>
<p>If we&#8217;d used the least common denominator, we would have skipped straight to  3y(y-1) + 2(y+3) = (2y-1)(y+2).  </p>
<p>I understand wanting students to see the big picture and not get lost in the details, but here is where high-school students get lost in the details because their elementary-school teachers were trying to keep them from getting lost in the details.  </p>
<p>I would like the Standards to say that, every year, teachers need to review, remediate, practice, connect, and deepen students&#8217; understanding of topics from previous years.  Then, in high school, students will be ready to move from ratios of integers to ratios of polynomials.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 17:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Julie, &lt;a href=&quot;http://illustrativemathematics.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Illustrative Mathematics&lt;/a&gt; will eventually have a collection of tasks of all sorts, and it will also be a place where you can interact with others and learn to create such tasks. I know we are not there yet, but it&#039;s worth keeping in mind.

Also, I wouldn&#039;t say that Phil was talking against traditional story problems, or in favor of messy problems, or indeed expressing a preference for any particular type of problem. Rather, he was suggesting that we focus on how a problem is used, whatever type it is. Story problems can be great learning problems, if students are not encouraged to solve them by key word search. And &quot;messy&quot; problems can be very formulaic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, <a href="http://illustrativemathematics.org" rel="nofollow">Illustrative Mathematics</a> will eventually have a collection of tasks of all sorts, and it will also be a place where you can interact with others and learn to create such tasks. I know we are not there yet, but it&#8217;s worth keeping in mind.</p>
<p>Also, I wouldn&#8217;t say that Phil was talking against traditional story problems, or in favor of messy problems, or indeed expressing a preference for any particular type of problem. Rather, he was suggesting that we focus on how a problem is used, whatever type it is. Story problems can be great learning problems, if students are not encouraged to solve them by key word search. And &#8220;messy&#8221; problems can be very formulaic.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1769</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 17:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the Progression is misleading here. In general students are adding fractions with like denominators in Grade 4. There is one place where they add fractions with unlike denominators:


&lt;blockquote&gt;4.NF.5: Express a fraction with denominator 10 as an equivalent fraction with denominator 100, and use this technique to add two fractions with respective denominators 10 and 100.* For example, express 3/10 as 30/100, and add 3/10+4/100=34/100. &lt;/blockquote&gt;


The footnote says:



&lt;blockquote&gt;* Students who can generate equivalent fractions can develop strategies for adding fractions with unlike denominators in general. But addition and subtraction with unlike denominators in general is not a requirement at this grade. &lt;/blockquote&gt;



So the 1/3 + 1/6 example is consistent with the standard and the footnote, but is not required.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Progression is misleading here. In general students are adding fractions with like denominators in Grade 4. There is one place where they add fractions with unlike denominators:</p>
<blockquote><p>4.NF.5: Express a fraction with denominator 10 as an equivalent fraction with denominator 100, and use this technique to add two fractions with respective denominators 10 and 100.* For example, express 3/10 as 30/100, and add 3/10+4/100=34/100. </p></blockquote>
<p>The footnote says:</p>
<blockquote><p>* Students who can generate equivalent fractions can develop strategies for adding fractions with unlike denominators in general. But addition and subtraction with unlike denominators in general is not a requirement at this grade. </p></blockquote>
<p>So the 1/3 + 1/6 example is consistent with the standard and the footnote, but is not required.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1768</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 17:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(1) The essential point of G-GPE.4 is to use coordinates to prove theorems; how far one goes with this depends on the curriculum as a whole, not only on this standard. That is, different curricula might spend different amounts of time on different standards. The Illustrative Mathematics project will eventually supply some examples.
(2) Same answer here; the standard certainly does not insist on the secant theorems, and a curriculum could satisfy the standards without them. But these are beautiful theorems, worth including if there is time.
(3) I think you meant G-GMD.4. Certainly, any shape is fair came, but your formulation makes me a bit nervous ... we don&#039;t want to get carried away with this. Again, the idea is to get kids thinking about shapes of cross sections. The idea is not to have some long exhaustive list of shapes and expect them to be able to deal with every single one on an assessment.

I&#039;ll answer the next three questions in a later post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(1) The essential point of G-GPE.4 is to use coordinates to prove theorems; how far one goes with this depends on the curriculum as a whole, not only on this standard. That is, different curricula might spend different amounts of time on different standards. The Illustrative Mathematics project will eventually supply some examples.<br />
(2) Same answer here; the standard certainly does not insist on the secant theorems, and a curriculum could satisfy the standards without them. But these are beautiful theorems, worth including if there is time.<br />
(3) I think you meant G-GMD.4. Certainly, any shape is fair came, but your formulation makes me a bit nervous &#8230; we don&#8217;t want to get carried away with this. Again, the idea is to get kids thinking about shapes of cross sections. The idea is not to have some long exhaustive list of shapes and expect them to be able to deal with every single one on an assessment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll answer the next three questions in a later post.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 16:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I get it!  .  The #1 topic that causes our Algebra 2 students to become overwhelmed and fail is over things like this and I really apprciate your taking the time to explain it in a way that makes sense to me.  Thanks for taking the time]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get it!  .  The #1 topic that causes our Algebra 2 students to become overwhelmed and fail is over things like this and I really apprciate your taking the time to explain it in a way that makes sense to me.  Thanks for taking the time</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1766</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 15:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;code&gt;&lt;/code&gt;I&#039;ve been thinking about how to respond to all this. I was just chatting with my colleague  Cody Patterson and he said it in a way that I found very useful: finding least common denominators is a strategy, not an essential component of fraction addition (either numerical or algebraic). It&#039;s important to separate out the task of understanding fraction addition as an operation from the task of finding efficient strategies one might use to find answers in special cases. We don&#039;t want students to think the strategies are the same thing as the operations themselves. Job one is understanding the operation. 

Tad summarizes that understanding well: in adding fractions you express each fraction in terms of a common unit. The natural common unit is the unit fraction whose denominator is the product of the denominators of the addends. And this is only common unit that exists in general, so it&#039;s the only one that leads to a general formula. All this is difficult enough conceptually; it muddies the waters to worry about special cases where you might be able to find a smaller common unit. Worse, it might make kids think that somehow finding least common denominators is an essential part of fraction addition (I&#039;ve certainly met students who seem to think that). And, since there is no formula for &quot;adding fractions by finding a least common denominator&quot;, insisting on it gets in the way arriving at a general formula; the general formula becomes something extra to memorize later, rather than an essential understanding of fraction addition as a general operation. Fraction addition becomes an arcane art. The calculation 

$latex \displaystyle \frac16 + \frac18 + \frac19 = \frac{174}{432}$

is 100% mathematically correct. There is not anything even a little bit wrong with it. Once kids have a solid understanding of fraction addition, and if there is time in the curriculum, it is worthwhile pointing out that the answer is equivalent to $latex \frac{29}{72}$ and exploring what strategies you might have used to get that answer. 

The same comments applies to Lane&#039;s original example. One strategy for solving this problem is to multiply both sides by the least common denominator. But as Tad pointed out, another reasonable strategy is to multiply both sides by the product of all the denominators and then cancel common factors from both sides of the equation before expanding. This takes slightly more ink, but provides an opportunity to discuss an important strategy in algebraic manipulation, namely the advantage sometimes of keeping expressions in factored form rather than blindly expanding them out. There are advantages to both strategies, but neither is sacred.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><code></code>I&#8217;ve been thinking about how to respond to all this. I was just chatting with my colleague  Cody Patterson and he said it in a way that I found very useful: finding least common denominators is a strategy, not an essential component of fraction addition (either numerical or algebraic). It&#8217;s important to separate out the task of understanding fraction addition as an operation from the task of finding efficient strategies one might use to find answers in special cases. We don&#8217;t want students to think the strategies are the same thing as the operations themselves. Job one is understanding the operation. </p>
<p>Tad summarizes that understanding well: in adding fractions you express each fraction in terms of a common unit. The natural common unit is the unit fraction whose denominator is the product of the denominators of the addends. And this is only common unit that exists in general, so it&#8217;s the only one that leads to a general formula. All this is difficult enough conceptually; it muddies the waters to worry about special cases where you might be able to find a smaller common unit. Worse, it might make kids think that somehow finding least common denominators is an essential part of fraction addition (I&#8217;ve certainly met students who seem to think that). And, since there is no formula for &#8220;adding fractions by finding a least common denominator&#8221;, insisting on it gets in the way arriving at a general formula; the general formula becomes something extra to memorize later, rather than an essential understanding of fraction addition as a general operation. Fraction addition becomes an arcane art. The calculation </p>
<p><img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=%5Cdisplaystyle+%5Cfrac16+%2B+%5Cfrac18+%2B+%5Cfrac19+%3D+%5Cfrac%7B174%7D%7B432%7D&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="&#92;displaystyle &#92;frac16 + &#92;frac18 + &#92;frac19 = &#92;frac{174}{432}" title="&#92;displaystyle &#92;frac16 + &#92;frac18 + &#92;frac19 = &#92;frac{174}{432}" class="latex" /></p>
<p>is 100% mathematically correct. There is not anything even a little bit wrong with it. Once kids have a solid understanding of fraction addition, and if there is time in the curriculum, it is worthwhile pointing out that the answer is equivalent to <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=%5Cfrac%7B29%7D%7B72%7D&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="&#92;frac{29}{72}" title="&#92;frac{29}{72}" class="latex" /> and exploring what strategies you might have used to get that answer. </p>
<p>The same comments applies to Lane&#8217;s original example. One strategy for solving this problem is to multiply both sides by the least common denominator. But as Tad pointed out, another reasonable strategy is to multiply both sides by the product of all the denominators and then cancel common factors from both sides of the equation before expanding. This takes slightly more ink, but provides an opportunity to discuss an important strategy in algebraic manipulation, namely the advantage sometimes of keeping expressions in factored form rather than blindly expanding them out. There are advantages to both strategies, but neither is sacred.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1765</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 14:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly!  I&#039;m so glad you succinctly summed it up here.  We should be building a continuum, stimulating the &quot;need to know&quot; for the next idea, instead of setting the kids up for a big leap of frustration.  Very few kids understand LCD in the abstract sense (rational eqns) if they haven&#039;t already grasped LCD numerically.  This is one way we lose a lot of Algebra 2 students. Decomposition is a basic building block for number sense so I don&#039;t understand why CCSS would leave this gap.  I think the only way it would make sense if we decided not to teach rational functions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly!  I&#8217;m so glad you succinctly summed it up here.  We should be building a continuum, stimulating the &#8220;need to know&#8221; for the next idea, instead of setting the kids up for a big leap of frustration.  Very few kids understand LCD in the abstract sense (rational eqns) if they haven&#8217;t already grasped LCD numerically.  This is one way we lose a lot of Algebra 2 students. Decomposition is a basic building block for number sense so I don&#8217;t understand why CCSS would leave this gap.  I think the only way it would make sense if we decided not to teach rational functions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Brad Burkman</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1764</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Burkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 05:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian &amp; Tad, 

I agree with you both, that &quot;when students see the need, that’s the best time to teach a relevant mathematical idea.&quot;  If I read Lane correctly, the concern of high school teachers (including myself) is that fraction addition in CCSS-M seems to stop in fifth grade.  In sixth grade students learn to find the lcm, but they don&#039;t apply it to fractions to find the lcd.  Then in high school, Tad throws them a sum of rational expressions whose elementary-school equivalent is 1/6 + 1/8 + 1/9.  Our students want to use 6*8*9 = 432 as the common denominator, when they could use 72.  Between fifth and tenth grade, students do not expand their understanding of fraction addition.  If in sixth or seventh grade we had them use their new skills in finding least common multiples to subtract 
     7/30 - 5/42 = 7(5*6)  - 5/(7*6) = (49 - 25)/(5*6*7) = 24/(5*6*7) = 4/35
then they&#039;d be ready for Lane&#039;s question in algebra.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian &amp; Tad, </p>
<p>I agree with you both, that &#8220;when students see the need, that’s the best time to teach a relevant mathematical idea.&#8221;  If I read Lane correctly, the concern of high school teachers (including myself) is that fraction addition in CCSS-M seems to stop in fifth grade.  In sixth grade students learn to find the lcm, but they don&#8217;t apply it to fractions to find the lcd.  Then in high school, Tad throws them a sum of rational expressions whose elementary-school equivalent is 1/6 + 1/8 + 1/9.  Our students want to use 6*8*9 = 432 as the common denominator, when they could use 72.  Between fifth and tenth grade, students do not expand their understanding of fraction addition.  If in sixth or seventh grade we had them use their new skills in finding least common multiples to subtract<br />
     7/30 &#8211; 5/42 = 7(5*6)  &#8211; 5/(7*6) = (49 &#8211; 25)/(5*6*7) = 24/(5*6*7) = 4/35<br />
then they&#8217;d be ready for Lane&#8217;s question in algebra.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Julie</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1763</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 17:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello! I just went through my first year of trying to implement the Common Core Math Standards for 8th grade and I do not feel like I did a great job. I just watched Phil Daro&#039;s video about how we teach to get answers instead of the math. I want to be that teacher that lets the students explore the math instead of me telling them how to get there. Do you know where I can find learning tasks, messy problems, thinking problems, what ever you want to call them, for 8th grade common core so the students in my class don&#039;t worry about answers and worry about the process? I know PARCC will be putting out sample tasks this summer, but I would love to start working on things NOW! :) I don&#039;t feel like I can &quot;create&quot; problems myself that are not a traditional type of story problem.
Thank you for your time, 
Julie Brandolino]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello! I just went through my first year of trying to implement the Common Core Math Standards for 8th grade and I do not feel like I did a great job. I just watched Phil Daro&#8217;s video about how we teach to get answers instead of the math. I want to be that teacher that lets the students explore the math instead of me telling them how to get there. Do you know where I can find learning tasks, messy problems, thinking problems, what ever you want to call them, for 8th grade common core so the students in my class don&#8217;t worry about answers and worry about the process? I know PARCC will be putting out sample tasks this summer, but I would love to start working on things NOW! <img src='http://commoncoretools.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I don&#8217;t feel like I can &#8220;create&#8221; problems myself that are not a traditional type of story problem.<br />
Thank you for your time,<br />
Julie Brandolino</p>
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		<title>Comment on May 25 &#8211; 27th Workshop Full by Ellen Whitesides</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen Whitesides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 15:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lynne,
Registered participants should have received an email last week detailing the location and shuttle schedules to the venue this weekend.  The location is:
12727 Highway 90
Luling, LA 70070
And shuttle buses (through an outside company, not the hotel) will be leaving hotels this afternoon at either 2:15 or 2:30 depending on the hotel.
Looking forward to seeing you this weekend!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynne,<br />
Registered participants should have received an email last week detailing the location and shuttle schedules to the venue this weekend.  The location is:<br />
12727 Highway 90<br />
Luling, LA 70070<br />
And shuttle buses (through an outside company, not the hotel) will be leaving hotels this afternoon at either 2:15 or 2:30 depending on the hotel.<br />
Looking forward to seeing you this weekend!</p>
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		<title>Comment on May 25 &#8211; 27th Workshop Full by Lynne</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/16/may-25-27th-workshop-full/#comment-1760</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 15:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But the Country Inn says they do not have a contract to transport us from the hotel to the &quot;PD facility in Luling&quot;--what ever that means.  Can you give us the actual address of the workshop PLEASE, or instructions on where to find out about the transportation?
Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the Country Inn says they do not have a contract to transport us from the hotel to the &#8220;PD facility in Luling&#8221;&#8211;what ever that means.  Can you give us the actual address of the workshop PLEASE, or instructions on where to find out about the transportation?<br />
Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Elaine</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-1759</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 14:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Bill, 
I&#039;m a math coach in Massachusetts and we use Everyday Math in our district.  We&#039;ve been having some good discussions around the fraction standards in K-3 and if or when fractions of collections should be introduced.  I can&#039;t find any direct mention of fractions of sets.  As I read the standards and the progressions document I&#039;m interpreting the emphasis to be on area and number line models - so where does that leave the set model? Could you clarify this?  Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,<br />
I&#8217;m a math coach in Massachusetts and we use Everyday Math in our district.  We&#8217;ve been having some good discussions around the fraction standards in K-3 and if or when fractions of collections should be introduced.  I can&#8217;t find any direct mention of fractions of sets.  As I read the standards and the progressions document I&#8217;m interpreting the emphasis to be on area and number line models &#8211; so where does that leave the set model? Could you clarify this?  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression on Ratios and Proportional Relationships by Christopher Danielson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Danielson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 01:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no association with Common Core, Lynda. But I&#039;ve read closely. &lt;a href=&quot;http://christopherdanielson.wordpress.com/2012/05/24/what-is-a-rate-common-core-revisited/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The answer is &quot;yes&quot;.&lt;/a&gt;

I don&#039;t fully understand why CCSS has been give the power to make up these sorts of definitions from whole cloth, but they have been given it nonetheless. And you have correctly interpreted their meaning here. I disagree that the distinction is a useful one for student learning, but since it will be tested, it will need to be taught.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no association with Common Core, Lynda. But I&#8217;ve read closely. <a href="http://christopherdanielson.wordpress.com/2012/05/24/what-is-a-rate-common-core-revisited/" rel="nofollow">The answer is &#8220;yes&#8221;.</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t fully understand why CCSS has been give the power to make up these sorts of definitions from whole cloth, but they have been given it nonetheless. And you have correctly interpreted their meaning here. I disagree that the distinction is a useful one for student learning, but since it will be tested, it will need to be taught.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 19:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your argument is well taken.  I would help them see the need for LCD as they need to work with larger denominators.  The frustration level we experience with the kids in high school doesn&#039;t need to be.  I would push for exploration of LCD a year after bd, beginning with adding fourths to halves with the LCD of 4ths instead of 8ths.   Shortly after that time, I believe they should be working with prime factorizations to find the LCD in order to avoid a lot of reducing in the end.  If they understand prime factorization, that tool bypasses a lot of mindless &quot;steps&quot; to confuse from Pre-Algebra through Algebra 2.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your argument is well taken.  I would help them see the need for LCD as they need to work with larger denominators.  The frustration level we experience with the kids in high school doesn&#8217;t need to be.  I would push for exploration of LCD a year after bd, beginning with adding fourths to halves with the LCD of 4ths instead of 8ths.   Shortly after that time, I believe they should be working with prime factorizations to find the LCD in order to avoid a lot of reducing in the end.  If they understand prime factorization, that tool bypasses a lot of mindless &#8220;steps&#8221; to confuse from Pre-Algebra through Algebra 2.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 19:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In order to cancel a factor from the numerator, of course, it has to be a common factor with the denominator, in essence &quot;1.&quot;   In solving rational equations, we sometimes get very messy numerators where we have to 1) combine like terms, 2) factor, 3) cancel.  If we have created higher power terms by not getting the LEAST common denominator, the students do not have the tools to easily factor them.  They would have factor by finding zeros in their grapher and dividing them out or apply the rational root theorem...very frustrating to throw all that into one problem.  If they can find the LCD, then it is very doable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order to cancel a factor from the numerator, of course, it has to be a common factor with the denominator, in essence &#8220;1.&#8221;   In solving rational equations, we sometimes get very messy numerators where we have to 1) combine like terms, 2) factor, 3) cancel.  If we have created higher power terms by not getting the LEAST common denominator, the students do not have the tools to easily factor them.  They would have factor by finding zeros in their grapher and dividing them out or apply the rational root theorem&#8230;very frustrating to throw all that into one problem.  If they can find the LCD, then it is very doable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Brian Cohen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1751</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 18:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol.  Thanks, Tad.  Your interpretation is consistent with mine... and your analogy is great!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol.  Thanks, Tad.  Your interpretation is consistent with mine&#8230; and your analogy is great!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-1750</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 18:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note the footnote on 4.NF.5: &quot;Students who can generate equivalent fractions can develop strategies for adding fractions with unlike denominators in general. But addition and subtraction with unlike denominators in general is not a requirement at this grade.&quot; I agree the progression is a little misleading here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note the footnote on 4.NF.5: &#8220;Students who can generate equivalent fractions can develop strategies for adding fractions with unlike denominators in general. But addition and subtraction with unlike denominators in general is not a requirement at this grade.&#8221; I agree the progression is a little misleading here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Tad W</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1749</link>
		<dc:creator>Tad W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 18:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I, too, was surprised when I read the statement mentioned by Eric in the draft progression document.  I think it is clear that 2/3 + 3/4 is in Grade 5, but 2/3 + 5/6 will be in Grade 4 according to the progression document but in Grade 5 if we just read the CCSS.  I supposed the progression documents are supposed to be an elaboration, maybe the authors of the CCSS meant to include 2/3 + 5/6 in Grade 4.

If you compare 2/3 + 3/4 and 2/3 + 5/6, perhaps 2/3 + 5/6 is easier procedurally (to find the common unit) but they are equal conceptually (let&#039;s make the unit the same).  So, comparing fractions with unlike denominator after learning how to create equivalent fractions (and learning how to add fractions like 2/3 + 5/6) but not add/subtract fractions with unlike denominators (where neither is a multiple of the other) is like having to stop an interesting story right before the end and told to wait till next year to finish it -- to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, was surprised when I read the statement mentioned by Eric in the draft progression document.  I think it is clear that 2/3 + 3/4 is in Grade 5, but 2/3 + 5/6 will be in Grade 4 according to the progression document but in Grade 5 if we just read the CCSS.  I supposed the progression documents are supposed to be an elaboration, maybe the authors of the CCSS meant to include 2/3 + 5/6 in Grade 4.</p>
<p>If you compare 2/3 + 3/4 and 2/3 + 5/6, perhaps 2/3 + 5/6 is easier procedurally (to find the common unit) but they are equal conceptually (let&#8217;s make the unit the same).  So, comparing fractions with unlike denominator after learning how to create equivalent fractions (and learning how to add fractions like 2/3 + 5/6) but not add/subtract fractions with unlike denominators (where neither is a multiple of the other) is like having to stop an interesting story right before the end and told to wait till next year to finish it &#8212; to me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Brian Cohen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1747</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 18:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Tad that, &quot;when students see the need, that’s the best time to teach a relevant mathematical idea.&quot;  And, the way he talks about introducing the addition of fractions with unlike denominators sounds right to me (with the use of visual fraction models to support understanding of the what&#039;s happening when we multiply both the numerator and the denominator of one fraction each by the same number).  But every 4th grade standard related to the addition or subtraction of fractions explicitly states &quot;with like denominators.&quot;  Another cluster does require students to find common denominators, but the only application of this that is stated in the 4th grade standards is to compare fractions.  The cluster on operations with fractions very clearly states &quot;with like denominators&quot; and, therefore, seems to exclude uncommon denominators.

5.NF.1 (&quot;Add and subtract fractions with unlike denominators...&quot;) is the first standard that explicitly addresses the addition and subtraction of fractions with unlike denominators.

Based on this, it seems to me that the quote from page 10 the Progression for NF that Eric raised (&quot;In Grade 4, students calculate sums of fractions with different denominators...&quot;) would refer to a natural extension of 4th grade standards, but is neither  required nor forbidden by the standards themselves.  

If this is not the correct interpretation, please advise soon, as I know a LOT of districts that will need to seriously alter plans!

Thanks,
Brian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Tad that, &#8220;when students see the need, that’s the best time to teach a relevant mathematical idea.&#8221;  And, the way he talks about introducing the addition of fractions with unlike denominators sounds right to me (with the use of visual fraction models to support understanding of the what&#8217;s happening when we multiply both the numerator and the denominator of one fraction each by the same number).  But every 4th grade standard related to the addition or subtraction of fractions explicitly states &#8220;with like denominators.&#8221;  Another cluster does require students to find common denominators, but the only application of this that is stated in the 4th grade standards is to compare fractions.  The cluster on operations with fractions very clearly states &#8220;with like denominators&#8221; and, therefore, seems to exclude uncommon denominators.</p>
<p>5.NF.1 (&#8220;Add and subtract fractions with unlike denominators&#8230;&#8221;) is the first standard that explicitly addresses the addition and subtraction of fractions with unlike denominators.</p>
<p>Based on this, it seems to me that the quote from page 10 the Progression for NF that Eric raised (&#8220;In Grade 4, students calculate sums of fractions with different denominators&#8230;&#8221;) would refer to a natural extension of 4th grade standards, but is neither  required nor forbidden by the standards themselves.  </p>
<p>If this is not the correct interpretation, please advise soon, as I know a LOT of districts that will need to seriously alter plans!</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Brian</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Tad W</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1746</link>
		<dc:creator>Tad W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 17:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I apologize for multiple posts, but I was also wondering about the example Lane gave.  After student multiply both sides of the equation with the product of 3 denominators, why do they multiply the terms out to get a higher order equations?  Why not factor those expressions that were the denominators?  Then, you have some factors that are common in all 3 terms, allowing us to cancel (divide) them out?  Then, you will have a quadratic equation at the end.  Wouldn&#039;t the whole process about equally complicated as finding the LCD?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize for multiple posts, but I was also wondering about the example Lane gave.  After student multiply both sides of the equation with the product of 3 denominators, why do they multiply the terms out to get a higher order equations?  Why not factor those expressions that were the denominators?  Then, you have some factors that are common in all 3 terms, allowing us to cancel (divide) them out?  Then, you will have a quadratic equation at the end.  Wouldn&#8217;t the whole process about equally complicated as finding the LCD?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Tad W</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1745</link>
		<dc:creator>Tad W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 17:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t teach HS, but I think a natural formula elementary children will derive is a/b + c/d = (ad + bc)/(bd).  In the way fractions are laid out in the CCSS, the line of reasoning goes something like this:
In Grades 3 &amp; 4, students learned that a/b is a pieces of 1/b units.  So, they find it relatively easy to calculate 3/5 + 4/5 because 3 1/5 units and 4 1/5 units together will be 3+4 1/5 units, or 7/5.  Then, in Grade 5, when they encounter 2/3 + 3/4, they would say, we can&#039;t because 2 and 3 refer to different units.  But, they learned in Grades 3 and 4, some fractions may look different but stand for the same numbers - and in Grade 4 they learned how to create equivalent fractions.  So, they could say, well, 2/3 doesn&#039;t always have to look that way (and 3/4 can look different, too).  So, they find a common unit that can be used to express both 2/3 and 3/4.  They realize 1/12 is an easy option since the way to create equivalent fractions is to multiply both the numerator and the denominator by the same number.  So, if you have two unlike denominators, then one easy common unit is to use the product of the denominator as the common units.

I tend to think when students see the need, that&#039;s the best time to teach a relevant mathematical idea.  If calculation involving rational expressions is where the usefulness of LCD comes in, then maybe that&#039;s when the idea should be discussed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t teach HS, but I think a natural formula elementary children will derive is a/b + c/d = (ad + bc)/(bd).  In the way fractions are laid out in the CCSS, the line of reasoning goes something like this:<br />
In Grades 3 &amp; 4, students learned that a/b is a pieces of 1/b units.  So, they find it relatively easy to calculate 3/5 + 4/5 because 3 1/5 units and 4 1/5 units together will be 3+4 1/5 units, or 7/5.  Then, in Grade 5, when they encounter 2/3 + 3/4, they would say, we can&#8217;t because 2 and 3 refer to different units.  But, they learned in Grades 3 and 4, some fractions may look different but stand for the same numbers &#8211; and in Grade 4 they learned how to create equivalent fractions.  So, they could say, well, 2/3 doesn&#8217;t always have to look that way (and 3/4 can look different, too).  So, they find a common unit that can be used to express both 2/3 and 3/4.  They realize 1/12 is an easy option since the way to create equivalent fractions is to multiply both the numerator and the denominator by the same number.  So, if you have two unlike denominators, then one easy common unit is to use the product of the denominator as the common units.</p>
<p>I tend to think when students see the need, that&#8217;s the best time to teach a relevant mathematical idea.  If calculation involving rational expressions is where the usefulness of LCD comes in, then maybe that&#8217;s when the idea should be discussed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Eric</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1744</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 16:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[4.NF.3 says, &quot;Understand a fraction a/b with a &gt; 1 as a sum of fractions 1/b.&quot;  This seems to be implying addition of fractions with LIKE denominators.  Then reading parts a,b,c,and d, it mentions LIKE denominators, but never UNLIKE denominators.  However, when reading the Progression document for NF, it says on pg. 10 under the Grade 5 heading, &quot;In Grade 4, students calculate sums of fractions with different denominators where one denominator is a divisor of the other, so that only one fraction has to be changed.&quot;  Then it gives an example of 1/3 + 1/6.  In all of the Grade 4 Progression, in the section titled &quot;Adding and subtracting fractions,&quot; it never mentions this idea of adding unlike denominators when one is the divisor of the other.  In fact, ALL of the examples show sums and differences with LIKE denominators.  Should we be giving 4th grade students problems and questions relating to sums of fractions with UNLIKE denominators.  I can see where 4.NF.3a could lend itself to this type of thinking, but with the root standard defining it as &quot;sums of fractions 1/b,&quot; this seems to be contradictory.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4.NF.3 says, &#8220;Understand a fraction a/b with a &gt; 1 as a sum of fractions 1/b.&#8221;  This seems to be implying addition of fractions with LIKE denominators.  Then reading parts a,b,c,and d, it mentions LIKE denominators, but never UNLIKE denominators.  However, when reading the Progression document for NF, it says on pg. 10 under the Grade 5 heading, &#8220;In Grade 4, students calculate sums of fractions with different denominators where one denominator is a divisor of the other, so that only one fraction has to be changed.&#8221;  Then it gives an example of 1/3 + 1/6.  In all of the Grade 4 Progression, in the section titled &#8220;Adding and subtracting fractions,&#8221; it never mentions this idea of adding unlike denominators when one is the divisor of the other.  In fact, ALL of the examples show sums and differences with LIKE denominators.  Should we be giving 4th grade students problems and questions relating to sums of fractions with UNLIKE denominators.  I can see where 4.NF.3a could lend itself to this type of thinking, but with the root standard defining it as &#8220;sums of fractions 1/b,&#8221; this seems to be contradictory.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lynn Selking</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1743</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn Selking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 14:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think as I study a bit more I can answer my own question.  Standards 1, 2, and 3 really are about the sequence and standards 4 and 5 are about how many and guidance about the range of number is given.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think as I study a bit more I can answer my own question.  Standards 1, 2, and 3 really are about the sequence and standards 4 and 5 are about how many and guidance about the range of number is given.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1742</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 14:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha!  Sounds like Dr. McCallum will need to start another page for that.  I have taught thru Calculus, but prefer analyzing how right-brainers can be taught to &quot;see&quot; what mathees see (hurray Smartboard).  A big help is learning to fluently decompose.  Working with high schoolers who have memorized and confused a bunch of rules and steps, I insist they break everything down to primes until they begin to discover the rules on their own:  LCD, GCF, working with exponents, factoring out perfect squares from radicals, rationalizing...always with primes until they see.  But connections are best built over time, not as a last-ditch effort to save them.  I believe CCSS is at least &#039;saying&#039; comprehension is better than memorized formulas. Whether it pans out that way I believe depends largely on this web site.
&quot;5.NF.1, the general formula for fraction addition is given as: a/b + c/d = (ad+bc)/bd&quot;
 is another formula to mess up; why not use multiplicative identity on primes til they see?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha!  Sounds like Dr. McCallum will need to start another page for that.  I have taught thru Calculus, but prefer analyzing how right-brainers can be taught to &#8220;see&#8221; what mathees see (hurray Smartboard).  A big help is learning to fluently decompose.  Working with high schoolers who have memorized and confused a bunch of rules and steps, I insist they break everything down to primes until they begin to discover the rules on their own:  LCD, GCF, working with exponents, factoring out perfect squares from radicals, rationalizing&#8230;always with primes until they see.  But connections are best built over time, not as a last-ditch effort to save them.  I believe CCSS is at least &#8216;saying&#8217; comprehension is better than memorized formulas. Whether it pans out that way I believe depends largely on this web site.<br />
&#8220;5.NF.1, the general formula for fraction addition is given as: a/b + c/d = (ad+bc)/bd&#8221;<br />
 is another formula to mess up; why not use multiplicative identity on primes til they see?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Brad Burkman</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1741</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Burkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 14:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lane, 

I&#039;m glad someone else is fighting the good fight.  Let&#039;s compare strategies for remediation.  

Brad, bburkman@lsmsa.edu.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lane, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad someone else is fighting the good fight.  Let&#8217;s compare strategies for remediation.  </p>
<p>Brad, <a href="mailto:bburkman@lsmsa.edu">bburkman@lsmsa.edu</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression on Ratios and Proportional Relationships by What is a rate? Common Core revisited &#124; Overthinking my teaching</title>
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		<dc:creator>What is a rate? Common Core revisited &#124; Overthinking my teaching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 11:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Progression on Ratios and Proportional Relationships by Lynda</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/09/12/progression-on-ratios-and-proportional-reasoning/#comment-1738</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 02:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are rate and unit rate interchangable? Or should a teacher define them for a middle school students as...
rate: a quantity derived from the ratio of two quantities that describes how many units of the first quantity corresponds to one unit of the second quantity
unit rate: the numerical part of a rate (e.g. For the rate 8 feet per second, the unit rate is 8.)

If these are correct, I would then ask for clarity on the phrase &quot;at that rate&quot; in this example from 6.RP.3b.
&quot;For example, if it took 7 hours to mow 4 lawns, then at that rate, how many lawns could be mowed in 35 hours? At what rate were lawns being mowed?&quot;

Does &quot;at that rate&quot; here really mean &quot;at the rate implied by the ratio of 7 hours to 4 lawns&quot;? You aren&#039;t suggesting that &quot;7 hours to mow 4 lawns&quot; is a rate? The rate, which you ask for in the last question, is &quot;7/4 hours per lawn&quot;? Correct?
I really am not trying to be difficult. Just trying to get clear definitions that teachers can use with their students and cirriculum developers and textbook publishers can use in the materials they produce for teachers and students. Your patience is appreciated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are rate and unit rate interchangable? Or should a teacher define them for a middle school students as&#8230;<br />
rate: a quantity derived from the ratio of two quantities that describes how many units of the first quantity corresponds to one unit of the second quantity<br />
unit rate: the numerical part of a rate (e.g. For the rate 8 feet per second, the unit rate is 8.)</p>
<p>If these are correct, I would then ask for clarity on the phrase &#8220;at that rate&#8221; in this example from 6.RP.3b.<br />
&#8220;For example, if it took 7 hours to mow 4 lawns, then at that rate, how many lawns could be mowed in 35 hours? At what rate were lawns being mowed?&#8221;</p>
<p>Does &#8220;at that rate&#8221; here really mean &#8220;at the rate implied by the ratio of 7 hours to 4 lawns&#8221;? You aren&#8217;t suggesting that &#8220;7 hours to mow 4 lawns&#8221; is a rate? The rate, which you ask for in the last question, is &#8220;7/4 hours per lawn&#8221;? Correct?<br />
I really am not trying to be difficult. Just trying to get clear definitions that teachers can use with their students and cirriculum developers and textbook publishers can use in the materials they produce for teachers and students. Your patience is appreciated.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1737</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 23:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the formula under discussion, bd is the &quot;easy way&quot; to find a common denominator.  However, students who are not fluent in converting to a least common denominator LCD are typically overwhelmed  when tasked with solving rational equations.  In general, if we have x/ab + y/bc = z/ac where a,b,c, are prime polynomials, the LCD is abc, not (abbcad).  For instance, if a student needs to solve (3y)/(y^2+5y+6)  +  2/(y^2 +y-2) = (2y-1)/(y^2+2y-3) and multiplies all 3  denominators together, then proceeds to multiply the numerators by all the denominators, they end up with high-degree polynomials in the numerator.  Yet if the students have been getting away with bd for years (because their lower level teachers don&#039;t know what&#039;s ahead) and we try to get them to find LCD, a small war ensues and we are accused of making things more difficult than they need to be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the formula under discussion, bd is the &#8220;easy way&#8221; to find a common denominator.  However, students who are not fluent in converting to a least common denominator LCD are typically overwhelmed  when tasked with solving rational equations.  In general, if we have x/ab + y/bc = z/ac where a,b,c, are prime polynomials, the LCD is abc, not (abbcad).  For instance, if a student needs to solve (3y)/(y^2+5y+6)  +  2/(y^2 +y-2) = (2y-1)/(y^2+2y-3) and multiplies all 3  denominators together, then proceeds to multiply the numerators by all the denominators, they end up with high-degree polynomials in the numerator.  Yet if the students have been getting away with bd for years (because their lower level teachers don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s ahead) and we try to get them to find LCD, a small war ensues and we are accused of making things more difficult than they need to be.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression on Ratios and Proportional Relationships by Lynda</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/09/12/progression-on-ratios-and-proportional-reasoning/#comment-1736</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 23:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How then should teachers define the difference between rate and unit rate for the middle school student?]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Illustrative Mathematics by Resources for Ogden, Utah High School Mathematics Workshop May 29, 30, 31, 2012 &#124; WatsonMath.com</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/illustrative-mathematics/#comment-1735</link>
		<dc:creator>Resources for Ogden, Utah High School Mathematics Workshop May 29, 30, 31, 2012 &#124; WatsonMath.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 22:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 22:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems my question might have gotten stuck in the moderation queue, so I&#039;m reposting here and would love some advice :)

Hi! Thanks for providing the opportunity to ask questions about the Common Core Standards. I just wanted to clarify a few things in the high school standards:

(1) G-GPE.4 Students are asked to “Use coordinates to prove simple geometric theorems algebraically” and the given examples are about proving that four points form a rectangle or that a point lies on a circle. Are there other types of “simple geometric theorems” that students should be familiar with, or guidance I can use to interpret the word “simple”?

(2) G-GC.2 Similarly, students are asked to “identify and describe relationships…” in circles. Should this include secant theorems, or just the more obvious angle theorems and tangent theorems?

(3) G-GMD.1 reads “Identify the shapes of two-dimensional cross-sections of three-dimensional
objects.” Since 7.G.3 reads “Describe the two-dimensional figures that result from slicing three-dimensional figures” and specifies right rectangular prisms and right rectangular pyramids, is it safe to assume that the high school standard includes cross-sections of any and all 3D objects beyond right rectangular prisms and right rectangular pyramids?

(4) I’m not seeing solving absolute value equations (e.g. &#124;x – 3&#124; = 5) in the standards, although I do see absolute value of real numbers in middle school and then graphs of absolute value functions in high school. Is it implied but not explicitly required that students should be able to solve absolute value equations?

(5) A-APR.3 and F-IF.7 use the language of “when suitable factorizations are available” to describe when students should be finding roots of polynomial and rational functions. Does this mean that students should be comfortable finding factors using GCF, grouping, sums/differences of squares, but not long division? Or not long division with remainders? Where do we draw the line with what is “suitable”?

(6) I see references to the properties of operations (commutative, associative, etc.) in lower elementary standards about addition and multiplication, and in high school standards relating to complex numbers and matrices, but not as they relate to algebraic expressions. Can I interpret this to mean that while students should be familiar with and able to flexibly use the properties, they will not be assessed on being able to name specific properties?

Thank you so much for your time and help!]]></description>
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<p>Hi! Thanks for providing the opportunity to ask questions about the Common Core Standards. I just wanted to clarify a few things in the high school standards:</p>
<p>(1) G-GPE.4 Students are asked to “Use coordinates to prove simple geometric theorems algebraically” and the given examples are about proving that four points form a rectangle or that a point lies on a circle. Are there other types of “simple geometric theorems” that students should be familiar with, or guidance I can use to interpret the word “simple”?</p>
<p>(2) G-GC.2 Similarly, students are asked to “identify and describe relationships…” in circles. Should this include secant theorems, or just the more obvious angle theorems and tangent theorems?</p>
<p>(3) G-GMD.1 reads “Identify the shapes of two-dimensional cross-sections of three-dimensional<br />
objects.” Since 7.G.3 reads “Describe the two-dimensional figures that result from slicing three-dimensional figures” and specifies right rectangular prisms and right rectangular pyramids, is it safe to assume that the high school standard includes cross-sections of any and all 3D objects beyond right rectangular prisms and right rectangular pyramids?</p>
<p>(4) I’m not seeing solving absolute value equations (e.g. |x – 3| = 5) in the standards, although I do see absolute value of real numbers in middle school and then graphs of absolute value functions in high school. Is it implied but not explicitly required that students should be able to solve absolute value equations?</p>
<p>(5) A-APR.3 and F-IF.7 use the language of “when suitable factorizations are available” to describe when students should be finding roots of polynomial and rational functions. Does this mean that students should be comfortable finding factors using GCF, grouping, sums/differences of squares, but not long division? Or not long division with remainders? Where do we draw the line with what is “suitable”?</p>
<p>(6) I see references to the properties of operations (commutative, associative, etc.) in lower elementary standards about addition and multiplication, and in high school standards relating to complex numbers and matrices, but not as they relate to algebraic expressions. Can I interpret this to mean that while students should be familiar with and able to flexibly use the properties, they will not be assessed on being able to name specific properties?</p>
<p>Thank you so much for your time and help!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression on Ratios and Proportional Relationships by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/09/12/progression-on-ratios-and-proportional-reasoning/#comment-1732</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 21:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lynda, these terms are defined in the progressions document that started this thread, here&lt;/a&gt;, on pages 2&#8211;3. Your first and third definitions are basically the same as the ones given in the progression, but the second definition is different. First, the standards do not make a distinction in terminology based on whether the units are the same or not. Second, a rate is not a ratio, rather a rate is a quantity that is derived from the ratio (e.g. the ratio 80 feet for every 10 seconds has an associated rate of 8 feet per second).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynda, these terms are defined in the progressions document that started this thread, here, on pages 2&ndash;3. Your first and third definitions are basically the same as the ones given in the progression, but the second definition is different. First, the standards do not make a distinction in terminology based on whether the units are the same or not. Second, a rate is not a ratio, rather a rate is a quantity that is derived from the ratio (e.g. the ratio 80 feet for every 10 seconds has an associated rate of 8 feet per second).</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1731</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 21:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lane, I don&#039;t think I understand the question, can you give an example?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lane, I don&#8217;t think I understand the question, can you give an example?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1730</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 21:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really, it should be $latex \frac{a}{b} + \frac{c}{d} = \frac{ad + bc}{bd}$, but the typesetting was limited. I can see your point that there should be been extra parentheses around the $latex bd$ when the fraction was shilled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, it should be <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=%5Cfrac%7Ba%7D%7Bb%7D+%2B+%5Cfrac%7Bc%7D%7Bd%7D+%3D+%5Cfrac%7Bad+%2B+bc%7D%7Bbd%7D&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="&#92;frac{a}{b} + &#92;frac{c}{d} = &#92;frac{ad + bc}{bd}" title="&#92;frac{a}{b} + &#92;frac{c}{d} = &#92;frac{ad + bc}{bd}" class="latex" />, but the typesetting was limited. I can see your point that there should be been extra parentheses around the <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=bd&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="bd" title="bd" class="latex" /> when the fraction was shilled.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1729</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 20:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note that the standard calls for you to make the interpretation in terms of a context. That&#039;s important. Given a naked expression like $latex (x+2)(x-3)$ there&#039;s not much that you can say about the factors except that they are factors. But an expression like $latex P(1+r)$ might arise in a context where an amount of money $latex P$ is increased by an interest rate $latex r$. Then the interpretation would go beyond just recognizing $latex P$ and $latex 1+r$ as factors, to include relating each factor to the context and to the way interest is computed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that the standard calls for you to make the interpretation in terms of a context. That&#8217;s important. Given a naked expression like <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=%28x%2B2%29%28x-3%29&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="(x+2)(x-3)" title="(x+2)(x-3)" class="latex" /> there&#8217;s not much that you can say about the factors except that they are factors. But an expression like <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=P%281%2Br%29&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="P(1+r)" title="P(1+r)" class="latex" /> might arise in a context where an amount of money <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=P&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="P" title="P" class="latex" /> is increased by an interest rate <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=r&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="r" title="r" class="latex" />. Then the interpretation would go beyond just recognizing <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=P&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="P" title="P" class="latex" /> and <img src="//s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=1%2Br&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000&#038;s=0" alt="1+r" title="1+r" class="latex" /> as factors, to include relating each factor to the context and to the way interest is computed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1728</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 20:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The high school standards are not arranged into courses. States wanted this flexibility, so that some could pursue a traditional sequence and some could pursue an integrated sequence. That said, I think you&#039;ll begin to find more uniformity once the assessment consortia come out with high school course boundaries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The high school standards are not arranged into courses. States wanted this flexibility, so that some could pursue a traditional sequence and some could pursue an integrated sequence. That said, I think you&#8217;ll begin to find more uniformity once the assessment consortia come out with high school course boundaries.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1727</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 20:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This happens in Grade 4: 

4.OA.3 Solve multistep word problems posed with whole numbers and having whole-number answers using the four operations, including problems in which remainders must be interpreted. Represent these problems using equations with a letter standing for the unknown quantity. Assess the reasonableness of answers using mental computation and estimation strategies including rounding.

and

4.NBT.6 Find whole-number quotients and remainders with up to four-digit dividends and one-digit divisors, using strategies based on place value, the properties of operations, and/or the relationship between multiplication and division. Illustrate and explain the calculation by using equations, rectangular arrays, and/or area models.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This happens in Grade 4: </p>
<p>4.OA.3 Solve multistep word problems posed with whole numbers and having whole-number answers using the four operations, including problems in which remainders must be interpreted. Represent these problems using equations with a letter standing for the unknown quantity. Assess the reasonableness of answers using mental computation and estimation strategies including rounding.</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>4.NBT.6 Find whole-number quotients and remainders with up to four-digit dividends and one-digit divisors, using strategies based on place value, the properties of operations, and/or the relationship between multiplication and division. Illustrate and explain the calculation by using equations, rectangular arrays, and/or area models.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1726</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 15:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My concern is when do they begin to understand LCD because that memorized formula is a huge stumbling block to Algebra 2 students working with rational expressions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My concern is when do they begin to understand LCD because that memorized formula is a huge stumbling block to Algebra 2 students working with rational expressions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Brad Burkman</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1725</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Burkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 15:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill, 
In 5.NF.1, the general formula for fraction addition is given as:
        a/b + c/d = (ad+bc)/bd
I would write it as:
      (ad+bc)/(bd)   
I agree that we all know the order of operations that the author intended, but is it clear from what is written, and a good example of how to write fractions?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
In 5.NF.1, the general formula for fraction addition is given as:<br />
        a/b + c/d = (ad+bc)/bd<br />
I would write it as:<br />
      (ad+bc)/(bd)<br />
I agree that we all know the order of operations that the author intended, but is it clear from what is written, and a good example of how to write fractions?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Alternative to Appendix A &#8211; Suggested High School Courses &#124; WatsonMath.com</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1720</link>
		<dc:creator>Alternative to Appendix A &#8211; Suggested High School Courses &#124; WatsonMath.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 21:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] McCallum&#8217;s posted on his blog Tools for the Common Core a suggested sequence for arranging the high school standards into courses.    This work is different from the Appendix A in the CCSSM document. I haven&#8217;t looked closely [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] McCallum&#8217;s posted on his blog Tools for the Common Core a suggested sequence for arranging the high school standards into courses.    This work is different from the Appendix A in the CCSSM document. I haven&#8217;t looked closely [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Phil Daro on learning mathematics through problem solving by Nancy</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/05/21/phil-daro-on-learning-mathematics-through-problem-solving/#comment-1719</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 18:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Change from &quot;Answer Getting&quot; to &quot;Preparing for Algebra&quot; is well demonstrated.  I look forward to sharing Phil&#039;s video with teachers and principals.  Thank you for sharing this with us.    ~Nancy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Change from &#8220;Answer Getting&#8221; to &#8220;Preparing for Algebra&#8221; is well demonstrated.  I look forward to sharing Phil&#8217;s video with teachers and principals.  Thank you for sharing this with us.    ~Nancy</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lynn Selking</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1716</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn Selking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 16:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this wonderful help, Bill.
Regarding K.CC.1 &quot;Count to 100 by ones and by tens,&quot; I am wondering if the idea is for the student to be able to speak the two sequences rather than actually count objects.  Sometimes, students live through 90 hours of calendar time per year for a number of years and then when asked to count a collection by fives, point to each object and speak a multiple of five.  They don&#039;t use the sequence to actually organize the objects in the collection and find out how many there are.  So instead of 20 objects, they will respond with 100 objects. 

It doesn&#039;t seem right to expect a kindergarten student to manipulate 100 objects into groups of 10 to count them by tens.  Can you give some guidance?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this wonderful help, Bill.<br />
Regarding K.CC.1 &#8220;Count to 100 by ones and by tens,&#8221; I am wondering if the idea is for the student to be able to speak the two sequences rather than actually count objects.  Sometimes, students live through 90 hours of calendar time per year for a number of years and then when asked to count a collection by fives, point to each object and speak a multiple of five.  They don&#8217;t use the sequence to actually organize the objects in the collection and find out how many there are.  So instead of 20 objects, they will respond with 100 objects. </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t seem right to expect a kindergarten student to manipulate 100 objects into groups of 10 to count them by tens.  Can you give some guidance?</p>
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		<title>Comment on MARS tasks by Ellen Whitesides</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/02/06/mars-tasks/#comment-1698</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen Whitesides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 21:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Stephanie,

I think lots of people are having similar trouble interpreting this standard, and the others in this domain.  I think this particular task on Illustrative Mathematics does a good job, but you should check out the other tasks in this task set as well.  This is a good place to direct people that have this question.

http://illustrativemathematics.org/illustrations/436]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephanie,</p>
<p>I think lots of people are having similar trouble interpreting this standard, and the others in this domain.  I think this particular task on Illustrative Mathematics does a good job, but you should check out the other tasks in this task set as well.  This is a good place to direct people that have this question.</p>
<p><a href="http://illustrativemathematics.org/illustrations/436" rel="nofollow">http://illustrativemathematics.org/illustrations/436</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1684</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 15:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fantastic.  This will give me some additional summer reading!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic.  This will give me some additional summer reading!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Sarah Renninger</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1660</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Renninger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 23:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PARCC&#039;s &quot;major clusters&quot; are not the same as the critical areas of the Common Core.
I&#039;m confused!  Can you help explain?!
Sarah Renninger
Math Coach
New Jersey]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PARCC&#8217;s &#8220;major clusters&#8221; are not the same as the critical areas of the Common Core.<br />
I&#8217;m confused!  Can you help explain?!<br />
Sarah Renninger<br />
Math Coach<br />
New Jersey</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression on Ratios and Proportional Relationships by Lynda</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/09/12/progression-on-ratios-and-proportional-reasoning/#comment-1659</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 19:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, inquiring minds want to know--what do the CCSS standards suggest as standard definitions for these terms: ratio, rate, unit rate? Can anyone nail those definitions down? What about these?
ratio: describes the multiplicative relationship between two quantities
rate: a ratio of two quantitites with different units
unit rate: a rate that describes how many units of the first quantity corresponds to one unit of the second quantity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, inquiring minds want to know&#8211;what do the CCSS standards suggest as standard definitions for these terms: ratio, rate, unit rate? Can anyone nail those definitions down? What about these?<br />
ratio: describes the multiplicative relationship between two quantities<br />
rate: a ratio of two quantitites with different units<br />
unit rate: a rate that describes how many units of the first quantity corresponds to one unit of the second quantity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Rey</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1651</link>
		<dc:creator>Rey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 01:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Dr.  McCallum

We hit a snag with this standard:
A-SSE.1 - Interpret expressions that represent a quantity in terms of its context.
Interpret parts of an expression, such as terms, factors, and coefficients. 
Interpret complicated expressions by viewing one or more of their parts as a single entity. For example, interpret P(1+r)n as the product of P and a factor not depending on P.
 
Our question is....What does the word &quot;interpret parts of an expression such as factors&quot; here mean? How does one interpret a factor? Does this standard merely mean that we identify parts of an expression? If that is the case, why is the wording used &quot;interpret&quot; instead of &quot;describe&quot; or &quot;identify?&quot;

Thank you :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dr.  McCallum</p>
<p>We hit a snag with this standard:<br />
A-SSE.1 &#8211; Interpret expressions that represent a quantity in terms of its context.<br />
Interpret parts of an expression, such as terms, factors, and coefficients.<br />
Interpret complicated expressions by viewing one or more of their parts as a single entity. For example, interpret P(1+r)n as the product of P and a factor not depending on P.</p>
<p>Our question is&#8230;.What does the word &#8220;interpret parts of an expression such as factors&#8221; here mean? How does one interpret a factor? Does this standard merely mean that we identify parts of an expression? If that is the case, why is the wording used &#8220;interpret&#8221; instead of &#8220;describe&#8221; or &#8220;identify?&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you <img src='http://commoncoretools.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Cathy Kessel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Kessel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 00:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lane, I know of three US sources of textbooks from other countries (which I&#039;ve listed below). I&#039;m trying to be brief here, but will try to put something more comprehensive on my blog in the next few days.

I think your question splits into three parts: 

1. the term &quot;progression.&quot; The terms &quot;learning progression&quot; and (related but not identical) &quot;learning trajectory&quot; seem to be inventions of US mathematics education researchers. 

2. the concept of &quot;progression.&quot; in my opinion, the idea of &quot;learning progression&quot; is implicit in textbooks and other curriculum documents from outside the US. For example, check out the discussion of the central sequence of the knowledge package for subtraction with regrouping in Liping Ma&#039;s book Knowing and Teaching Elementary Mathematics that starts on p. 15 or for the knowledge package on multidigit multiplication that starts on p. 45 (you can see these via Google Books). 

3. the content and order of the CCSS progressions as compared with those of other countries. The CCSS states two types of sources in the list of works consulted. These include: documents of other countries (and analyses of those documents), articles on US research on learning trajectories. So, I think the short answer is yes, the CCSS progressions are a US invention, combining US research and progressions from other countries. However, as the work of Schmidt and others points out, progressions in those other countries aren&#039;t all that different from each other (this of course depends on the level of detail). 

Many other countries do not have &quot;standards&quot; but have documents which are more or less comparable with names like &quot;course of study&quot; or &quot;syllabus.&quot; Links to those for several countries (including Japan and Hong Kong) are here: http://hrd.apec.org/index.php/Mathematics_Standards_in_APEC_Economies

You don&#039;t need to pay money for textbooks to get evidence about progressions and the CCSS. There are two types of sources: US research on learning trajectories and documents of other countries (and analyses of those documents). Just to be brief (or at least not incredibly long), I&#039;ll only comment on the latter, but note that both types are listed in the &quot;works consulted&quot; in the CCSS. 

Many other countries do not have &quot;standards&quot; but have documents which are more or less comparable with names like &quot;course of study&quot; or &quot;syllabus.&quot; Links to those for several countries (including Japan and Hong Kong) are here: http://hrd.apec.org/index.php/Mathematics_Standards_in_APEC_Economies

I&#039;ve discussed comparisons of CCSS and documents from other countries on my blog: http://mathedck.wordpress.com/2011/09/06/strange-accounts-of-the-common-core-state-standards/

Here are the textbook sources that I know. Note that they aren&#039;t necessarily going show things that are identical to what&#039;s in the Progressions (for example, there&#039;s no guarantee that terminology will be identical to the US or even among other countries), but there&#039;s a lot of resemblance).

Singapore Math (www.singaporemath.com) has Singapore textbooks (which were originally written for English-speaking Singapore students) adapted for the US. I think this mainly means that the names of things and British spelling and terms (e.g., &quot;ring it&quot; for &quot;circle it&quot;) are adapted to a US audience. I don&#039;t think they have the teachers manuals for the books. (I do, and I find them useful.) 

The University of Chicago School Mathematics Project (http://ucsmp.uchicago.edu/resources/translations/) has translations of Japanese textbooks for grades 7-9 and Russian grades 1-3. (It says that the American Mathematical Society has translations of Japanese textbooks for later grades, but I didn&#039;t see them on the AMS web site and suspect that they may have sold out recently when they were on sale.)

Global Education Resources (GER, http://www.globaledresources.com/) has translations of Japanese textbooks for grades 1-6. It&#039;s also got translations of the teaching guides for grades 1-6 and for grades 7-9, and lots of other things, some of which are free of charge. You can download (free of charge) some translations of the teachers manuals for one textbook series that GER translated from http://lessonresearch.net/nsf_toolkit.html. These are really nice (I worked on editing the translations) as are the textbooks. You can get a sense of what might be called a &quot;progressions way of thinking&quot; in Learning Across Boundaries: U.S.–Japan Collaboration in Mathematics, Science and Technology Education (free and downloadable at http://www.lessonresearch.net/LOB1.pdf). For example, check out the piece that begins on p. 261. In discussing &quot;research lessons&quot; (special lessons created by groups of Japanese teachers as a result of &quot;lesson study&quot;), a Japanese professor of mathematics education says: 

A research lesson is only one lesson. However, in doing research lessons we are not thinking
about only one lesson. We need to think about the entire unit and how it&#039;s related to other
grade levels. That is very important.

He continues (pp. 262-266) by illustrating how that might be done for a lesson on estimating the area of a circle, using excerpts from the GER translations of Japanese textbooks. 

Sorry not to put live links, but it is time consuming and I seem not be doing well with this recently (maybe the blog interface has changed).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lane, I know of three US sources of textbooks from other countries (which I&#8217;ve listed below). I&#8217;m trying to be brief here, but will try to put something more comprehensive on my blog in the next few days.</p>
<p>I think your question splits into three parts: </p>
<p>1. the term &#8220;progression.&#8221; The terms &#8220;learning progression&#8221; and (related but not identical) &#8220;learning trajectory&#8221; seem to be inventions of US mathematics education researchers. </p>
<p>2. the concept of &#8220;progression.&#8221; in my opinion, the idea of &#8220;learning progression&#8221; is implicit in textbooks and other curriculum documents from outside the US. For example, check out the discussion of the central sequence of the knowledge package for subtraction with regrouping in Liping Ma&#8217;s book Knowing and Teaching Elementary Mathematics that starts on p. 15 or for the knowledge package on multidigit multiplication that starts on p. 45 (you can see these via Google Books). </p>
<p>3. the content and order of the CCSS progressions as compared with those of other countries. The CCSS states two types of sources in the list of works consulted. These include: documents of other countries (and analyses of those documents), articles on US research on learning trajectories. So, I think the short answer is yes, the CCSS progressions are a US invention, combining US research and progressions from other countries. However, as the work of Schmidt and others points out, progressions in those other countries aren&#8217;t all that different from each other (this of course depends on the level of detail). </p>
<p>Many other countries do not have &#8220;standards&#8221; but have documents which are more or less comparable with names like &#8220;course of study&#8221; or &#8220;syllabus.&#8221; Links to those for several countries (including Japan and Hong Kong) are here: <a href="http://hrd.apec.org/index.php/Mathematics_Standards_in_APEC_Economies" rel="nofollow">http://hrd.apec.org/index.php/Mathematics_Standards_in_APEC_Economies</a></p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to pay money for textbooks to get evidence about progressions and the CCSS. There are two types of sources: US research on learning trajectories and documents of other countries (and analyses of those documents). Just to be brief (or at least not incredibly long), I&#8217;ll only comment on the latter, but note that both types are listed in the &#8220;works consulted&#8221; in the CCSS. </p>
<p>Many other countries do not have &#8220;standards&#8221; but have documents which are more or less comparable with names like &#8220;course of study&#8221; or &#8220;syllabus.&#8221; Links to those for several countries (including Japan and Hong Kong) are here: <a href="http://hrd.apec.org/index.php/Mathematics_Standards_in_APEC_Economies" rel="nofollow">http://hrd.apec.org/index.php/Mathematics_Standards_in_APEC_Economies</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve discussed comparisons of CCSS and documents from other countries on my blog: <a href="http://mathedck.wordpress.com/2011/09/06/strange-accounts-of-the-common-core-state-standards/" rel="nofollow">http://mathedck.wordpress.com/2011/09/06/strange-accounts-of-the-common-core-state-standards/</a></p>
<p>Here are the textbook sources that I know. Note that they aren&#8217;t necessarily going show things that are identical to what&#8217;s in the Progressions (for example, there&#8217;s no guarantee that terminology will be identical to the US or even among other countries), but there&#8217;s a lot of resemblance).</p>
<p>Singapore Math (www.singaporemath.com) has Singapore textbooks (which were originally written for English-speaking Singapore students) adapted for the US. I think this mainly means that the names of things and British spelling and terms (e.g., &#8220;ring it&#8221; for &#8220;circle it&#8221;) are adapted to a US audience. I don&#8217;t think they have the teachers manuals for the books. (I do, and I find them useful.) </p>
<p>The University of Chicago School Mathematics Project (<a href="http://ucsmp.uchicago.edu/resources/translations/" rel="nofollow">http://ucsmp.uchicago.edu/resources/translations/</a>) has translations of Japanese textbooks for grades 7-9 and Russian grades 1-3. (It says that the American Mathematical Society has translations of Japanese textbooks for later grades, but I didn&#8217;t see them on the AMS web site and suspect that they may have sold out recently when they were on sale.)</p>
<p>Global Education Resources (GER, <a href="http://www.globaledresources.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.globaledresources.com/</a>) has translations of Japanese textbooks for grades 1-6. It&#8217;s also got translations of the teaching guides for grades 1-6 and for grades 7-9, and lots of other things, some of which are free of charge. You can download (free of charge) some translations of the teachers manuals for one textbook series that GER translated from <a href="http://lessonresearch.net/nsf_toolkit.html" rel="nofollow">http://lessonresearch.net/nsf_toolkit.html</a>. These are really nice (I worked on editing the translations) as are the textbooks. You can get a sense of what might be called a &#8220;progressions way of thinking&#8221; in Learning Across Boundaries: U.S.–Japan Collaboration in Mathematics, Science and Technology Education (free and downloadable at <a href="http://www.lessonresearch.net/LOB1.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.lessonresearch.net/LOB1.pdf</a>). For example, check out the piece that begins on p. 261. In discussing &#8220;research lessons&#8221; (special lessons created by groups of Japanese teachers as a result of &#8220;lesson study&#8221;), a Japanese professor of mathematics education says: </p>
<p>A research lesson is only one lesson. However, in doing research lessons we are not thinking<br />
about only one lesson. We need to think about the entire unit and how it&#8217;s related to other<br />
grade levels. That is very important.</p>
<p>He continues (pp. 262-266) by illustrating how that might be done for a lesson on estimating the area of a circle, using excerpts from the GER translations of Japanese textbooks. </p>
<p>Sorry not to put live links, but it is time consuming and I seem not be doing well with this recently (maybe the blog interface has changed).</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1641</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 21:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The The High School Math Scope and Sequence that I&#039;ve seen using your website has Exponential Functions and Rational and Polynomial Functions in Algebra 2, but New York State has them in Algebra 1.  The Common Core isn&#039;t so common, anymore!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The The High School Math Scope and Sequence that I&#8217;ve seen using your website has Exponential Functions and Rational and Polynomial Functions in Algebra 2, but New York State has them in Algebra 1.  The Common Core isn&#8217;t so common, anymore!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Illustrative Mathematics Project by Melisa Hancock</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/01/16/the-illustrative-mathematics-project/#comment-1639</link>
		<dc:creator>Melisa Hancock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 19:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m planning a math academy this summer for K-8 teachers.  We will be delving deep into the progressions documents for the different grade levels and begin to identify those &quot;Knowledge Packages&quot; (referred to by Liping Ma) as a useful way to clairy the ideas that students must understand in mathematics content.   We will be focusing on 5 aspects of the Knowledge Packages: 1)Concepts, 2)Skills, 3)Representations, 4)Strategies, and 5)Mathematical Language (From book: Small Steps, Big Changes, by Confer and Ramirez).  I want to use these &quot;aspects&quot; to help teachers organize their thinking about math topics, as this will give them a structure for asking the same FIVE questions for all math topics...........and use the progressions as a tool in doing this.  Then, we will plan lessons that address these aspects, formative assessments, interventions, etc. etc.  So, that leads me to these questions: Have any of you used the progressions documents  in professional development of teachers?  If so, would you be willing to share with me what you did, guiding questions you used, etc . etc., suggestions, comments, etc?    THANKS!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m planning a math academy this summer for K-8 teachers.  We will be delving deep into the progressions documents for the different grade levels and begin to identify those &#8220;Knowledge Packages&#8221; (referred to by Liping Ma) as a useful way to clairy the ideas that students must understand in mathematics content.   We will be focusing on 5 aspects of the Knowledge Packages: 1)Concepts, 2)Skills, 3)Representations, 4)Strategies, and 5)Mathematical Language (From book: Small Steps, Big Changes, by Confer and Ramirez).  I want to use these &#8220;aspects&#8221; to help teachers organize their thinking about math topics, as this will give them a structure for asking the same FIVE questions for all math topics&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..and use the progressions as a tool in doing this.  Then, we will plan lessons that address these aspects, formative assessments, interventions, etc. etc.  So, that leads me to these questions: Have any of you used the progressions documents  in professional development of teachers?  If so, would you be willing to share with me what you did, guiding questions you used, etc . etc., suggestions, comments, etc?    THANKS!</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1638</link>
		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 18:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A question arose today regarding when to introduce division problems with remainders. Thoughts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question arose today regarding when to introduce division problems with remainders. Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression on Ratios and Proportional Relationships by Melanie</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/09/12/progression-on-ratios-and-proportional-reasoning/#comment-1636</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 16:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have always found the use of fraction notation for part-part ratios to be very confusing.  If I am going to represent 2 red chips to 3 blue chips as 2/3, I want to know that the actual number 2/3 has to do with it.  To my way of thinking, every ratio is a rate;  2 red chips to 3 blue chips is a &quot;rate&quot; of 2/3 red chips per blue chip.  By broadening the idea of a &quot;unit&quot; to include a descriptor, like red chip instead of just chip, everything makes sense, both representation and various procedures, like cancelling units in science class.  Allowing such &quot;units&quot; and considering every ratio a rate seems like a helpful way to approach some of this hair-splitting discussion of the fraction representation of ratio.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always found the use of fraction notation for part-part ratios to be very confusing.  If I am going to represent 2 red chips to 3 blue chips as 2/3, I want to know that the actual number 2/3 has to do with it.  To my way of thinking, every ratio is a rate;  2 red chips to 3 blue chips is a &#8220;rate&#8221; of 2/3 red chips per blue chip.  By broadening the idea of a &#8220;unit&#8221; to include a descriptor, like red chip instead of just chip, everything makes sense, both representation and various procedures, like cancelling units in science class.  Allowing such &#8220;units&#8221; and considering every ratio a rate seems like a helpful way to approach some of this hair-splitting discussion of the fraction representation of ratio.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Ashli</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1633</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 00:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Official word from Patrick Callahan is that it&#039;s a pagination error.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Official word from Patrick Callahan is that it&#8217;s a pagination error.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by callahanpatrick</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1632</link>
		<dc:creator>callahanpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 16:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for the confusion, the file is complete at 35 pages, Word messed up the count, so there are no missing pages.  The modeling units are not described since they are intended to be opportunities for students to apply concepts from multiple units without introducing new standards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the confusion, the file is complete at 35 pages, Word messed up the count, so there are no missing pages.  The modeling units are not described since they are intended to be opportunities for students to apply concepts from multiple units without introducing new standards.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Brad Burkman</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-1631</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Burkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 16:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To second Patricia Posluszny&#039;s comment, the grade 4 standard does have addition of fractions with unlike denominators, but only decimal fractions, adding 3/10 + 4/100 = 34/100. (4.NF.5)  The example in the Grade 5 section of the Progressions for 3-5 Number and Operations - Fractions of what students were supposed to have learned in fourth grade, 1/3 + 1/6 = 2/6 + 1/6 = 3/6 = 1/2, is clearly not there in the CCSS-M.  

In fact, North Carolina&#039;s official commentary on the CCSS-M, the &quot;Unpacked&quot; series, uses this exact example, 1/3 + 1/6, to interpret the Grade 5 CCSS-M to say that the student should use 18 as the common denominator.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To second Patricia Posluszny&#8217;s comment, the grade 4 standard does have addition of fractions with unlike denominators, but only decimal fractions, adding 3/10 + 4/100 = 34/100. (4.NF.5)  The example in the Grade 5 section of the Progressions for 3-5 Number and Operations &#8211; Fractions of what students were supposed to have learned in fourth grade, 1/3 + 1/6 = 2/6 + 1/6 = 3/6 = 1/2, is clearly not there in the CCSS-M.  </p>
<p>In fact, North Carolina&#8217;s official commentary on the CCSS-M, the &#8220;Unpacked&#8221; series, uses this exact example, 1/3 + 1/6, to interpret the Grade 5 CCSS-M to say that the student should use 18 as the common denominator.  </p>
<p>I hope you can clarify.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1630</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 14:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David, it&#039;s seems a natural interpretation to apply this restriction to 3.G.2, since part of that standards says &quot;Express the area of each part as a unit fraction of the whole.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, it&#8217;s seems a natural interpretation to apply this restriction to 3.G.2, since part of that standards says &#8220;Express the area of each part as a unit fraction of the whole.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1629</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 14:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this it a matter of curriculum design exactly when to introduce parentheses. On the one hand, there is no explicit requirement to use parentheses until Grade 5. On the other hand, there&#039;s a footnote on 3.OA.8 that says &quot;This standard is limited to problems posed with whole numbers and having whole-number answers; students should know how to perform operations in the conventional order when there are no parentheses to specify a particular order (Order of Operations).&quot; This suggests that parentheses might well be used much earlier. My own preference would be we start to use them when it becomes difficult to say what you want to say without them, and this would probably be in Grade 3.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this it a matter of curriculum design exactly when to introduce parentheses. On the one hand, there is no explicit requirement to use parentheses until Grade 5. On the other hand, there&#8217;s a footnote on 3.OA.8 that says &#8220;This standard is limited to problems posed with whole numbers and having whole-number answers; students should know how to perform operations in the conventional order when there are no parentheses to specify a particular order (Order of Operations).&#8221; This suggests that parentheses might well be used much earlier. My own preference would be we start to use them when it becomes difficult to say what you want to say without them, and this would probably be in Grade 3.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 14:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think having an expectation that a Kindergartner says &quot;I know this is a triangle because it has 3 sides&quot; goes beyond what is called for in the Kindergarten standards. The relevant cluster is:

K.G. &lt;b&gt;Identify and describe shapes (squares, circles, triangles, rectangles, hexagons, cubes, cones, cylinders, and spheres).&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
Describe objects in the environment using names of shapes, and describe the relative positions of these objects using terms such as above, below, beside, in front of, behind, and next to.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Correctly name shapes regardless of their orientations or overall size.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Identify shapes as two-dimensional (lying in a plane, “flat”) or three-dimensional (“solid”).&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;

Compare this with 

1.G.1. Distinguish between defining attributes (e.g., triangles are closed and three-sided) versus non-defining attributes (e.g., color, orientation, overall size) ; build and draw shapes to possess defining attributes.

It seems to me that the progression is pretty clear here. Of course, as always, that which is not stated is not thereby forbidden; if the definition of a triangle in terms of its attributes comes up naturally in a Kindergarten class, and students seem to be learning from it, then that&#039;s good. But the standards do not require it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think having an expectation that a Kindergartner says &#8220;I know this is a triangle because it has 3 sides&#8221; goes beyond what is called for in the Kindergarten standards. The relevant cluster is:</p>
<p>K.G. <b>Identify and describe shapes (squares, circles, triangles, rectangles, hexagons, cubes, cones, cylinders, and spheres).</b></p>
<ol>
<li>
Describe objects in the environment using names of shapes, and describe the relative positions of these objects using terms such as above, below, beside, in front of, behind, and next to.</li>
<li>Correctly name shapes regardless of their orientations or overall size.</li>
<li>Identify shapes as two-dimensional (lying in a plane, “flat”) or three-dimensional (“solid”).</li>
</ol>
<p>Compare this with </p>
<p>1.G.1. Distinguish between defining attributes (e.g., triangles are closed and three-sided) versus non-defining attributes (e.g., color, orientation, overall size) ; build and draw shapes to possess defining attributes.</p>
<p>It seems to me that the progression is pretty clear here. Of course, as always, that which is not stated is not thereby forbidden; if the definition of a triangle in terms of its attributes comes up naturally in a Kindergarten class, and students seem to be learning from it, then that&#8217;s good. But the standards do not require it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 14:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The inclusive language also inspires connection between formulas.  Since the trapazoid&#039;s area is the average of the bases times the height, then we could say the same for a parallelogram.  If students can &quot;see&quot; so many of the formulas as simple variations of bh (or Bh for volume), there is less to memorize.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The inclusive language also inspires connection between formulas.  Since the trapazoid&#8217;s area is the average of the bases times the height, then we could say the same for a parallelogram.  If students can &#8220;see&#8221; so many of the formulas as simple variations of bh (or Bh for volume), there is less to memorize.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1626</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 14:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve asked Patrick Callahan if he can send me a more complete document.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1625</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 13:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your patience while I catch up on answers to these questions. This discussion as already laid out the issues pretty well. The fact is that there are two competing definitions out there, and no authority (including CCSS) says which one to use. That said, I think there are good mathematical reasons for choosing inclusive definitions (e.g., a rectangle is a trapezoid, a square is a rectangle). It&#039;s hard to imagine a situation where you want to state a property of a trapezoid that depends on one pair of sides not being parallel, so in practice what you say about trapezoids will be true of parallelograms as well. It&#039;s awkward to have to keep saying &quot;and this is also true of parallelograms&quot; every time you make a statement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your patience while I catch up on answers to these questions. This discussion as already laid out the issues pretty well. The fact is that there are two competing definitions out there, and no authority (including CCSS) says which one to use. That said, I think there are good mathematical reasons for choosing inclusive definitions (e.g., a rectangle is a trapezoid, a square is a rectangle). It&#8217;s hard to imagine a situation where you want to state a property of a trapezoid that depends on one pair of sides not being parallel, so in practice what you say about trapezoids will be true of parallelograms as well. It&#8217;s awkward to have to keep saying &#8220;and this is also true of parallelograms&#8221; every time you make a statement.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1624</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 13:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding proportional reasoning.  I understand major US textbook companies have published &quot;CCSS-alligned&quot; textbooks that do proportions the old-fashioned way instead of determining the constant of variation per CCSS.  Has anyone seen a textbook that shows the progressions correctly?  Does anyone know of a textbook source from one of the model countries (in any language)?  We don&#039;t have to be able to read the text to follow the examples.  Lots of folks are questioning whether the progressions are a new US invention or whether they are truly modeled after a high-performing country&#039;s curriculum, so PDers would gain credibility if they had access to an original source.  It would be worth the cost, whatever it is, to have an example set of textboooks from, say, Singapore; but again lots of American companies say their textbooks are modeled after Singapore and obviously we can&#039;t just take their word for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding proportional reasoning.  I understand major US textbook companies have published &#8220;CCSS-alligned&#8221; textbooks that do proportions the old-fashioned way instead of determining the constant of variation per CCSS.  Has anyone seen a textbook that shows the progressions correctly?  Does anyone know of a textbook source from one of the model countries (in any language)?  We don&#8217;t have to be able to read the text to follow the examples.  Lots of folks are questioning whether the progressions are a new US invention or whether they are truly modeled after a high-performing country&#8217;s curriculum, so PDers would gain credibility if they had access to an original source.  It would be worth the cost, whatever it is, to have an example set of textboooks from, say, Singapore; but again lots of American companies say their textbooks are modeled after Singapore and obviously we can&#8217;t just take their word for it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Danielle</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1622</link>
		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 21:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,
The text file of all of the courses is missing pages 36-38. Can you repost with the complete file?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
The text file of all of the courses is missing pages 36-38. Can you repost with the complete file?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Erin Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1621</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 16:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m looking forward to the workshop in New Orleans.  We really need the content specific math information and plans to move professional development forward.  I appreciate the work that IM&amp;E is doing to address these needs. Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to the workshop in New Orleans.  We really need the content specific math information and plans to move professional development forward.  I appreciate the work that IM&amp;E is doing to address these needs. Thank you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Davd Smith</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1614</link>
		<dc:creator>Davd Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 18:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,
I had a question today from one of our districts about 3.G.2. In the NF domain we restrict denominators to 2, 3, 4, 6, and 8. Does the same restriction apply to partitioning shapes in 3.G.2 or should students be allowed to make as many partitions as they like?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
I had a question today from one of our districts about 3.G.2. In the NF domain we restrict denominators to 2, 3, 4, 6, and 8. Does the same restriction apply to partitioning shapes in 3.G.2 or should students be allowed to make as many partitions as they like?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Complete draft progression for CC and OA by Nikki</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/05/29/complete-draft-progression-for-cc-and-oa/#comment-1612</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 13:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your response. To further clarify the use of parenthesis, brackets, or braces would this expression be inappropriate for 5th grade 2{5[12+5(500 - 100 )+ 399]}  ?  We are thinking this would be inappropriate due to the nested symbols. Is there a situation where parenthesis, brackets, or braces would be used where the symbols are not nested? Can brackets or braces be used without parenthesis? Thanks for your help.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your response. To further clarify the use of parenthesis, brackets, or braces would this expression be inappropriate for 5th grade 2{5[12+5(500 - 100 )+ 399]}  ?  We are thinking this would be inappropriate due to the nested symbols. Is there a situation where parenthesis, brackets, or braces would be used where the symbols are not nested? Can brackets or braces be used without parenthesis? Thanks for your help.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Illustrative Mathematics Project by teach54ever</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/01/16/the-illustrative-mathematics-project/#comment-1611</link>
		<dc:creator>teach54ever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 04:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a 5th grade math teacher and so very glad to find a blog about common core.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Mark</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1609</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 04:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In grade 3 students are to understand the properties of multiplication and the relationship between multiplication and division, 3.OA.5 and 3.OA.6.  Regarding Distributive property I&#039;ve seen variations in the interpretations of this in multiple organization and/or state documents - ranging from no appearance of parentheses to beyond what I&#039;m seeing in the standards.   3.OA.7 also includes properties as well.  Could you please elaborate on the use of parentheses at this level and clarify these standards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In grade 3 students are to understand the properties of multiplication and the relationship between multiplication and division, 3.OA.5 and 3.OA.6.  Regarding Distributive property I&#8217;ve seen variations in the interpretations of this in multiple organization and/or state documents &#8211; ranging from no appearance of parentheses to beyond what I&#8217;m seeing in the standards.   3.OA.7 also includes properties as well.  Could you please elaborate on the use of parentheses at this level and clarify these standards.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Howard Levine</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1607</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 22:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The High School Math Scope and Sequence....the bottom of the last page says 35 of 38.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The High School Math Scope and Sequence&#8230;.the bottom of the last page says 35 of 38.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Number and Operations in Base Ten by Brad Burkman</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/06/draft-of-progression-on-number-and-operations-in-base-ten/#comment-1605</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Burkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 20:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am also interested in Nancy&#039;s inquiry.  I&#039;d like to know why, when students find the greatest common divisor of pairs of numbers up to 100, they only find the least common multiple of pairs of numbers up to 12.  Two concerns there.  First, since lcm(a,b) = ab/gcd(a,b), I don&#039;t see why students shouldn&#039;t find gcd and lcm of pairs of numbers up to [the same maximum].  Second, for finding common factors there aren&#039;t many interesting examples of pairs of integers up to 12.  There are only seven pairs that have a common proper factor, (4,6), (4,10), (6,8), (6,10), (8,10), (8,12), and (10,12), and only one, (8,12), has a common proper composite factor.  There don&#039;t seem to be enough examples for students to practice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also interested in Nancy&#8217;s inquiry.  I&#8217;d like to know why, when students find the greatest common divisor of pairs of numbers up to 100, they only find the least common multiple of pairs of numbers up to 12.  Two concerns there.  First, since lcm(a,b) = ab/gcd(a,b), I don&#8217;t see why students shouldn&#8217;t find gcd and lcm of pairs of numbers up to [the same maximum].  Second, for finding common factors there aren&#8217;t many interesting examples of pairs of integers up to 12.  There are only seven pairs that have a common proper factor, (4,6), (4,10), (6,8), (6,10), (8,10), (8,12), and (10,12), and only one, (8,12), has a common proper composite factor.  There don&#8217;t seem to be enough examples for students to practice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Joe Ratasky</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1603</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ratasky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 18:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a question involving Geometry at the Kindergarten and first grade levels.
My county is currently developing a Scope &amp; Sequence for both grades.  During this process, we were tasked with unwrapping the standards and developing unit plans of study.  In comparing some of the geometry standards at K and 1, some questions were brought up, mainly involving K.G.1, K.G.2, K.G.4 and 1.G.1.  The first grade team assumed that first graders would begin using defining attributes to determine proper names and classification of shapes, and that kindergarteners would have been recognizing shapes mainly by sight.  The kindergarten team felt that kindergarteners would begin identifying, classifying and naming shapes using attributes, mainly number of sides and vertices.  The team also felt that many misconceptions would be developed if students were only expected to use visual recognition to identify shapes.  We sort of came to an agreement that in K, students might take a single shape and be able to define it based on sides or vertices.  &quot;I know this is a triangle because it has 3 sides&quot;  Whereas in 1st, students might take the attribute of 3 sides and identify all triangles from a set of shapes.  
Without the geometry progression documents, is there a better explanation of the difference between these two grade level geometry standards and expectations?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a question involving Geometry at the Kindergarten and first grade levels.<br />
My county is currently developing a Scope &amp; Sequence for both grades.  During this process, we were tasked with unwrapping the standards and developing unit plans of study.  In comparing some of the geometry standards at K and 1, some questions were brought up, mainly involving K.G.1, K.G.2, K.G.4 and 1.G.1.  The first grade team assumed that first graders would begin using defining attributes to determine proper names and classification of shapes, and that kindergarteners would have been recognizing shapes mainly by sight.  The kindergarten team felt that kindergarteners would begin identifying, classifying and naming shapes using attributes, mainly number of sides and vertices.  The team also felt that many misconceptions would be developed if students were only expected to use visual recognition to identify shapes.  We sort of came to an agreement that in K, students might take a single shape and be able to define it based on sides or vertices.  &#8220;I know this is a triangle because it has 3 sides&#8221;  Whereas in 1st, students might take the attribute of 3 sides and identify all triangles from a set of shapes.<br />
Without the geometry progression documents, is there a better explanation of the difference between these two grade level geometry standards and expectations?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Number and Operations in Base Ten by Brad Burkman</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/06/draft-of-progression-on-number-and-operations-in-base-ten/#comment-1601</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Burkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 18:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Typo at the bottom of p. 19.  

7x + 33  should be  7x + 3.  

I appreciate your having included this side-by-side example.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo at the bottom of p. 19.  </p>
<p>7x + 33  should be  7x + 3.  </p>
<p>I appreciate your having included this side-by-side example.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Brad Burkman</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-1600</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Burkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 18:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patricia and Bill, 

A follow-up to Patricia&#039;s question about &quot;In Grade 4, students calculate sums of fractions with different denominators where one denominator is a divisor of the other,...&quot;

Adding fractions with different denominators does appear in CCSS-M Grade 4, but only as decimal fractions, with the example 3/10 + 4/100 = 34/100.  My reading is the same as Patricia&#039;s, that 1/3 + 1/6 is not there in the fourth grade.  

North Carolina&#039;s official commentary on the CCSS-M, the &quot;Unpacked&quot; series, uses the exact example here, 1/3 + 1/6, to interpret the fifth grade CCSS-M to instruct us to use 18 as the common denominator.

Please clarify.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patricia and Bill, </p>
<p>A follow-up to Patricia&#8217;s question about &#8220;In Grade 4, students calculate sums of fractions with different denominators where one denominator is a divisor of the other,&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Adding fractions with different denominators does appear in CCSS-M Grade 4, but only as decimal fractions, with the example 3/10 + 4/100 = 34/100.  My reading is the same as Patricia&#8217;s, that 1/3 + 1/6 is not there in the fourth grade.  </p>
<p>North Carolina&#8217;s official commentary on the CCSS-M, the &#8220;Unpacked&#8221; series, uses the exact example here, 1/3 + 1/6, to interpret the fifth grade CCSS-M to instruct us to use 18 as the common denominator.</p>
<p>Please clarify.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Joe Ratasky</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1599</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ratasky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 16:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m making this reply after I have already posted my reply below:
One thing that does seem contradictory to the statement of multiplying withing products of 100 is 3.NBT.3, multiply one-digit numbers by multiples of 10 in the range 10-90.  Even one example listed in the progression document (K-5 Number and Operations in Base Ten) shows 3 groups of 50, which would of course result in a product greater than 100.
My interpretation then would be that for students to explore equal groups of two-digit numbers is expected in third grade.  Which makes sense when students are learning conceptually of what the meaning of multiplication is, as well as using place value throughout operations.  (Modeling 3 groups of 25 would not be that different conceptually than modeling 6 groups of 4.)  But for fluency, third graders would be expected to learn related multiplication and division facts of one-digit by one-digit factors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m making this reply after I have already posted my reply below:<br />
One thing that does seem contradictory to the statement of multiplying withing products of 100 is 3.NBT.3, multiply one-digit numbers by multiples of 10 in the range 10-90.  Even one example listed in the progression document (K-5 Number and Operations in Base Ten) shows 3 groups of 50, which would of course result in a product greater than 100.<br />
My interpretation then would be that for students to explore equal groups of two-digit numbers is expected in third grade.  Which makes sense when students are learning conceptually of what the meaning of multiplication is, as well as using place value throughout operations.  (Modeling 3 groups of 25 would not be that different conceptually than modeling 6 groups of 4.)  But for fluency, third graders would be expected to learn related multiplication and division facts of one-digit by one-digit factors.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Ken Anderson</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-1595</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 21:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m interested in knowing if there is a definitive source to help me get up to speed on the promise and limitations of geometric transformations at the high school level in regards to their heavy emphasis in the CC (proofs that are possible with either just them or a combination of them and traditional Euclidian proofs, whether or not they will subtlely crowd out Euclid eventually, etc.). I really want to be as conversant with the possibilities of this approach as it is possible to be. Any suggestions?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m interested in knowing if there is a definitive source to help me get up to speed on the promise and limitations of geometric transformations at the high school level in regards to their heavy emphasis in the CC (proofs that are possible with either just them or a combination of them and traditional Euclidian proofs, whether or not they will subtlely crowd out Euclid eventually, etc.). I really want to be as conversant with the possibilities of this approach as it is possible to be. Any suggestions?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Ashli</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1594</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 20:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Howard,
I think your comment was disconnected from the original source. Can you clarify which document you are referring to?
Thanks!
Ashli]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Howard,<br />
I think your comment was disconnected from the original source. Can you clarify which document you are referring to?<br />
Thanks!<br />
Ashli</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Howard Levine</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1592</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 19:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The document seems to end on page 35 of 38.  Is the pagination in error or are pages missing from the end?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The document seems to end on page 35 of 38.  Is the pagination in error or are pages missing from the end?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft high school Statistics and Probability progression by Howard Levine</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/21/draft-high-school-statistics-and-probability-progression/#comment-1591</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 19:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems that we want students to learn about margin of error by simulating a large number of samples based on certain assumed characteristics (parameters) of a population.  Sample means or proportions will be graphed in dot plots or histograms.  A smooth curve will be roughly fitted to the plot, and the inflection points will be used to estimate the standard deviation of the sample statistic.  The sampling error will be considered to be equal to 2 standard deviations of the sample statistic.  Is this how you see it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that we want students to learn about margin of error by simulating a large number of samples based on certain assumed characteristics (parameters) of a population.  Sample means or proportions will be graphed in dot plots or histograms.  A smooth curve will be roughly fitted to the plot, and the inflection points will be used to estimate the standard deviation of the sample statistic.  The sampling error will be considered to be equal to 2 standard deviations of the sample statistic.  Is this how you see it?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Howard Levine</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1590</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 18:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a question about the statistics component in Algebra 2.  How are students going to be expected to determine margins of error by simulation?  Also, exactly why is this being done in this course, when more direct, classical methods for confidence intervals and hypothesis tests are discussed in AP Staistics?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question about the statistics component in Algebra 2.  How are students going to be expected to determine margins of error by simulation?  Also, exactly why is this being done in this course, when more direct, classical methods for confidence intervals and hypothesis tests are discussed in AP Staistics?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Joe Ratasky</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1589</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ratasky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 16:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3.OA.7
Multiply and divide within 100.
7. Fluently multiply and divide within 100, using strategies such as the
relationship between multiplication and division (e.g., knowing that 8 ×
5 = 40, one knows 40 ÷ 5 = 8) or properties of operations. By the end
of Grade 3, know from memory all products of two one-digit numbers.

So Bill, in looking at the glossary, the standard and your post, it sounds as if this is an issue where the standard is not limiting, but stating the minimum we should expose our students to and hold them accountable for.  We could go beyond.  For instance, they should leave 3rd grade with a working knowledge of all products from two one-digit numbers, but they may also be exposed to working with products of a one-digit and two-digit number within 100.  The glossary doesn&#039;t seem to define for us what IS included, nor does it tell us what is NOT included.  This is another issue where the standard is very open to interpretation.  Also in looking at 4th grade standard 4.NBT.5, that is a standard that does specifically mention multiplication with a one-digit by a multi-digit number, which the 3rd grade standard does not do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3.OA.7<br />
Multiply and divide within 100.<br />
7. Fluently multiply and divide within 100, using strategies such as the<br />
relationship between multiplication and division (e.g., knowing that 8 ×<br />
5 = 40, one knows 40 ÷ 5 = 8) or properties of operations. By the end<br />
of Grade 3, know from memory all products of two one-digit numbers.</p>
<p>So Bill, in looking at the glossary, the standard and your post, it sounds as if this is an issue where the standard is not limiting, but stating the minimum we should expose our students to and hold them accountable for.  We could go beyond.  For instance, they should leave 3rd grade with a working knowledge of all products from two one-digit numbers, but they may also be exposed to working with products of a one-digit and two-digit number within 100.  The glossary doesn&#8217;t seem to define for us what IS included, nor does it tell us what is NOT included.  This is another issue where the standard is very open to interpretation.  Also in looking at 4th grade standard 4.NBT.5, that is a standard that does specifically mention multiplication with a one-digit by a multi-digit number, which the 3rd grade standard does not do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1588</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 13:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Multiplication of 1-digit by 2-digit numbers is included as long as the product is less than 100. From the glossary (on page 85 of the standards):

&lt;b&gt;Multiplication and division within 100.&lt;/b&gt; Multiplication or division of two whole numbers with whole number answers, and with product or dividend in the range 0-100. Example: 72 ÷ 8 = 9.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Multiplication of 1-digit by 2-digit numbers is included as long as the product is less than 100. From the glossary (on page 85 of the standards):</p>
<p><b>Multiplication and division within 100.</b> Multiplication or division of two whole numbers with whole number answers, and with product or dividend in the range 0-100. Example: 72 ÷ 8 = 9.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1587</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 13:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Liz, thanks for pointing this out, I&#039;ll let the Illustrative Mathematics team know!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz, thanks for pointing this out, I&#8217;ll let the Illustrative Mathematics team know!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1586</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 13:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lane, I don&#039;t know why either, but IM&amp;E is planning to organize more workshops like the upcoming one in New Orleans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lane, I don&#8217;t know why either, but IM&amp;E is planning to organize more workshops like the upcoming one in New Orleans.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1585</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 13:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure I understand the question. Is this about how the endpoints of the line are indicated? That&#039;s a matter of the convention chosen within a particular curriculum, I think (also a matter of context, as you say).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I understand the question. Is this about how the endpoints of the line are indicated? That&#8217;s a matter of the convention chosen within a particular curriculum, I think (also a matter of context, as you say).</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1584</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 13:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are correct that ruler measure is not required in Grade 1. In grade 1 students start to work with the idea of using a standard length unit to measure, as in 1.MD.2:

Express the length of an object as a whole number of length units, by laying multiple copies of a shorter object (the length unit) end to end; understand that the length measurement of an object is the number of same-size length units that span it with no gaps or overlaps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct that ruler measure is not required in Grade 1. In grade 1 students start to work with the idea of using a standard length unit to measure, as in 1.MD.2:</p>
<p>Express the length of an object as a whole number of length units, by laying multiple copies of a shorter object (the length unit) end to end; understand that the length measurement of an object is the number of same-size length units that span it with no gaps or overlaps.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Leandra</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1580</link>
		<dc:creator>Leandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 02:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe, so in your opinion there is no double digit multiplication in 3rd grade except by multiples o ten?  Or am I maybe missing it in another standard?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, so in your opinion there is no double digit multiplication in 3rd grade except by multiples o ten?  Or am I maybe missing it in another standard?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Cathy Kessel</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1577</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Kessel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 23:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pam, sorry to reply to myself but I don&#039;t see a spot to reply to you.

I don&#039;t like to play statistics educator when my background and experience is in math, so I&#039;ll refer you to the following two things from the American Statistical Association. 

Description of ASA education resources: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amstat.org/education/pdfs/EducationResources.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.amstat.org/education/pdfs/EducationResources.pdf&lt;/a&gt;.

The Meeting Within a Meeting (MWM) Statistics Workshop for Mathematics and Science Teachers will help middle and high school teachers teach the increased statistics content in the Common Core State Standards. The MWM statistics workshop will be held in conjunction with the Joint Statistical Meetings on Tuesday, July 31 and Wednesday, August 1 at the Hilton San Diego Bayfront with separate middle and high school strands. The registration fee is $50, which includes materials and refreshments.  Optional graduate credit and limited lodging reimbursement is also available.  More information and registration for the MWM workshop is available at  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amstat.org/education/mwm/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.amstat.org/education/mwm/&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pam, sorry to reply to myself but I don&#8217;t see a spot to reply to you.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like to play statistics educator when my background and experience is in math, so I&#8217;ll refer you to the following two things from the American Statistical Association. </p>
<p>Description of ASA education resources: <a href="http://www.amstat.org/education/pdfs/EducationResources.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.amstat.org/education/pdfs/EducationResources.pdf</a>.</p>
<p>The Meeting Within a Meeting (MWM) Statistics Workshop for Mathematics and Science Teachers will help middle and high school teachers teach the increased statistics content in the Common Core State Standards. The MWM statistics workshop will be held in conjunction with the Joint Statistical Meetings on Tuesday, July 31 and Wednesday, August 1 at the Hilton San Diego Bayfront with separate middle and high school strands. The registration fee is $50, which includes materials and refreshments.  Optional graduate credit and limited lodging reimbursement is also available.  More information and registration for the MWM workshop is available at  <a href="http://www.amstat.org/education/mwm/" rel="nofollow">http://www.amstat.org/education/mwm/</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by CK</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1576</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 23:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pam, I don&#039;t like to play statistics educator when my background and experience is in math, so I&#039;ll refer you to the following two things from the American Statistical Association. 

Description of ASA education resources: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amstat.org/education/pdfs/EducationResources.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.amstat.org/education/pdfs/EducationResources.pdf&lt;/a&gt;.

The Meeting Within a Meeting (MWM) Statistics Workshop for Mathematics and Science Teachers will help middle and high school teachers teach the increased statistics content in the Common Core State Standards. The MWM statistics workshop will be held in conjunction with the Joint Statistical Meetings on Tuesday, July 31 and Wednesday, August 1 at the Hilton San Diego Bayfront with separate middle and high school strands. The registration fee is $50, which includes materials and refreshments.  Optional graduate credit and limited lodging reimbursement is also available.  More information and registration for the MWM workshop is available at  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amstat.org/education/mwm/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.amstat.org/education/mwm/&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pam, I don&#8217;t like to play statistics educator when my background and experience is in math, so I&#8217;ll refer you to the following two things from the American Statistical Association. </p>
<p>Description of ASA education resources: <a href="http://www.amstat.org/education/pdfs/EducationResources.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.amstat.org/education/pdfs/EducationResources.pdf</a>.</p>
<p>The Meeting Within a Meeting (MWM) Statistics Workshop for Mathematics and Science Teachers will help middle and high school teachers teach the increased statistics content in the Common Core State Standards. The MWM statistics workshop will be held in conjunction with the Joint Statistical Meetings on Tuesday, July 31 and Wednesday, August 1 at the Hilton San Diego Bayfront with separate middle and high school strands. The registration fee is $50, which includes materials and refreshments.  Optional graduate credit and limited lodging reimbursement is also available.  More information and registration for the MWM workshop is available at  <a href="http://www.amstat.org/education/mwm/" rel="nofollow">http://www.amstat.org/education/mwm/</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Joe Ratasky</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1575</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ratasky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 22:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The trapezoid issue has come up in our county before.  The way I deal with the possibility of having two distinct definitions is by making the students and teachers aware that some people agree on &quot;only one pair&quot; whereas some people agree on &quot;at least one pair&quot; of parallel sides.  I leave it open to discussion.  Often times people say they like math because there is always a &quot;correct answer.&quot;  But this is not always true.  This is one case where discussion and understanding of other opinions is essential.
Our state (Florida) defined trapezoids in our testing glossary.  So though we had great discussions, we let the students know that ultimately on our state test, we will define trapezoids as having only one pair of parallel lines.  I imagine more clarity will come with test item specification from either PARCC or SBAC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trapezoid issue has come up in our county before.  The way I deal with the possibility of having two distinct definitions is by making the students and teachers aware that some people agree on &#8220;only one pair&#8221; whereas some people agree on &#8220;at least one pair&#8221; of parallel sides.  I leave it open to discussion.  Often times people say they like math because there is always a &#8220;correct answer.&#8221;  But this is not always true.  This is one case where discussion and understanding of other opinions is essential.<br />
Our state (Florida) defined trapezoids in our testing glossary.  So though we had great discussions, we let the students know that ultimately on our state test, we will define trapezoids as having only one pair of parallel lines.  I imagine more clarity will come with test item specification from either PARCC or SBAC.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Joe Ratasky</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1574</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ratasky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 22:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leandra,
I don&#039;t think that is the intention of the standard.  I believe they just used the &quot;within 100&quot; example to cover all of the possible products of one digit factors.  In fact, looking in 3.OA.7 it does say products of two one digit numbers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leandra,<br />
I don&#8217;t think that is the intention of the standard.  I believe they just used the &#8220;within 100&#8243; example to cover all of the possible products of one digit factors.  In fact, looking in 3.OA.7 it does say products of two one digit numbers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1571</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 16:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A-REI.3 itself is silent on the arrangement of topics into courses, so it can&#039;t by itself be interpreted as saying which types of equations occur in Algebra I/Math I and which occur later. Appendix A is a sample arrangement of the standards into courses, but it does not carry the force of the standards themselves; that is to say, a curriculum can follow the standards without following Appendix A. I&#039;m not sure exactly what you mean by &quot;using a linear equation to solve an exponential equation&quot;. The example you quote from Appendix A is about understanding the laws of exponents, not about linear equations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A-REI.3 itself is silent on the arrangement of topics into courses, so it can&#8217;t by itself be interpreted as saying which types of equations occur in Algebra I/Math I and which occur later. Appendix A is a sample arrangement of the standards into courses, but it does not carry the force of the standards themselves; that is to say, a curriculum can follow the standards without following Appendix A. I&#8217;m not sure exactly what you mean by &#8220;using a linear equation to solve an exponential equation&#8221;. The example you quote from Appendix A is about understanding the laws of exponents, not about linear equations.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Patricia Posluszny</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-1570</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia Posluszny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 16:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Math Coach who works primarily with middle school teachers, but occasionally with elementary school teachers, I thank you for these progressions documents!  They are extemely helpful in guiding our thinking as we begin to plan our Common Core Math units.  I do have a couple of questions.  
- A question about the progressions in general:
I&#039;m wondering if there is a timeframe for when the remainder of the progressons drafts and ultimately, the final version of the progressions documents, will be released?  Do you anticipate that significant changes will be made to the draft documents?

- A question and a comment specific to the fractions document:
a) I recently had the opportunity to read through the fractions progressions with a group of 3rd - 5th grade teachers.  We all were questioning the opening statement on p. 10 (grade 5):  &quot;In grade 4, students calculate sums of fractions with different denominators where one denominator ...&quot;  I see that this was previously questioned back in Aug. 2011, however I am concerned with your response.  As much as I appreciate the progressions, I believe the standards will be the primary resource used by educators; the grade 4 standard very clearly states that adding and subtracting of fractions will be done using like denominators.  I am wondering if you might address this with a bit more detail?  I have concerns that if the progressions documents do not clearly align with the standards, as they are written, the validity and value of the progressions will likely come into question.  I am asking that you please take this into consideration as revisions are made.
b) I would like to share some of the responses from these teachers and also some of my MS colleagues who read the ratio/proportionality and the statistics progressions.  Almost every teacher found value in these documents.  They feel the progressions very clearly outline how to build understanding; the teachers stated that although some of the content may be similar to what they already teach, HOW they teach it will change.  There was much concern voiced over how challenging it was to read through these documents.  The MS teachers were able to work their way through and have rich converstations; they are content sprecialists.  The elementary teachers, in some cases, needed some guidance working their way through the mathematics - which is truly written for someone who is comfortable with algebraic representation.  I am a content specialist and I actually found the fractions document harder to read than the MS documents.  Again, my concern is that if these are meant to be helpful to teachers as they plan their Common Core units, the elementary documents need to be written in a language that does not intimidate teachers who, themselves, do not have a comfort level with mathematics.

Thank you.

Patricia Posluszny]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Math Coach who works primarily with middle school teachers, but occasionally with elementary school teachers, I thank you for these progressions documents!  They are extemely helpful in guiding our thinking as we begin to plan our Common Core Math units.  I do have a couple of questions.<br />
- A question about the progressions in general:<br />
I&#8217;m wondering if there is a timeframe for when the remainder of the progressons drafts and ultimately, the final version of the progressions documents, will be released?  Do you anticipate that significant changes will be made to the draft documents?</p>
<p>- A question and a comment specific to the fractions document:<br />
a) I recently had the opportunity to read through the fractions progressions with a group of 3rd &#8211; 5th grade teachers.  We all were questioning the opening statement on p. 10 (grade 5):  &#8220;In grade 4, students calculate sums of fractions with different denominators where one denominator &#8230;&#8221;  I see that this was previously questioned back in Aug. 2011, however I am concerned with your response.  As much as I appreciate the progressions, I believe the standards will be the primary resource used by educators; the grade 4 standard very clearly states that adding and subtracting of fractions will be done using like denominators.  I am wondering if you might address this with a bit more detail?  I have concerns that if the progressions documents do not clearly align with the standards, as they are written, the validity and value of the progressions will likely come into question.  I am asking that you please take this into consideration as revisions are made.<br />
b) I would like to share some of the responses from these teachers and also some of my MS colleagues who read the ratio/proportionality and the statistics progressions.  Almost every teacher found value in these documents.  They feel the progressions very clearly outline how to build understanding; the teachers stated that although some of the content may be similar to what they already teach, HOW they teach it will change.  There was much concern voiced over how challenging it was to read through these documents.  The MS teachers were able to work their way through and have rich converstations; they are content sprecialists.  The elementary teachers, in some cases, needed some guidance working their way through the mathematics &#8211; which is truly written for someone who is comfortable with algebraic representation.  I am a content specialist and I actually found the fractions document harder to read than the MS documents.  Again, my concern is that if these are meant to be helpful to teachers as they plan their Common Core units, the elementary documents need to be written in a language that does not intimidate teachers who, themselves, do not have a comfort level with mathematics.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>Patricia Posluszny</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1564</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 23:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree it sticks out where it is. I see Appendix A as a first attempt at arranging the high school standards into courses, and there are no doubt many opportunities for people to come up with better ideas. This standard is really a capstone for work on the number system from earlier grades.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree it sticks out where it is. I see Appendix A as a first attempt at arranging the high school standards into courses, and there are no doubt many opportunities for people to come up with better ideas. This standard is really a capstone for work on the number system from earlier grades.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-1563</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 23:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for pointing out the typo. I&#039;m happy to correct any others that you spotted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing out the typo. I&#8217;m happy to correct any others that you spotted.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Complete draft progression for CC and OA by Ivan</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/05/29/complete-draft-progression-for-cc-and-oa/#comment-1562</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 22:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Bill:

First of all, thank you, for all this work.  I am a big fan of CCSSM and one of my personal favorite is this Domain, CC/OA.  In looking at its progression I was hoping you could clarify a couple of things for me.  
K.CC.6 asks that students make the assessment of qualifying the group as greater than, less than or equal to, yet, in many cases, it may be assessed the other way around, where the student selects the group that is greater or lesser.  Or one could ask a student to look a set of 4 or 5 groups and select the 2 that are equal.  Are these things still within the boundaries or expectations of the standard?
I guess my general question is how far are we to interpret a standard?  Should it be taken strictly at face value or can we make assumption that if written one way, the opposite or the inverse should also be true?  Some examples:  if students are to represent and equation with objects should they be able to write an equation from a representation; if students are asked to decompose should they be able to compose; if they are asked to sequence numbers in a certain order they should be able to describe in what order numbers are sequenced, etc.  And what about combining standards into question that may be more complex?  For example by combining 1.OA.7 &amp; 1.OA.8 you could ask students to find the unknown to make 4 + 8 = ? + 6 true.
My other question is regarding the definition of fluency as &quot;fast and accurate&quot;.  How does process vs. speed play a part of it and how would you distinguish ultra efficient mental strategies from just memorization?
Lastly, do you know how soon may we expect the geometric measurement progression and the geometry progression to come out?

Thanks again,
Ivan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill:</p>
<p>First of all, thank you, for all this work.  I am a big fan of CCSSM and one of my personal favorite is this Domain, CC/OA.  In looking at its progression I was hoping you could clarify a couple of things for me.<br />
K.CC.6 asks that students make the assessment of qualifying the group as greater than, less than or equal to, yet, in many cases, it may be assessed the other way around, where the student selects the group that is greater or lesser.  Or one could ask a student to look a set of 4 or 5 groups and select the 2 that are equal.  Are these things still within the boundaries or expectations of the standard?<br />
I guess my general question is how far are we to interpret a standard?  Should it be taken strictly at face value or can we make assumption that if written one way, the opposite or the inverse should also be true?  Some examples:  if students are to represent and equation with objects should they be able to write an equation from a representation; if students are asked to decompose should they be able to compose; if they are asked to sequence numbers in a certain order they should be able to describe in what order numbers are sequenced, etc.  And what about combining standards into question that may be more complex?  For example by combining 1.OA.7 &amp; 1.OA.8 you could ask students to find the unknown to make 4 + 8 = ? + 6 true.<br />
My other question is regarding the definition of fluency as &#8220;fast and accurate&#8221;.  How does process vs. speed play a part of it and how would you distinguish ultra efficient mental strategies from just memorization?<br />
Lastly, do you know how soon may we expect the geometric measurement progression and the geometry progression to come out?</p>
<p>Thanks again,<br />
Ivan</p>
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		<dc:creator>Ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 19:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill:

I have been curious about the decision to stick with only measurement data when using line plots.  There are many classic activities used to introduce line plots like “how many pockets” or “how many siblings” does each kid have, but these seem to be counts more than measures since you can’t have 3 ½ siblings.  Where would these activities fall under?  Do you recommend continuing to do some line plots using counts or should it always be measurement data?

Thank you,

Ivan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill:</p>
<p>I have been curious about the decision to stick with only measurement data when using line plots.  There are many classic activities used to introduce line plots like “how many pockets” or “how many siblings” does each kid have, but these seem to be counts more than measures since you can’t have 3 ½ siblings.  Where would these activities fall under?  Do you recommend continuing to do some line plots using counts or should it always be measurement data?</p>
<p>Thank you,</p>
<p>Ivan</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by John Overton</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Overton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 16:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seth:

I can appreciate your point.  Anecdotally, I have noticed that my students who understand why we are learning a particular topic and how it fits into a larger picture, seem to do better at general problem solving and using the said topic knowledge to solve a variety of problems.  However, inorder to communicate to students the larger picture and the &quot;why are we learning this stuff&quot; questions, teachers must  have clear, understandable, standards.  So far, I&#039;m not finding this with these &quot;new&quot; Common Core Standards.  

&quot;Unpacking,&quot; while maybe a little vague in terms of the process, makes sense to me.  But &quot;designing an itinerary through closely observed details, with the design of the itinerary supported by research about what itineraries work best for kids&quot; as put by Mr McCallum, is confusing to me.  

I hope that whatever new standards emerge that they are clear, concise, and complete.  I hope that the result will not be that we end up teaching less.

John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth:</p>
<p>I can appreciate your point.  Anecdotally, I have noticed that my students who understand why we are learning a particular topic and how it fits into a larger picture, seem to do better at general problem solving and using the said topic knowledge to solve a variety of problems.  However, inorder to communicate to students the larger picture and the &#8220;why are we learning this stuff&#8221; questions, teachers must  have clear, understandable, standards.  So far, I&#8217;m not finding this with these &#8220;new&#8221; Common Core Standards.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Unpacking,&#8221; while maybe a little vague in terms of the process, makes sense to me.  But &#8220;designing an itinerary through closely observed details, with the design of the itinerary supported by research about what itineraries work best for kids&#8221; as put by Mr McCallum, is confusing to me.  </p>
<p>I hope that whatever new standards emerge that they are clear, concise, and complete.  I hope that the result will not be that we end up teaching less.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-1557</link>
		<dc:creator>John Overton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 13:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill:

I got this article sent to me by our department chair via our district math person.  I can&#039;t believe how poorly written it is.  It is as if you didn&#039;t even proof your paper.  The run-on sentences never ended.  There were even missing words.  &quot;Standards are a policy document, after all, not a work art.&quot;  While your message might be apt, it is lost in the lack of communication ability.  

When I hear that the new standards replace &quot;a mile wide and an inch deep&quot; with less wide but more depth, I only hear less.  The standards we currently use were an attempt to make our classes more rigorous.  When they emerged some 20 years ago, I remember hearing the complaints from primary grade teachers about how much core subjects they would have to cover.  They seemed upset because they wouldn&#039;t be doing those fun and creative projects they had spent a lot of time developing and loved to do.  

It feels like the pendulum is now swinging back in the other direction, less rigor, more art.


-- John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill:</p>
<p>I got this article sent to me by our department chair via our district math person.  I can&#8217;t believe how poorly written it is.  It is as if you didn&#8217;t even proof your paper.  The run-on sentences never ended.  There were even missing words.  &#8220;Standards are a policy document, after all, not a work art.&#8221;  While your message might be apt, it is lost in the lack of communication ability.  </p>
<p>When I hear that the new standards replace &#8220;a mile wide and an inch deep&#8221; with less wide but more depth, I only hear less.  The standards we currently use were an attempt to make our classes more rigorous.  When they emerged some 20 years ago, I remember hearing the complaints from primary grade teachers about how much core subjects they would have to cover.  They seemed upset because they wouldn&#8217;t be doing those fun and creative projects they had spent a lot of time developing and loved to do.  </p>
<p>It feels like the pendulum is now swinging back in the other direction, less rigor, more art.</p>
<p>&#8211; John</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by June</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1556</link>
		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 13:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a sample grade one &quot;core aligned&quot; module which asks students to use an inch and cm ruler. Doesn&#039;t the core introduce ruler measures in grade 2?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a sample grade one &#8220;core aligned&#8221; module which asks students to use an inch and cm ruler. Doesn&#8217;t the core introduce ruler measures in grade 2?</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1555</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 12:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, I have.  It lays a good foundation for the first part of that standard, but says nothing about measuring the difference between means or medians as a multiple of mean absolute deviation.  It&#039;s the second part of the standard that is giving me trouble.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I have.  It lays a good foundation for the first part of that standard, but says nothing about measuring the difference between means or medians as a multiple of mean absolute deviation.  It&#8217;s the second part of the standard that is giving me trouble.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Jo Walker</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1553</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 03:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Should line plots be plotted on a line or a line segment. The example in the progressions is a line segment, but all of the examples I have seen in textbooks are plotted on a line. Which is correct? Or does it depend on the context of the data?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should line plots be plotted on a line or a line segment. The example in the progressions is a line segment, but all of the examples I have seen in textbooks are plotted on a line. Which is correct? Or does it depend on the context of the data?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Cathy Kessel</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1551</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Kessel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 01:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pam, have you already looked at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://commoncoretools.me/2011/12/26/progression-for-statistics-and-probability-grades-6-8/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;6–8 Statistics and Probability Progression&lt;/a&gt;? Please let me know if that helps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pam, have you already looked at the <a href="http://commoncoretools.me/2011/12/26/progression-for-statistics-and-probability-grades-6-8/" rel="nofollow">6–8 Statistics and Probability Progression</a>? Please let me know if that helps.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Pam</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1544</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 01:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My question is about the following standard: MCC.7.SP.3 ... measuring the difference between the centers by expressing it as a multiple of a measure of variability.  The Illustrative Math Project task for this standard states, &quot;The difference in means of 1.5 million is only on the order of 1/3 of the MADs, indicating that the means are not far apart in light of the variation in populations among the states.&quot;  Since comparing the difference in means to a variation of the MADs is not something that I&#039;ve ever seen done before (let alone in 7th grade), where would be a good place to go to get a good understanding of why it makes sense to compare these statistics in this manner.  In essence, I need to make sense of this myself, before I can make it make sense to my 7th graders.  HELP!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question is about the following standard: MCC.7.SP.3 &#8230; measuring the difference between the centers by expressing it as a multiple of a measure of variability.  The Illustrative Math Project task for this standard states, &#8220;The difference in means of 1.5 million is only on the order of 1/3 of the MADs, indicating that the means are not far apart in light of the variation in populations among the states.&#8221;  Since comparing the difference in means to a variation of the MADs is not something that I&#8217;ve ever seen done before (let alone in 7th grade), where would be a good place to go to get a good understanding of why it makes sense to compare these statistics in this manner.  In essence, I need to make sense of this myself, before I can make it make sense to my 7th graders.  HELP!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Ashli</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1543</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 00:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Scott,
This post might be what you are looking for: http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/
Cheers,
Ashli]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Scott,<br />
This post might be what you are looking for: <a href="http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/" rel="nofollow">http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/</a><br />
Cheers,<br />
Ashli</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1542</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 23:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Robert,
I just wanted to follow up and let you know that the ability to directly link to a task at illustrativemathematics.org is now available. We are also working on providing a pdf link for all tasks, but that is a work in progress for older tasks.
Cheers,
Ashli]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert,<br />
I just wanted to follow up and let you know that the ability to directly link to a task at illustrativemathematics.org is now available. We are also working on providing a pdf link for all tasks, but that is a work in progress for older tasks.<br />
Cheers,<br />
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Erin Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1541</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 21:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Bill, for your response.  Also in standard 2.NBT.7, I was wondering what was expected by the statement, &quot;relate the strategy to a written method.&quot;  What types of written methods does this standard refer to?  I was thinking that the students should have a way to capture their mathematical thinking in writing and the problem it represents (knowing how to show a sketch of the base 10 materials and connect it to the written problem 125 +241 = 366), but I wasn&#039;t sure.  Thanks for your help.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Bill, for your response.  Also in standard 2.NBT.7, I was wondering what was expected by the statement, &#8220;relate the strategy to a written method.&#8221;  What types of written methods does this standard refer to?  I was thinking that the students should have a way to capture their mathematical thinking in writing and the problem it represents (knowing how to show a sketch of the base 10 materials and connect it to the written problem 125 +241 = 366), but I wasn&#8217;t sure.  Thanks for your help.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by matishastanton</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1539</link>
		<dc:creator>matishastanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 01:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,
I work with teachers in multiplie school districts and have had the same reocurring question.  What does &quot;mastery&quot; mean regarding the CCSS for math?  Teachers are not sure if &quot;mastery&quot; in each grade level is referred to a certain percent or something else.  Any explanation would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for this blog - it has helped answer a lot of questions!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
I work with teachers in multiplie school districts and have had the same reocurring question.  What does &#8220;mastery&#8221; mean regarding the CCSS for math?  Teachers are not sure if &#8220;mastery&#8221; in each grade level is referred to a certain percent or something else.  Any explanation would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for this blog &#8211; it has helped answer a lot of questions!!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Erin Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1529</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 03:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, Lane, it seems to be that way in NY too.  So I don&#039;t think it&#039;s just Missouri.   Many of our RTTT state sponsored training sessions have been on ELA, and we have had minimal training on the CCSS math to this point.  I don&#039;t know why that is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Lane, it seems to be that way in NY too.  So I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s just Missouri.   Many of our RTTT state sponsored training sessions have been on ELA, and we have had minimal training on the CCSS math to this point.  I don&#8217;t know why that is.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1528</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 02:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This looks like a precursor for the definition of a derivative...from a a typical 13- or 14-year old Algebra I student.  I&#039;m biting my lip on this one.  Our 17- 18- year- old AP Calc students find that definition challenging to wrap their minds around when it is given to them.  Is there something I&#039;m misinterpreting here as far as expectations for Algebra I?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks like a precursor for the definition of a derivative&#8230;from a a typical 13- or 14-year old Algebra I student.  I&#8217;m biting my lip on this one.  Our 17- 18- year- old AP Calc students find that definition challenging to wrap their minds around when it is given to them.  Is there something I&#8217;m misinterpreting here as far as expectations for Algebra I?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Upcoming Webinar by Ellen Whitesides</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/25/upcoming-webinar/#comment-1520</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen Whitesides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 20:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately Bill was unable to join for the webinar, but here is the link:
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ccsso.org/Resources/Digital_Resources/Mathematics_Common_Core_Standards_Webinar.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Webinar Link&lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately Bill was unable to join for the webinar, but here is the link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ccsso.org/Resources/Digital_Resources/Mathematics_Common_Core_Standards_Webinar.html" rel="nofollow">Webinar Link</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by David Thiel</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1519</link>
		<dc:creator>David Thiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 17:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bridgett,

The usefulness of the mode depends on the nature of the data.  If the data are discrete with a limited number of values (e.g. the number of pets each of our students own), then the mode may tell us something interesting.  If the data are more continuous with many different valued (e.g. the heights of our students measured in cm), then the mode may be of little use.

6.SP.5d speaks of relating choice of measure of center to shape and context.  That is the heart of it.  Students should understand conceptually when the mode is and is not useful as a summary measure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bridgett,</p>
<p>The usefulness of the mode depends on the nature of the data.  If the data are discrete with a limited number of values (e.g. the number of pets each of our students own), then the mode may tell us something interesting.  If the data are more continuous with many different valued (e.g. the heights of our students measured in cm), then the mode may be of little use.</p>
<p>6.SP.5d speaks of relating choice of measure of center to shape and context.  That is the heart of it.  Students should understand conceptually when the mode is and is not useful as a summary measure.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Upcoming Webinar by Natosha West</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/25/upcoming-webinar/#comment-1517</link>
		<dc:creator>Natosha West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 17:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this available now?]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1509</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 04:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a great idea about &quot;simplify&quot; not being simpler!  One of the biggest hurdles for Algebra 2 students, though, is working with rational expressions/equations when they are inexperienced with finding that least common denominator.  They want to multiply all the denominators together and end up with 4th and 5th power polynomials in the numerator instead of easily factorable quadratics.  How do the successful countries handle a problem like that?  Do they skip the least common denominator or is it something we are overlooking?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great idea about &#8220;simplify&#8221; not being simpler!  One of the biggest hurdles for Algebra 2 students, though, is working with rational expressions/equations when they are inexperienced with finding that least common denominator.  They want to multiply all the denominators together and end up with 4th and 5th power polynomials in the numerator instead of easily factorable quadratics.  How do the successful countries handle a problem like that?  Do they skip the least common denominator or is it something we are overlooking?</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1508</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 04:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m wondering why I don&#039;t see as much &quot;push&quot; for CCSS math as there is for English-Literacy when so many more students require remedial math than reading when entering college.  Is this just in Missouri?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering why I don&#8217;t see as much &#8220;push&#8221; for CCSS math as there is for English-Literacy when so many more students require remedial math than reading when entering college.  Is this just in Missouri?</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1503</link>
		<dc:creator>mathstatcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 19:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bridgett,

The usefulness of mode is dependent on the nature of the data.  If a data set is discrete with a small number of different values, e.g. how many pets each of our students own, then the mode may have significance.  If it tends to be more continuous and/or have a lot of different values, e.g. the heights of our students measured in cm, then the mode may not tell us anything useful.

6.SP.5d asks students to relate the choice of measure of center to shape and context.  That gets to the root of it.  If mode is part of a curriculum, there should be conceptual understanding of what it does and doesn&#039;t) tell us about our data, beyond the skill of computing it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bridgett,</p>
<p>The usefulness of mode is dependent on the nature of the data.  If a data set is discrete with a small number of different values, e.g. how many pets each of our students own, then the mode may have significance.  If it tends to be more continuous and/or have a lot of different values, e.g. the heights of our students measured in cm, then the mode may not tell us anything useful.</p>
<p>6.SP.5d asks students to relate the choice of measure of center to shape and context.  That gets to the root of it.  If mode is part of a curriculum, there should be conceptual understanding of what it does and doesn&#8217;t) tell us about our data, beyond the skill of computing it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Liz Yockey</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1502</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz Yockey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 19:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am wondering about the difference between 6.NS.8 (Solve real-world and mathematical problems by graphing points in all four quadrants of the coordinate plane. Include use of coordinates and absolute value to find distances between points with the same first coordinate or the same second coordinate.) and 6.G.3 (Draw polygons in the coordinate plane given coordinates for the vertices; use coordinates to find the length of a side joining points with the same first coordinate or the same second coordinate. Apply these techniques in the context of solving real-world and mathematical problems.)

I see that 6.NS.8 could be interpreted much more broadly than 6.G.3, so I guess I am wondering what are appropriate 6.NS.8-type tasks that are NOT already 6.G.3-type tasks? I would not include graphing proportional relationships or relationships between an independent and a dependent variable as there are other standards about those situations.

I checked illustratedmathematics.org and didn&#039;t find any illustrations for these. Looking forward to having some soon! All of this has been so helpful!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wondering about the difference between 6.NS.8 (Solve real-world and mathematical problems by graphing points in all four quadrants of the coordinate plane. Include use of coordinates and absolute value to find distances between points with the same first coordinate or the same second coordinate.) and 6.G.3 (Draw polygons in the coordinate plane given coordinates for the vertices; use coordinates to find the length of a side joining points with the same first coordinate or the same second coordinate. Apply these techniques in the context of solving real-world and mathematical problems.)</p>
<p>I see that 6.NS.8 could be interpreted much more broadly than 6.G.3, so I guess I am wondering what are appropriate 6.NS.8-type tasks that are NOT already 6.G.3-type tasks? I would not include graphing proportional relationships or relationships between an independent and a dependent variable as there are other standards about those situations.</p>
<p>I checked illustratedmathematics.org and didn&#8217;t find any illustrations for these. Looking forward to having some soon! All of this has been so helpful!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Leandra</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1501</link>
		<dc:creator>Leandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 18:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3.OA.7 Fluently multiply and divide within 100 and know from memory all basic facts up to 9x9.  

In addition to knowing from memory the basic multiplication facts are 3rd graders becoming fluent with 2-digit by 1 -digit multiplication so long as the product is 100 or less? For example they should be expected to find 27 x 3 or 15 x 4, but not 47 x 5 or 85 x 2.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3.OA.7 Fluently multiply and divide within 100 and know from memory all basic facts up to 9&#215;9.  </p>
<p>In addition to knowing from memory the basic multiplication facts are 3rd graders becoming fluent with 2-digit by 1 -digit multiplication so long as the product is 100 or less? For example they should be expected to find 27 x 3 or 15 x 4, but not 47 x 5 or 85 x 2.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Number and Operations in Base Ten by Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 14:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello,  I was wondering if there will be or is a Progression Document on the Number System for grades 6-8.  We are hopeful that the new CCSS-M is a game changer.  The Progressions and the Blog discussions really help us change the language we use to communicate change in content focus to teachers.  Thank you for your anticipated reply and all the work you do everyday.  Hopefully the beauty of Mathematics will be more appreciated as a result of this important work.
~Nancy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,  I was wondering if there will be or is a Progression Document on the Number System for grades 6-8.  We are hopeful that the new CCSS-M is a game changer.  The Progressions and the Blog discussions really help us change the language we use to communicate change in content focus to teachers.  Thank you for your anticipated reply and all the work you do everyday.  Hopefully the beauty of Mathematics will be more appreciated as a result of this important work.<br />
~Nancy</p>
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		<title>Comment on Upcoming Webinar by Gretchen Hazelwood</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/25/upcoming-webinar/#comment-1495</link>
		<dc:creator>Gretchen Hazelwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 13:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where can we locate this recording?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where can we locate this recording?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Tad Watanabe</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1491</link>
		<dc:creator>Tad Watanabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 21:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am very curious to know the answer to the trapezoid definition question.  However, in the final report of the National Math Panel, you find this statement:

&quot;By the end of Grade 5, students should be able to solve problems involving perimeter and area of triangles and all quadrilaterals having at least one pair of parallel sides (i.e., trapezoids).&quot;  (p. 20)

So, it appears that the NMP is saying that the definition of trapezoids is &quot;at least&quot; one pair of parallel sides.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very curious to know the answer to the trapezoid definition question.  However, in the final report of the National Math Panel, you find this statement:</p>
<p>&#8220;By the end of Grade 5, students should be able to solve problems involving perimeter and area of triangles and all quadrilaterals having at least one pair of parallel sides (i.e., trapezoids).&#8221;  (p. 20)</p>
<p>So, it appears that the NMP is saying that the definition of trapezoids is &#8220;at least&#8221; one pair of parallel sides.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Trish Despagni</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1489</link>
		<dc:creator>Trish Despagni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 18:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill, 
First, thank you for answering all of our questions posted here. My questions are regarding Geometry in Grade 5. 
 
5.G.3 Understand that attributes belonging to a category of two-dimensional figures also belong to all subcategories of that category. For example, all rectangles have four right angles and squares are rectangles, so all squares have four right angles.
5.G.4 Classify two-dimensional figures in a hierarchy based on properties.

- How detailed should the hierarchy of 2-dimensional shapes be? Should kite be included?  
- Also, what is the definition of a trapezoid? Is it &quot;only one&quot; pair of parallel sides or &quot;at least&quot; one pair of parallel sides? This would affect the hierarchy diagram. 
Note: According to Van de Walle (2010) in Elementary and Middle School Mathematics, 7th Ed., &quot;Some definitions of trapezoids specify only one pair of parallel sides, in which case the parallelogram would not be a trapezoid. The University of Chicago School Mathematics Project (UCSMP) uses the &quot;at least one pair&quot; definition, meaning that parallelograms and rectangles are trapezoids&quot; (p. 411).

Thanks,
Trish]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
First, thank you for answering all of our questions posted here. My questions are regarding Geometry in Grade 5. </p>
<p>5.G.3 Understand that attributes belonging to a category of two-dimensional figures also belong to all subcategories of that category. For example, all rectangles have four right angles and squares are rectangles, so all squares have four right angles.<br />
5.G.4 Classify two-dimensional figures in a hierarchy based on properties.</p>
<p>- How detailed should the hierarchy of 2-dimensional shapes be? Should kite be included?<br />
- Also, what is the definition of a trapezoid? Is it &#8220;only one&#8221; pair of parallel sides or &#8220;at least&#8221; one pair of parallel sides? This would affect the hierarchy diagram.<br />
Note: According to Van de Walle (2010) in Elementary and Middle School Mathematics, 7th Ed., &#8220;Some definitions of trapezoids specify only one pair of parallel sides, in which case the parallelogram would not be a trapezoid. The University of Chicago School Mathematics Project (UCSMP) uses the &#8220;at least one pair&#8221; definition, meaning that parallelograms and rectangles are trapezoids&#8221; (p. 411).</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Trish</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bridgett</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1488</link>
		<dc:creator>Bridgett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 16:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello!
I have a question about mode in the CC. I see median and mean mentioned in grade 6, but no mention of mode. Where should mode come into play, if at all?
Thanks so much for all of your insights. Excellent blog!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello!<br />
I have a question about mode in the CC. I see median and mean mentioned in grade 6, but no mention of mode. Where should mode come into play, if at all?<br />
Thanks so much for all of your insights. Excellent blog!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Jennie Winters</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1487</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennie Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 16:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you clarify if &quot;A-REI 3.  Solve linear equations and inequalities in one variable, including equations with coefficients represented by letters.&quot; 
includes the expectation of using a linear equation to solve an exponential equation in Algebra I/Math I?

In Appendix A it states:  Extend earlier work with solving linear equations to solving linear inequalities in one variable and to solving literal equations that are linear in the variable being solved for. Include simple exponential equations that rely only on application of the laws of exponents, such as 5x = 125 or 2x = 1/16 .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you clarify if &#8220;A-REI 3.  Solve linear equations and inequalities in one variable, including equations with coefficients represented by letters.&#8221;<br />
includes the expectation of using a linear equation to solve an exponential equation in Algebra I/Math I?</p>
<p>In Appendix A it states:  Extend earlier work with solving linear equations to solving linear inequalities in one variable and to solving literal equations that are linear in the variable being solved for. Include simple exponential equations that rely only on application of the laws of exponents, such as 5x = 125 or 2x = 1/16 .</p>
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		<title>Comment on May 25 &#8211; 27th Workshop Full by Ellen Whitesides</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/16/may-25-27th-workshop-full/#comment-1477</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen Whitesides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 22:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shannon you are all set!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by David Thiel</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1473</link>
		<dc:creator>David Thiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would teaching rules for computing with significant figures also exceed the standard?  Science teachers would be pleased if such rules were taught in first-year algebra.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would teaching rules for computing with significant figures also exceed the standard?  Science teachers would be pleased if such rules were taught in first-year algebra.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Kim Missman</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1472</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Missman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 14:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I only found 35 out of 38 pages? Where is the Algebra 2 material?]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by sheila shaffer</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1458</link>
		<dc:creator>sheila shaffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also from NY....  Sounds like you&#039;re talking 4-8 testing and not Regents.  SLO&#039;s will be used for those subjects who don&#039;t have CCSS.  NY has joined PARCC (but not adopted the assessments, yet, hence the pilot questions on this year&#039;s state tests as a back-up in case PARCC on-line isn&#039;t ready for next year!)  They are also looking at the major assessment being given at about 90% completion of the year&#039;s instruction and are backing off of quarterly assessment being ready for delivery in 2012-2013.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also from NY&#8230;.  Sounds like you&#8217;re talking 4-8 testing and not Regents.  SLO&#8217;s will be used for those subjects who don&#8217;t have CCSS.  NY has joined PARCC (but not adopted the assessments, yet, hence the pilot questions on this year&#8217;s state tests as a back-up in case PARCC on-line isn&#8217;t ready for next year!)  They are also looking at the major assessment being given at about 90% completion of the year&#8217;s instruction and are backing off of quarterly assessment being ready for delivery in 2012-2013.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by sheila shaffer</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1457</link>
		<dc:creator>sheila shaffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I, too, agree that it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense for the CCSS states to be duplicating efforts left and right!!  I know that there is a mapping project for the ELA CCSS (There&#039;s a fee, I believe!) and the same group has indicated the possibility of beginning a mapping project for math.  In the meantime, The Dana Center (funny that it&#039;s out of Texas!) has a scope and sequence available for use for CCSS in math.  Early elementary teachers, check out Winnipeg School Division Numeracy Project; I think some of the ideas/activities are great foe CCSS!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, agree that it doesn&#8217;t make a whole lot of sense for the CCSS states to be duplicating efforts left and right!!  I know that there is a mapping project for the ELA CCSS (There&#8217;s a fee, I believe!) and the same group has indicated the possibility of beginning a mapping project for math.  In the meantime, The Dana Center (funny that it&#8217;s out of Texas!) has a scope and sequence available for use for CCSS in math.  Early elementary teachers, check out Winnipeg School Division Numeracy Project; I think some of the ideas/activities are great foe CCSS!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Jennie Winters</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1447</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennie Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I interpret your comment to mean that the using money to practice counting by 1&#039;s, 10&#039;s, and 5&#039;s in their respective levels or using the clock to practice numeral identification would be reasonable, as those are real-life applications of the mathematics students are expected to be exploring at their level.  However, pushing students to count with mixed coins before they have a sense of number composition and decomposition would be discouraged.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I interpret your comment to mean that the using money to practice counting by 1&#8242;s, 10&#8242;s, and 5&#8242;s in their respective levels or using the clock to practice numeral identification would be reasonable, as those are real-life applications of the mathematics students are expected to be exploring at their level.  However, pushing students to count with mixed coins before they have a sense of number composition and decomposition would be discouraged.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Scott Koch</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1445</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Koch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[has anyone developed potential timelines for teaching with the common core standards? Our district is finding it difficult to get through all the topics in time for state tests which occur in April.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has anyone developed potential timelines for teaching with the common core standards? Our district is finding it difficult to get through all the topics in time for state tests which occur in April.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Janice</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1443</link>
		<dc:creator>Janice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m trying to understand the placement of this standard N-RN.3 in Unit 5 (Appendix A) and what the teaching of it entails in the context of the Unit. It appears nowhere else in any course. I&#039;m thinking it may be pointing to understanding and working with radicals since radicals consistently appear while working with quadratics. If it is pointing to radicals, why was it not introduced in Unit 4 when students are working with quadratic expressions and equations?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to understand the placement of this standard N-RN.3 in Unit 5 (Appendix A) and what the teaching of it entails in the context of the Unit. It appears nowhere else in any course. I&#8217;m thinking it may be pointing to understanding and working with radicals since radicals consistently appear while working with quadratics. If it is pointing to radicals, why was it not introduced in Unit 4 when students are working with quadratic expressions and equations?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Ellen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1433</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 00:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark -
You mention state testing (CSTs). In high school, the Common Core State Standards will not be tested with CST End of Course Exams.  The summative assessment in high school (CA is part of SMARTER Balanced Assessment Consortium) will be at the end of junior year, and all standards except those marked with a (+) can be tested. Our current testing model will be different, with schools and districts having some flexibility over the testing window in the 11th grade.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark -<br />
You mention state testing (CSTs). In high school, the Common Core State Standards will not be tested with CST End of Course Exams.  The summative assessment in high school (CA is part of SMARTER Balanced Assessment Consortium) will be at the end of junior year, and all standards except those marked with a (+) can be tested. Our current testing model will be different, with schools and districts having some flexibility over the testing window in the 11th grade.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Tad Watanabe</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1429</link>
		<dc:creator>Tad Watanabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it is a matter of how quick is quick enough.  For example, in Grade 1, if a child thinks, without hesitation, &quot;9 + 4 is 9 and 1 is 10 and 3 more is 13&quot; it will be quick enough to be fluent.  However, it is definitely not as quick as simply recalling the fact 9+4=13.

On the other hand, Russell&#039;s definition of fluency may be a bit problematic.  For example, if a 2nd grader is adding 9 + 8 by counting on 8 times from 9, without hesitation, is he fluent?  I would say no because I would want 2nd graders to be moving away from inefficient counting strategy to obtain the correct answer.

As for assessing Kindergarteners, my inclination is not to worry about &quot;know from memory&quot; since the CCSS does not say it explicitly.  I may still use flash cards to pose questions, but I would be assessing not how quickly students give me the correct answers but how they seem to be obtaining the answers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is a matter of how quick is quick enough.  For example, in Grade 1, if a child thinks, without hesitation, &#8220;9 + 4 is 9 and 1 is 10 and 3 more is 13&#8243; it will be quick enough to be fluent.  However, it is definitely not as quick as simply recalling the fact 9+4=13.</p>
<p>On the other hand, Russell&#8217;s definition of fluency may be a bit problematic.  For example, if a 2nd grader is adding 9 + 8 by counting on 8 times from 9, without hesitation, is he fluent?  I would say no because I would want 2nd graders to be moving away from inefficient counting strategy to obtain the correct answer.</p>
<p>As for assessing Kindergarteners, my inclination is not to worry about &#8220;know from memory&#8221; since the CCSS does not say it explicitly.  I may still use flash cards to pose questions, but I would be assessing not how quickly students give me the correct answers but how they seem to be obtaining the answers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1428</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, &quot;fluently&quot; refers to how you do a calculation, whereas &quot;know from memory&quot; means  being able to produce the answer when prompted without having to do a calculation. In CCSS, &quot;fluent&quot; means &quot;fast and accurate.&quot; The sort of flexibility that Tad is talking about is coded into many of the standards that are not explicitly about fluency, so it is part of the standards as a whole. I note that Tad says &quot;fluent&quot; does not necessarily imply &quot;quick&quot;, whereas I have said that it does imply &quot;fast&quot;. So there seems to be a bit of disagreement there, although maybe not that much; &quot;fast&quot; for a Kindergartner is not as fast as &quot;fast&quot; for a 2nd grader. If a Kindergartner adds numbers within 5 by saying the starting number and then counting on at a normal verbal pace, without hesitation, and gets it right each time, then I would say the student is fluently adding within 5.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, &#8220;fluently&#8221; refers to how you do a calculation, whereas &#8220;know from memory&#8221; means  being able to produce the answer when prompted without having to do a calculation. In CCSS, &#8220;fluent&#8221; means &#8220;fast and accurate.&#8221; The sort of flexibility that Tad is talking about is coded into many of the standards that are not explicitly about fluency, so it is part of the standards as a whole. I note that Tad says &#8220;fluent&#8221; does not necessarily imply &#8220;quick&#8221;, whereas I have said that it does imply &#8220;fast&#8221;. So there seems to be a bit of disagreement there, although maybe not that much; &#8220;fast&#8221; for a Kindergartner is not as fast as &#8220;fast&#8221; for a 2nd grader. If a Kindergartner adds numbers within 5 by saying the starting number and then counting on at a normal verbal pace, without hesitation, and gets it right each time, then I would say the student is fluently adding within 5.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1427</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, your example certainly fits the standard. Also, situations where you use those interlocking cubes to build up lines, then put the lines together to make rectangles. One of the purposes of this is to get students accustomed to holding more than two different levels of structure in their minds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, your example certainly fits the standard. Also, situations where you use those interlocking cubes to build up lines, then put the lines together to make rectangles. One of the purposes of this is to get students accustomed to holding more than two different levels of structure in their minds.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1426</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s somewhere in between formal proof and giving an example. I can imagine a lesson that starts with examples, and then asks students to &quot;look for and express regularity in repeated reasoning&quot; (MP8) and come up with a general algebraic argument.  That argument could look something like this: if f(x) = mx + b, then f(x) grows by mh over any interval of length h, because f(x+h) - f(x) = m(x+h) + b - mx - b = mh. Initially students might just look at cases where the length of the interval is 1, and where m and b are given numbers, and then build up from there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s somewhere in between formal proof and giving an example. I can imagine a lesson that starts with examples, and then asks students to &#8220;look for and express regularity in repeated reasoning&#8221; (MP8) and come up with a general algebraic argument.  That argument could look something like this: if f(x) = mx + b, then f(x) grows by mh over any interval of length h, because f(x+h) &#8211; f(x) = m(x+h) + b &#8211; mx &#8211; b = mh. Initially students might just look at cases where the length of the interval is 1, and where m and b are given numbers, and then build up from there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1425</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Examples involving circles, ellipses, and hyperbolas certainly fit with the standard. However, the standard does not require that you cover all of these cases.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Examples involving circles, ellipses, and hyperbolas certainly fit with the standard. However, the standard does not require that you cover all of these cases.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1424</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note that this standard is not about solving equations, but about writing them. It does not include matrices. For example, it includes writing the equation Q = 100 + 5t to represent a quantity that grows at a constant rate, and then graphing Q against t. The &quot;two or more variables&quot; allows for situations where you might have a quantity that depends on more than one variable. For example, the balance in a bank account might depend on both the number of years t and on the interest rate r, B = 1000(1+r)^t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that this standard is not about solving equations, but about writing them. It does not include matrices. For example, it includes writing the equation Q = 100 + 5t to represent a quantity that grows at a constant rate, and then graphing Q against t. The &#8220;two or more variables&#8221; allows for situations where you might have a quantity that depends on more than one variable. For example, the balance in a bank account might depend on both the number of years t and on the interest rate r, B = 1000(1+r)^t.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Brian Cohen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1423</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As teachers and curriculum writers exercise this judgment, I hope they turn to Mathematical Practice 6 (Attend to Precision) for some guidance.  It seems to me that there is nothing incorrect about measuring mass in pounds (though it is definitely not conventional).  &quot;Weight&quot; is measured on a scale and is affected by gravity.  &quot;Mass&quot; is measured on a balance, which means that changing gravitational pulls would not affect it.  For example, my weight on earth would be different than my weight on the moon; however, my mass would be the same on earth as on the moon.

With this, it seems that using mass and weight interchangeably would not be ‘Attending to Precision,’ as they are not synonymous.  I would not have a problem using pounds as a unit for measuring mass, as long as we are measuring on a balance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As teachers and curriculum writers exercise this judgment, I hope they turn to Mathematical Practice 6 (Attend to Precision) for some guidance.  It seems to me that there is nothing incorrect about measuring mass in pounds (though it is definitely not conventional).  &#8220;Weight&#8221; is measured on a scale and is affected by gravity.  &#8220;Mass&#8221; is measured on a balance, which means that changing gravitational pulls would not affect it.  For example, my weight on earth would be different than my weight on the moon; however, my mass would be the same on earth as on the moon.</p>
<p>With this, it seems that using mass and weight interchangeably would not be ‘Attending to Precision,’ as they are not synonymous.  I would not have a problem using pounds as a unit for measuring mass, as long as we are measuring on a balance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1422</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, that exceeds the standard. The standard just mean students should be able to choose the right level of accuracy. For example, if the legs of a right triangle are measured using a ruler marked in 10ths of a centimeter, and you calculate the hypotenuse using the Pythagorean theorem, it does not make sense to report the answer to two decimal places.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that exceeds the standard. The standard just mean students should be able to choose the right level of accuracy. For example, if the legs of a right triangle are measured using a ruler marked in 10ths of a centimeter, and you calculate the hypotenuse using the Pythagorean theorem, it does not make sense to report the answer to two decimal places.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1421</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We will have the ability to link to tasks soon. As for the copying question, it&#039;s fine as long as you acknowledge the source, and follow the rules in the license (bottom left of the page).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will have the ability to link to tasks soon. As for the copying question, it&#8217;s fine as long as you acknowledge the source, and follow the rules in the license (bottom left of the page).</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1420</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The proof does not have to be a standalone formal object, it could well be embedded in a presentation of the method. There&#039;s a difference between showing how to use a method and explaining why it works. I think it&#039;s a question of the language used while presenting the method. For example, you might say that if (a,b) is a solutions tp a system, then the left side of each equation is equal to the right side of each equation, so adding the left sides gives the same number as adding the right sides. That&#039;s a bit different from just showing the mechanics of adding the equations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The proof does not have to be a standalone formal object, it could well be embedded in a presentation of the method. There&#8217;s a difference between showing how to use a method and explaining why it works. I think it&#8217;s a question of the language used while presenting the method. For example, you might say that if (a,b) is a solutions tp a system, then the left side of each equation is equal to the right side of each equation, so adding the left sides gives the same number as adding the right sides. That&#8217;s a bit different from just showing the mechanics of adding the equations.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1419</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monique is correct: there are opportunities in the standards to explore the angle sum formula for polygons, but it is not explicitly required.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monique is correct: there are opportunities in the standards to explore the angle sum formula for polygons, but it is not explicitly required.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1418</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is certainly something that could be included 6.EE.9.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is certainly something that could be included 6.EE.9.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1417</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This seems to me a case where the judgement of the teacher or curriculum writer is important. On the one hand, there are opportunities to model correct usage here (e.g., talking about the mass of the earth). On the other hand, you don&#039;t want to forbid people from using common language such as &quot;I weigh 60 kg&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems to me a case where the judgement of the teacher or curriculum writer is important. On the one hand, there are opportunities to model correct usage here (e.g., talking about the mass of the earth). On the other hand, you don&#8217;t want to forbid people from using common language such as &#8220;I weigh 60 kg&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1416</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1) It could mean also understanding that when you multiply a quantity expressed in seconds by a quantity expressed in meters per second, then you get a quantity expressed in meters. Also dealing with things like minutes times meters/second, or feet times acres (connecting with 6.G.2).

2) Well, the progression suggests it as a possibility for 6.RP.3d, not a requirement. It&#039;s a natural thing to do, but the standard does not give an explicit list of which unit conversions are expected, so there is room for curriculum writers to use their judgment here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) It could mean also understanding that when you multiply a quantity expressed in seconds by a quantity expressed in meters per second, then you get a quantity expressed in meters. Also dealing with things like minutes times meters/second, or feet times acres (connecting with 6.G.2).</p>
<p>2) Well, the progression suggests it as a possibility for 6.RP.3d, not a requirement. It&#8217;s a natural thing to do, but the standard does not give an explicit list of which unit conversions are expected, so there is room for curriculum writers to use their judgment here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1414</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, you can have a rotation about any point and a dilation from any point, so I guess those would be included. Note that in 8.G.8 students are using the Pythagorean theorem to calculate the distance between any two points.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you can have a rotation about any point and a dilation from any point, so I guess those would be included. Note that in 8.G.8 students are using the Pythagorean theorem to calculate the distance between any two points.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1413</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, these are for measurement data. The number of dots above a given measurement on the horizontal scale indicates how many times that measurement occurs in the data set. When you do the same sort of thing with categorical data you would call it a bar graph.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, these are for measurement data. The number of dots above a given measurement on the horizontal scale indicates how many times that measurement occurs in the data set. When you do the same sort of thing with categorical data you would call it a bar graph.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Patricia</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1412</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our department has been trying to interpret the strands and we are having a difficult time.  One question we have is regarding N.Q.3. (Choose a level of accuracy appropriate to limitations on measurement when reporting quantities).  Does this mean that students should be able to calculate relative error and percent error?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our department has been trying to interpret the strands and we are having a difficult time.  One question we have is regarding N.Q.3. (Choose a level of accuracy appropriate to limitations on measurement when reporting quantities).  Does this mean that students should be able to calculate relative error and percent error?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Terez</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1410</link>
		<dc:creator>Terez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our district is looking for clarification on: A.CED.2: &quot;Create equations in two or more variables to represent relationships between quantities; Graph equations on coordinate axes with labels and scales.&quot; When this strand refers to &quot;two or more variables&quot; does that infer that we need to solve equations with three variables? Would this include teaching matrices?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our district is looking for clarification on: A.CED.2: &#8220;Create equations in two or more variables to represent relationships between quantities; Graph equations on coordinate axes with labels and scales.&#8221; When this strand refers to &#8220;two or more variables&#8221; does that infer that we need to solve equations with three variables? Would this include teaching matrices?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Leandra</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1409</link>
		<dc:creator>Leandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Tad.  So in your opinion, would you start assesessing &quot;know from memory&quot; addition facts only in kinder under 5 and under 10 in 1st as a progression toward the 2nd grade standard?

Or would you just expect them to be able to do them &quot;unhaltingly&quot; but not necessarily from memory?

For our second graders we are using flash cards to assess during individual student interviews and we expect them to know the fact within 3 seconds.  Thoughts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tad.  So in your opinion, would you start assesessing &#8220;know from memory&#8221; addition facts only in kinder under 5 and under 10 in 1st as a progression toward the 2nd grade standard?</p>
<p>Or would you just expect them to be able to do them &#8220;unhaltingly&#8221; but not necessarily from memory?</p>
<p>For our second graders we are using flash cards to assess during individual student interviews and we expect them to know the fact within 3 seconds.  Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Angela</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1408</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could someone provide clarification on A.REI.7: &quot;Solve a simple system consisting of a linear equation and a quadratic equation in two variables algebraically and graphically.&quot; What is the definition of a quadratic used here? Does it include circles, elipses, hyperbolas? Or just parabolas?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could someone provide clarification on A.REI.7: &#8220;Solve a simple system consisting of a linear equation and a quadratic equation in two variables algebraically and graphically.&#8221; What is the definition of a quadratic used here? Does it include circles, elipses, hyperbolas? Or just parabolas?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Jeannine</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1407</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeannine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can someone clarify F.LE.1a?  &quot;Prove that linear functions grow by equal differences over equal intervals; and that exponential functions grow by equal factors over equal intervals&quot;.  Do the students need to be able to do a formal proof of this?  Or will they be given an example and they have to justify it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone clarify F.LE.1a?  &#8220;Prove that linear functions grow by equal differences over equal intervals; and that exponential functions grow by equal factors over equal intervals&#8221;.  Do the students need to be able to do a formal proof of this?  Or will they be given an example and they have to justify it?</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/30/illustrative-mathematics-redesign-and-milestones/#comment-1404</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a post on March 30 there was a comment about FAQ on the illustrative math site.  Does that meant that the many questions that are being posted here which ask specific questions regarding specific standards can be found in one place?  I know that a question has been posted regarding A-REI.5 but I am having some difficulty searching for that in this wonderful and long list of questions and answers.  This would be a great addition if it is not already in the works.  These clarifying questions are extremely helpful. 
Thank you for this site and this forum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a post on March 30 there was a comment about FAQ on the illustrative math site.  Does that meant that the many questions that are being posted here which ask specific questions regarding specific standards can be found in one place?  I know that a question has been posted regarding A-REI.5 but I am having some difficulty searching for that in this wonderful and long list of questions and answers.  This would be a great addition if it is not already in the works.  These clarifying questions are extremely helpful.<br />
Thank you for this site and this forum.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Upcoming Webinar by Ellen Whitesides</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/25/upcoming-webinar/#comment-1403</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen Whitesides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes.  It will be recorded and available after. 

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		<title>Comment on Upcoming Webinar by Mary</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/25/upcoming-webinar/#comment-1402</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will this webinar be archived for those of us who are unable to view it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will this webinar be archived for those of us who are unable to view it?</p>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Tad W</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1382</link>
		<dc:creator>Tad W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think both &quot;building&quot; and &quot;drawing&quot; are types of &quot;modeling.&quot;  So, it&#039;s not a matter of whether students should model or draw.

Modeling (drawing and building) with different materials allow Kindergarten students to start paying attention to the parts that make up shapes.  So, students should engage in modeling activities using tiles (pre-made shapes), sticks (focusing on sides of polygons), drawing by connecting dots on dot grid (seeing the vertices of polygons), etc..  Kindergarteners don&#039;t have to specify those components by formal terms, but those experiences help them move from just seeing the whole shape to being able to (eventually) analyze the components of shapes.

CCSS seems to put a lot more emphasis on 3-D shapes, so I imagine students should have some experiences with building 3-D shapes (with blocks, empty boxes, sticks and clay balls, etc.).  But, drawing, i.e., representing 3-D shapes on a 2-D medium is probably too much for Kindergarteners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think both &#8220;building&#8221; and &#8220;drawing&#8221; are types of &#8220;modeling.&#8221;  So, it&#8217;s not a matter of whether students should model or draw.</p>
<p>Modeling (drawing and building) with different materials allow Kindergarten students to start paying attention to the parts that make up shapes.  So, students should engage in modeling activities using tiles (pre-made shapes), sticks (focusing on sides of polygons), drawing by connecting dots on dot grid (seeing the vertices of polygons), etc..  Kindergarteners don&#8217;t have to specify those components by formal terms, but those experiences help them move from just seeing the whole shape to being able to (eventually) analyze the components of shapes.</p>
<p>CCSS seems to put a lot more emphasis on 3-D shapes, so I imagine students should have some experiences with building 3-D shapes (with blocks, empty boxes, sticks and clay balls, etc.).  But, drawing, i.e., representing 3-D shapes on a 2-D medium is probably too much for Kindergarteners.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Paige</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1.G.2 Compose two-dimensional shapes or three dimensional shapes to create a composite shape, and compse new shapes from the composite shape. 

The second part of this standard confuses me.  What exactly does that entail?

I believe I understand the first portion as combining two right triangles to make a square, which would be your &quot;composite&quot; shape.  So would you take the new square (the composite shape) and another square to make a rectangle?   (Obviously this is just one example.)

p.s. Love this blog.  Really looking forward to the progressions in Geometry!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.G.2 Compose two-dimensional shapes or three dimensional shapes to create a composite shape, and compse new shapes from the composite shape. </p>
<p>The second part of this standard confuses me.  What exactly does that entail?</p>
<p>I believe I understand the first portion as combining two right triangles to make a square, which would be your &#8220;composite&#8221; shape.  So would you take the new square (the composite shape) and another square to make a rectangle?   (Obviously this is just one example.)</p>
<p>p.s. Love this blog.  Really looking forward to the progressions in Geometry!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Big Shifts Ahead for Math Instruction : Education Press Releases</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Monique</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1365</link>
		<dc:creator>Monique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was wondering about this also. My interpretation is that it is appropriate to informally explore the angle sum rule for an n-sided polygon in 8th grade using triangles, potentially having students make a conjecture about a formula. However, formal teaching of it does not seem required nor forbidden in 8th grade. Perhaps a future high school geometry progression document will &quot;shed light on the problem.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering about this also. My interpretation is that it is appropriate to informally explore the angle sum rule for an n-sided polygon in 8th grade using triangles, potentially having students make a conjecture about a formula. However, formal teaching of it does not seem required nor forbidden in 8th grade. Perhaps a future high school geometry progression document will &#8220;shed light on the problem.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Tad Watanabe</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1361</link>
		<dc:creator>Tad Watanabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In November 2000 issue of Teaching Children Mathematics, Susan Jo Russell discussed what NCTM meant by &quot;fluency.&quot;  She writes (p. 154):
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Fluency, as used in Principles and Standards, includes three ideas: efficiency, accuracy, and flexibility.
•	Efficiency implies that the student does not get bogged down in many steps or lose track of the logic of the strategy. An efficient strategy is one that the student can carry out easily, keeping track of subproblems and making use of inter- mediate results to solve the problem.
•      Accuracy depends on several aspects of the problem-solving process, among them, careful recording, the knowledge of basic number com- binations and other important number relation- ships, and concern for double-checking results.
•	Flexibility requires the knowledge of more than one approach to solving a particular kind of problem. Students need to be flexible to be able to choose an appropriate strategy for the prob- lem at hand and also to use one method to solve a problem and another method to double-check the results.
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I don&#039;t know if this view is consistent with the CCSS writers&#039; view, but I like (yes, my personal preference) this view on fluency.  It should also be noted that &quot;fluency&quot; seen from this perspective does not necessarily mean &quot;quick.&quot;

I also think it is interesting that the CCSS distinguish &quot;fluency within 20&quot; and &quot;knows from memory &quot; up to 9+9.  This seems to suggest that students should be fluent with calculations like 13+5 and 18-3 using their understanding of the meaning of operations and number sense.  But, for 1+1 ... 9+9, the CCSS seems to expect students to &quot;just know&quot; the facts.  I also like the fact that the CCSS puts &quot;memorization&quot; AFTER fluency.  I think if students become fluent (as explained by Russell), they will remember basic facts, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In November 2000 issue of Teaching Children Mathematics, Susan Jo Russell discussed what NCTM meant by &#8220;fluency.&#8221;  She writes (p. 154):<br />
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Fluency, as used in Principles and Standards, includes three ideas: efficiency, accuracy, and flexibility.<br />
•	Efficiency implies that the student does not get bogged down in many steps or lose track of the logic of the strategy. An efficient strategy is one that the student can carry out easily, keeping track of subproblems and making use of inter- mediate results to solve the problem.<br />
•      Accuracy depends on several aspects of the problem-solving process, among them, careful recording, the knowledge of basic number com- binations and other important number relation- ships, and concern for double-checking results.<br />
•	Flexibility requires the knowledge of more than one approach to solving a particular kind of problem. Students need to be flexible to be able to choose an appropriate strategy for the prob- lem at hand and also to use one method to solve a problem and another method to double-check the results.<br />
&#8212;<br />
I don&#8217;t know if this view is consistent with the CCSS writers&#8217; view, but I like (yes, my personal preference) this view on fluency.  It should also be noted that &#8220;fluency&#8221; seen from this perspective does not necessarily mean &#8220;quick.&#8221;</p>
<p>I also think it is interesting that the CCSS distinguish &#8220;fluency within 20&#8243; and &#8220;knows from memory &#8221; up to 9+9.  This seems to suggest that students should be fluent with calculations like 13+5 and 18-3 using their understanding of the meaning of operations and number sense.  But, for 1+1 &#8230; 9+9, the CCSS seems to expect students to &#8220;just know&#8221; the facts.  I also like the fact that the CCSS puts &#8220;memorization&#8221; AFTER fluency.  I think if students become fluent (as explained by Russell), they will remember basic facts, too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Leandra</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1353</link>
		<dc:creator>Leandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 21:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, I would start this post with &quot;one more question&quot; but I can&#039;t guarantee it will be my last.  :)  

K.G.5 Model shapes in the world by building shapes from components (e.g., sticks and clay balls) and drawing shapes.

Is this referring to both 2-D and 3-D shapes, and which shapes should we expect them to model as opposed to draw and vice versa?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I would start this post with &#8220;one more question&#8221; but I can&#8217;t guarantee it will be my last.  <img src='http://commoncoretools.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>K.G.5 Model shapes in the world by building shapes from components (e.g., sticks and clay balls) and drawing shapes.</p>
<p>Is this referring to both 2-D and 3-D shapes, and which shapes should we expect them to model as opposed to draw and vice versa?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft high school Statistics and Probability progression by Philip Ogbuehi</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/21/draft-high-school-statistics-and-probability-progression/#comment-1349</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Ogbuehi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This document will be very helpful as my District embarks on the common core journey. I am wondering whether you have a similar document for HS Algebra and Geometry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This document will be very helpful as my District embarks on the common core journey. I am wondering whether you have a similar document for HS Algebra and Geometry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Leandra</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1345</link>
		<dc:creator>Leandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. McCallum,

I need help with clarifying the fluency with addition and subtraction facts in K-2.

K- Fluent with addition &amp; subtraction w/in 5
1- Fluent with addition &amp; subtraction w/in 10
2- Fluent with addition &amp; subtraction w/in 20 AND knows from memory single-digit to 9+9 (add only)

We are working on standards based report cards for our 1-2 grade levels.  We have standards based in Kinder already.  This year in kinder, we listed the standard as shown and then, for assessment purposes only, we used flash cards to assess fluency.  (We were sure to use number talks, images, and manipulatives to ensure understanding).  

When we started working on standards based for 1 and 2 we ran into some confusion, because we had at first thought in K and 1 we should be &quot;flash card fluent&quot; under 5 and under 10 respectively, but then in 2nd it says know from memory for the ones they should be &quot;flash card fluent&quot; with and the word fluent has a slightly different meaning.  

What wording could be used on a report card to differentiate these skills for parents?  And if the K and 1 should not be &quot;know from memory&quot; how should teachers assess the facts in kinder and first?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. McCallum,</p>
<p>I need help with clarifying the fluency with addition and subtraction facts in K-2.</p>
<p>K- Fluent with addition &amp; subtraction w/in 5<br />
1- Fluent with addition &amp; subtraction w/in 10<br />
2- Fluent with addition &amp; subtraction w/in 20 AND knows from memory single-digit to 9+9 (add only)</p>
<p>We are working on standards based report cards for our 1-2 grade levels.  We have standards based in Kinder already.  This year in kinder, we listed the standard as shown and then, for assessment purposes only, we used flash cards to assess fluency.  (We were sure to use number talks, images, and manipulatives to ensure understanding).  </p>
<p>When we started working on standards based for 1 and 2 we ran into some confusion, because we had at first thought in K and 1 we should be &#8220;flash card fluent&#8221; under 5 and under 10 respectively, but then in 2nd it says know from memory for the ones they should be &#8220;flash card fluent&#8221; with and the word fluent has a slightly different meaning.  </p>
<p>What wording could be used on a report card to differentiate these skills for parents?  And if the K and 1 should not be &#8220;know from memory&#8221; how should teachers assess the facts in kinder and first?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Robert Springer</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1342</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Springer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 23:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,
My wife and I are teaching elementary school teachers the principles of Common Core Math in the lower grades. As part of these courses, we give teachers a syllabus with links to relevant material on the internet. You have provided invaluable illustrations of every standard and I would love to provide a link for the teachers to supplement many of the standards being taught (for example:   &quot;3.NF Locating Fractions Greater than One on the Number Line&quot;. However I have not found a simple way of linking to specific discussions and illustrations. We give the teachers the general URL (http://illustrativemathematics.org/standards/k8) to the content standards and tell them the detailed path for finding a particular discussion or illustration. My bet is that most are not willing to follow these fairly tedious paths.

Is there any way to link to this material without going to home page and using the cascading menus?  

A related question is whether there would be any problem if I copied the text and illustrations of interest and put it in the syllabus.

Robert Springer]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
My wife and I are teaching elementary school teachers the principles of Common Core Math in the lower grades. As part of these courses, we give teachers a syllabus with links to relevant material on the internet. You have provided invaluable illustrations of every standard and I would love to provide a link for the teachers to supplement many of the standards being taught (for example:   &#8220;3.NF Locating Fractions Greater than One on the Number Line&#8221;. However I have not found a simple way of linking to specific discussions and illustrations. We give the teachers the general URL (<a href="http://illustrativemathematics.org/standards/k8" rel="nofollow">http://illustrativemathematics.org/standards/k8</a>) to the content standards and tell them the detailed path for finding a particular discussion or illustration. My bet is that most are not willing to follow these fairly tedious paths.</p>
<p>Is there any way to link to this material without going to home page and using the cascading menus?  </p>
<p>A related question is whether there would be any problem if I copied the text and illustrations of interest and put it in the syllabus.</p>
<p>Robert Springer</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Kaycie</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1336</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaycie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 19:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that this standard from eighth grade will be the beginning place for the conversation regarding interior and exterior angles of polygons by concentrating on triangles, but it does not seem to give rise to other polygons with n sides where n is greater than or equal to 3.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that this standard from eighth grade will be the beginning place for the conversation regarding interior and exterior angles of polygons by concentrating on triangles, but it does not seem to give rise to other polygons with n sides where n is greater than or equal to 3.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Brian Cohen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1333</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kaycie,

Maybe what you are looking for is included in 8.G.5 (Use informal arguments to establish facts about the angle sum and exterior angle of triangles, about the angles created when parallel lines are cut by a transversal, and the angle-angle criterion for similarity of triangles. For example, arrange three copies of the same triangle so that the sum of the three angles appears to form a line, and give an argument in terms of transversals why this is so.)?

Brian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaycie,</p>
<p>Maybe what you are looking for is included in 8.G.5 (Use informal arguments to establish facts about the angle sum and exterior angle of triangles, about the angles created when parallel lines are cut by a transversal, and the angle-angle criterion for similarity of triangles. For example, arrange three copies of the same triangle so that the sum of the three angles appears to form a line, and give an argument in terms of transversals why this is so.)?</p>
<p>Brian</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Kaycie</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1330</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaycie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does it mean to &quot;prove that, given a system of two equations in two variables, replacing one equation by the sum of that equation and a multiple of the other produces a system with the same solutions.&quot; (A.REI.5) Does that mean a formalized proof of some type - algebraic or by argument or flow chart or what?  Our teachers know how to present solving systems of equations by linear combination easily enough and how to have students demonstrate their understanding of that skill, but they are stumped by what is expected of students with a proof that linear combinations provides the same solution to the original system of equations.

Any insights you can provide will be greatly appreciated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does it mean to &#8220;prove that, given a system of two equations in two variables, replacing one equation by the sum of that equation and a multiple of the other produces a system with the same solutions.&#8221; (A.REI.5) Does that mean a formalized proof of some type &#8211; algebraic or by argument or flow chart or what?  Our teachers know how to present solving systems of equations by linear combination easily enough and how to have students demonstrate their understanding of that skill, but they are stumped by what is expected of students with a proof that linear combinations provides the same solution to the original system of equations.</p>
<p>Any insights you can provide will be greatly appreciated.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of ther question that I would have is... has anyone taken a poll of the CC states to see which states have adopted the Traditional Model at the HS level vs. the Integrated approach?  This could be useful as we begin to share information/resources, etc.  Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of ther question that I would have is&#8230; has anyone taken a poll of the CC states to see which states have adopted the Traditional Model at the HS level vs. the Integrated approach?  This could be useful as we begin to share information/resources, etc.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Kaycie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaycie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 15:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I work with high school mathematics teachers and would like to ask a question though I&#039;m sure others will follow as we continue to decompose what is within the standards.  I do not see any direct mention of the angles of polygons within the CCSS.  Of course, there is G.SRT.5 Use congruence and similarity criteria for triangles to solve problems and to prove relationships in geometric figures.  We can easily see how angles of polygons could be included in this standard as well as more generalized ideas. Would you clarify this for us?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work with high school mathematics teachers and would like to ask a question though I&#8217;m sure others will follow as we continue to decompose what is within the standards.  I do not see any direct mention of the angles of polygons within the CCSS.  Of course, there is G.SRT.5 Use congruence and similarity criteria for triangles to solve problems and to prove relationships in geometric figures.  We can easily see how angles of polygons could be included in this standard as well as more generalized ideas. Would you clarify this for us?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Brian Cohen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1327</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 15:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,

There seems to be a bit of support out there for the idea.  And I don&#039;t mind working with my groups on producing first drafts.  I have only two questions (and one request):

1.  Is there a way to check with PARCC / SBAC that this work isn&#039;t already in progress by their folks?  (I&#039;d be happy to send an email or make a phone call if you can send me the contact info. for someone who will actually give me an answer!)

2.  If I coordinate an effort at drafts, would you (or any of your groups) be willing to look them over?  If this sort of vetting is more appropriately done by some other group (ex., PARCC / SBAC or others), can you tell me who?

It would be hugely beneficial for the 45 states who have adopted if there was one &quot;common&quot; public space (ie., website) that was an &quot;official&quot; place to disseminate (  

It doesn&#039;t seem that there is any good mechanism in place to produce (or disseminate) this sort of inter-state infrastructure.  Your blog and the Illustrative Math Project are the closest we have.  As a result, 45 states are duplicating efforts and producing different interpretations of the &quot;common&quot; standards.  Is there any way to get one &quot;official&quot; website that would function as a *common* public space to house *common* resources for the 45 states and have *common* inter-state discussions?  Please?!

I know that a lot this comes down to funding... but it seems like individual states have been given a LOT of RTT money that could go a lot farther (and we could reduce the risk of splintering the common standards) if work could be done once by a group of inter-state folks and then shared on ONE inter-state space!
 
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, answers, and providing this blog as a common space,
Brian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>There seems to be a bit of support out there for the idea.  And I don&#8217;t mind working with my groups on producing first drafts.  I have only two questions (and one request):</p>
<p>1.  Is there a way to check with PARCC / SBAC that this work isn&#8217;t already in progress by their folks?  (I&#8217;d be happy to send an email or make a phone call if you can send me the contact info. for someone who will actually give me an answer!)</p>
<p>2.  If I coordinate an effort at drafts, would you (or any of your groups) be willing to look them over?  If this sort of vetting is more appropriately done by some other group (ex., PARCC / SBAC or others), can you tell me who?</p>
<p>It would be hugely beneficial for the 45 states who have adopted if there was one &#8220;common&#8221; public space (ie., website) that was an &#8220;official&#8221; place to disseminate (  </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t seem that there is any good mechanism in place to produce (or disseminate) this sort of inter-state infrastructure.  Your blog and the Illustrative Math Project are the closest we have.  As a result, 45 states are duplicating efforts and producing different interpretations of the &#8220;common&#8221; standards.  Is there any way to get one &#8220;official&#8221; website that would function as a *common* public space to house *common* resources for the 45 states and have *common* inter-state discussions?  Please?!</p>
<p>I know that a lot this comes down to funding&#8230; but it seems like individual states have been given a LOT of RTT money that could go a lot farther (and we could reduce the risk of splintering the common standards) if work could be done once by a group of inter-state folks and then shared on ONE inter-state space!</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing your thoughts, answers, and providing this blog as a common space,<br />
Brian</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1326</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Brian that this would be very useful.  It would be nice for teachers to have common definitions and a common list of key terms to focus on.  It would be helpful to see the terms taught in the grades prior to you that are fair game and which terms are introduced after your grade level. I would be willing to help with this if anyone else is interested on working on this. How can we make sure that what is created is connected to the assessment creation process.  It wouldn&#039;t do much good to give teachers a list of what we think should be taught at each level and then have the test creators working with a different set of vocabulary terms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Brian that this would be very useful.  It would be nice for teachers to have common definitions and a common list of key terms to focus on.  It would be helpful to see the terms taught in the grades prior to you that are fair game and which terms are introduced after your grade level. I would be willing to help with this if anyone else is interested on working on this. How can we make sure that what is created is connected to the assessment creation process.  It wouldn&#8217;t do much good to give teachers a list of what we think should be taught at each level and then have the test creators working with a different set of vocabulary terms.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Patrick</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1322</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 01:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark and Bill,
This is very similar to that of New York State with the number of days that teachers have to teach.  The 130 day layout would be beneficial (although I would assume that with only 130 days, it would make sense to &quot;borrow&quot; the days from all of the areas).  What also interests me is building this kind of a pacing guide with SLO&#039;s and Interim assessments scattered throughout.  We are pushing for at least three Interims throughout the year.  We would also need to build in some time for the scoring of the interims and SLO&#039;s (espcially SLO&#039;s given that teachers who have a stake in student achievement should not grade their own students&#039; papers... which leads to regional scoring).

Anyone else thinking about this as well?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark and Bill,<br />
This is very similar to that of New York State with the number of days that teachers have to teach.  The 130 day layout would be beneficial (although I would assume that with only 130 days, it would make sense to &#8220;borrow&#8221; the days from all of the areas).  What also interests me is building this kind of a pacing guide with SLO&#8217;s and Interim assessments scattered throughout.  We are pushing for at least three Interims throughout the year.  We would also need to build in some time for the scoring of the interims and SLO&#8217;s (espcially SLO&#8217;s given that teachers who have a stake in student achievement should not grade their own students&#8217; papers&#8230; which leads to regional scoring).</p>
<p>Anyone else thinking about this as well?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Mark</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1320</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In your post on Arranging the High School Standards into Courses, you lay out a 159 day pacing guide for Algebra I. In California, the state testing window opens about 145 days into the school year. Plus, there are many interruptions that take instructional days away. What would you recommend if we were trying to build a 130 day blueprint?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your post on Arranging the High School Standards into Courses, you lay out a 159 day pacing guide for Algebra I. In California, the state testing window opens about 145 days into the school year. Plus, there are many interruptions that take instructional days away. What would you recommend if we were trying to build a 130 day blueprint?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Liz Yockey</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1319</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz Yockey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clarification: I see where solving equations of the form falls, but I am wondering about relationships between variables that change, that you might graph on a coordinate plane.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarification: I see where solving equations of the form falls, but I am wondering about relationships between variables that change, that you might graph on a coordinate plane.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Liz Yockey</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1318</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz Yockey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for doing this, Bill! I see a big emphasis on equations, tables, and graphs that represent proportional relationships in the standards, and I am wondering where the first place is that you might introduce an algebraic relationship between variables that is not proportional (e.g. y = mx +b where b is non-zero). Is that something to be included in 6.EE.9 (Use variables to represent two quantities in a real-world problem that change in relationship to one another) or is it something that first appears in 8th grade Functions or somewhere in between?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for doing this, Bill! I see a big emphasis on equations, tables, and graphs that represent proportional relationships in the standards, and I am wondering where the first place is that you might introduce an algebraic relationship between variables that is not proportional (e.g. y = mx +b where b is non-zero). Is that something to be included in 6.EE.9 (Use variables to represent two quantities in a real-world problem that change in relationship to one another) or is it something that first appears in 8th grade Functions or somewhere in between?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Patrick</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1317</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This would be a fantastic resource for our districts/teachers as one of the larger issues that I see with our math instruction in our area is a lack of vertical alignment (both in instruction and in terminology/definitions).  Like many of you, our districts will be re-working curriculum maps that align with the Common Core language/content.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be a fantastic resource for our districts/teachers as one of the larger issues that I see with our math instruction in our area is a lack of vertical alignment (both in instruction and in terminology/definitions).  Like many of you, our districts will be re-working curriculum maps that align with the Common Core language/content.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Robert Springer</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-1312</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Springer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 23:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,
My wife and I are currently assisting the Amphitheater School District with the training of their teachers from grade K to 6 on the Common Core Standards. We would love to have links in our PowerPoint presentations and PDF files (both of which we give to the teachers attending our classes) that went directly to a portion of the text or an illustration that we would like to provide as part of our lesson.

For example, teachers have a hard time understanding the division of a fraction by a fraction. The 6.NS Traffic Jam illustration provides an excellent means of giving teachers some intuition about the division of fractions.

The problem is that I see no way to link to this illustration directly, or any text with the illustrations. Are there any plans to provide links. I don&#039;t think I can get elementary school teachers to go to the home page and navigate down. In case the answer is no, am I free to copy and paste illustrations such as the one referenced in my presentation?

Robert Springer]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
My wife and I are currently assisting the Amphitheater School District with the training of their teachers from grade K to 6 on the Common Core Standards. We would love to have links in our PowerPoint presentations and PDF files (both of which we give to the teachers attending our classes) that went directly to a portion of the text or an illustration that we would like to provide as part of our lesson.</p>
<p>For example, teachers have a hard time understanding the division of a fraction by a fraction. The 6.NS Traffic Jam illustration provides an excellent means of giving teachers some intuition about the division of fractions.</p>
<p>The problem is that I see no way to link to this illustration directly, or any text with the illustrations. Are there any plans to provide links. I don&#8217;t think I can get elementary school teachers to go to the home page and navigate down. In case the answer is no, am I free to copy and paste illustrations such as the one referenced in my presentation?</p>
<p>Robert Springer</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Heather</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1311</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 21:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,
We are eagerly awaiting the release of the Geometry Learning Progressions and the measurement part of the Measurement and Data Learning Progressions.  As we&#039;re analyzing 3.MD.2 and 4.MD.2, we&#039;re wondering about instruction related to &quot;masses of objects&quot; with elementary school students.  Since elementary students typically focus on objects on Earth, the distinction between mass and weight is not emphasized in most elementary classrooms, and many elementary school teachers often use the terms mass and weight interchangeably.  However, we don&#039;t see any references to weight in the CCSS (other than K.MD.1-2), and we don&#039;t want teachers to inadvertantly foster misconceptions.  Should we follow the more technical route and ONLY refer to &quot;mass&quot; when measuring or estimating with g and kg?  Or, is it okay to meet students where they are and allow teachers to use &quot;weight&quot; (or to interchangeably use mass/weight) since weight is more commonly used in authentic contexts.  Your insight would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you in advance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
We are eagerly awaiting the release of the Geometry Learning Progressions and the measurement part of the Measurement and Data Learning Progressions.  As we&#8217;re analyzing 3.MD.2 and 4.MD.2, we&#8217;re wondering about instruction related to &#8220;masses of objects&#8221; with elementary school students.  Since elementary students typically focus on objects on Earth, the distinction between mass and weight is not emphasized in most elementary classrooms, and many elementary school teachers often use the terms mass and weight interchangeably.  However, we don&#8217;t see any references to weight in the CCSS (other than K.MD.1-2), and we don&#8217;t want teachers to inadvertantly foster misconceptions.  Should we follow the more technical route and ONLY refer to &#8220;mass&#8221; when measuring or estimating with g and kg?  Or, is it okay to meet students where they are and allow teachers to use &#8220;weight&#8221; (or to interchangeably use mass/weight) since weight is more commonly used in authentic contexts.  Your insight would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you in advance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1310</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 19:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tad has it right. The idea is to limit to situations where you can see the equivalence by direct reasoning from the definition of a fraction, but not get into the general way of seeing equivalence. For example, you might see that 1/2 is equivalent to 3/6 using a tape diagram divided into 2 and then into 6. But you wouldn&#039;t get into 3/6 = 3x1/3x2 = 1/2.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tad has it right. The idea is to limit to situations where you can see the equivalence by direct reasoning from the definition of a fraction, but not get into the general way of seeing equivalence. For example, you might see that 1/2 is equivalent to 3/6 using a tape diagram divided into 2 and then into 6. But you wouldn&#8217;t get into 3/6 = 3&#215;1/3&#215;2 = 1/2.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Tad W</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1309</link>
		<dc:creator>Tad W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 19:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure what &quot;special cases&quot; may be, but the denominators in Grade 3 are limited to 2, 3, 4, 6, and 8.  Although the CCSS does not limit the fractions to be discussed in Grade 3 to proper fractions, there are still infinitely many fractions with those denominators.  However, I would suspect that the limit of equivalent fractions in Grade 3 will be basically the proper fraction situations, that is, 1/2 = 2/4 = 3/6 = 4/8, 1/3 = 2/6, 2/3 = 4/6, 1/4 = 2/8 and 3/4 = 6/8.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure what &#8220;special cases&#8221; may be, but the denominators in Grade 3 are limited to 2, 3, 4, 6, and 8.  Although the CCSS does not limit the fractions to be discussed in Grade 3 to proper fractions, there are still infinitely many fractions with those denominators.  However, I would suspect that the limit of equivalent fractions in Grade 3 will be basically the proper fraction situations, that is, 1/2 = 2/4 = 3/6 = 4/8, 1/3 = 2/6, 2/3 = 4/6, 1/4 = 2/8 and 3/4 = 6/8.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Cobb</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1307</link>
		<dc:creator>Cobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks so much for taking time to repond to all of these questions.  What it meant when in third grade NF 3 special cases?  
3NF3. Explain equivalence of fractions in special cases, and compare fractions by reasoning about their size.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for taking time to repond to all of these questions.  What it meant when in third grade NF 3 special cases?<br />
3NF3. Explain equivalence of fractions in special cases, and compare fractions by reasoning about their size.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Rob Lengacher (@amishrob)</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1306</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Lengacher (@amishrob)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Bill,

The progressions document on Ratios and Proportional Reasoning 6-7 has been incredibly helpful as I attempt to dig into 6.RP.3a-d. However, I have two questions about 6.RP.3d:

1) I&#039;m not sure I understand the expectation for students where it states, &quot;manipulate and transform units&quot;. The standard is clear up to that point, but this phrase seems to suggest actions other than converting. Am I trying to read too much into it?  Or is this suggesting some application of the standards for mathematical practice that I am not seeing?

2) From the last paragraph on p. 7 of the progressions document, it seems that converting units between measurement systems (customary to metric and vice versa) using ratio reasoning is an expectation for sixth graders. Is this correct?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,</p>
<p>The progressions document on Ratios and Proportional Reasoning 6-7 has been incredibly helpful as I attempt to dig into 6.RP.3a-d. However, I have two questions about 6.RP.3d:</p>
<p>1) I&#8217;m not sure I understand the expectation for students where it states, &#8220;manipulate and transform units&#8221;. The standard is clear up to that point, but this phrase seems to suggest actions other than converting. Am I trying to read too much into it?  Or is this suggesting some application of the standards for mathematical practice that I am not seeing?</p>
<p>2) From the last paragraph on p. 7 of the progressions document, it seems that converting units between measurement systems (customary to metric and vice versa) using ratio reasoning is an expectation for sixth graders. Is this correct?</p>
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		<title>Comment on May 25 &#8211; 27th Workshop Full by Deborah Devine</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/16/may-25-27th-workshop-full/#comment-1305</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Devine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any chance of sponsoring another workshop during the summer instead of waiting to the fall?
Deborah Devine]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any chance of sponsoring another workshop during the summer instead of waiting to the fall?<br />
Deborah Devine</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Danielle Goedel</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1304</link>
		<dc:creator>Danielle Goedel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding 8.G.3:  When using coordinates to show the effects of transformations should students be able to extend that knowledge to rotation and dilation points other than the origin?  It seems that distance from the origin is the basis so I was wondering if they should be able to extend that knowledge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding 8.G.3:  When using coordinates to show the effects of transformations should students be able to extend that knowledge to rotation and dilation points other than the origin?  It seems that distance from the origin is the basis so I was wondering if they should be able to extend that knowledge.</p>
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		<title>Comment on May 25 &#8211; 27th Workshop Full by Ellen Whitesides</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/16/may-25-27th-workshop-full/#comment-1302</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen Whitesides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 00:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes!  In order to keep costs low for participants we are holding the workshop in our partner district, St. Charles Parish, in a PD facility in Luling Louisiana.  

Participants are encouraged to book accommodations at hotels near New Orleans International Airport in Kenner, Louisiana. Shuttles to and from the conference location from the below hotels will be provided as well as transportation for an evening in the downtown French Quarter on Saturday May 26th.

Country Inn and Suites has offered the conference rate (mention CCSSM) of $82 plus tax per night for either a room with two double beds, or a king suite if reservations are made before May 2nd. Contact the hotel directly: 504-305-1501

Other Airport Hotels

Crowne Plaza $260+tax per night 
504-467-5611 
2829 Williams Boulevard
Kenner, LA 70062

Double Tree Hilton $89+tax per night 
504-467-3111 
2150 Veterans Boulevard
Kenner, LA 70062

Econo Lodge $59+tax per night 
504-464-6464 
2125 Veterans Boulevard
Kenner, LA 70062

Hilton New Orleans Airport $98 +tax per night
504-469-5000 
901 Airline Drive
Kenner, LA 70062

La Quinta Inn &amp; Suites New Orleans Airport $82 +tax per night
504-466-1401 
2610 Williams Boulevard
Kenner, LA 70062]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes!  In order to keep costs low for participants we are holding the workshop in our partner district, St. Charles Parish, in a PD facility in Luling Louisiana.  </p>
<p>Participants are encouraged to book accommodations at hotels near New Orleans International Airport in Kenner, Louisiana. Shuttles to and from the conference location from the below hotels will be provided as well as transportation for an evening in the downtown French Quarter on Saturday May 26th.</p>
<p>Country Inn and Suites has offered the conference rate (mention CCSSM) of $82 plus tax per night for either a room with two double beds, or a king suite if reservations are made before May 2nd. Contact the hotel directly: 504-305-1501</p>
<p>Other Airport Hotels</p>
<p>Crowne Plaza $260+tax per night<br />
504-467-5611<br />
2829 Williams Boulevard<br />
Kenner, LA 70062</p>
<p>Double Tree Hilton $89+tax per night<br />
504-467-3111<br />
2150 Veterans Boulevard<br />
Kenner, LA 70062</p>
<p>Econo Lodge $59+tax per night<br />
504-464-6464<br />
2125 Veterans Boulevard<br />
Kenner, LA 70062</p>
<p>Hilton New Orleans Airport $98 +tax per night<br />
504-469-5000<br />
901 Airline Drive<br />
Kenner, LA 70062</p>
<p>La Quinta Inn &amp; Suites New Orleans Airport $82 +tax per night<br />
504-466-1401<br />
2610 Williams Boulevard<br />
Kenner, LA 70062</p>
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		<title>Comment on May 25 &#8211; 27th Workshop Full by Elaine Watson</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/16/may-25-27th-workshop-full/#comment-1301</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 22:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any information on a hotel?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any information on a hotel?</p>
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		<title>Comment on May 25 &#8211; 27th Workshop Full by Shannon Hart</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/16/may-25-27th-workshop-full/#comment-1300</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 22:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How would I know if my registration fee was received?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How would I know if my registration fee was received?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1298</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No worries, I had forgotten about that post. Nice to see that I am consistent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries, I had forgotten about that post. Nice to see that I am consistent.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1297</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve got the right standards there, particularly N-RN.2. I would also include A-SSE.3. Students should be able to rewrite $\sqrt{12}$ as $2 \sqrt{3}$ and vice versa, but neither of these is simpler than the other. The emphasis in the standards is on transforming expressions into different forms for a particular purpose, as described in A-SSE.3. So yes, it&#039;s similar to the conversation about fractions. The word &quot;simplify&quot; does not occur in the standards (except in one grade level introduction, which was an editing error).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve got the right standards there, particularly N-RN.2. I would also include A-SSE.3. Students should be able to rewrite $\sqrt{12}$ as $2 \sqrt{3}$ and vice versa, but neither of these is simpler than the other. The emphasis in the standards is on transforming expressions into different forms for a particular purpose, as described in A-SSE.3. So yes, it&#8217;s similar to the conversation about fractions. The word &#8220;simplify&#8221; does not occur in the standards (except in one grade level introduction, which was an editing error).</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by GJordan</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1296</link>
		<dc:creator>GJordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I apologize, Bill has already replied to this topic on another post chain, here&#039;s his answer:

 &quot;The standard N-RN.2, Rewrite expressions involving radicals and rational exponents using the properties of exponents, could support some work along these lines. But the standards overall try to get away from demanding that students “simplify” things. For example, they don’t expect students to find the least common denominator when adding fractions, or to reduce fractions to lowest terms. When thinking about radicals, it’s not at all obvious that 3 \sqrt{3} is simpler than \sqrt{27}, and the latter form is more useful for some purposes. For example, you can see that the number is slightly bigger than 5 much more easily from this form.&quot;

Thanks, sorry for the oversight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize, Bill has already replied to this topic on another post chain, here&#8217;s his answer:</p>
<p> &#8220;The standard N-RN.2, Rewrite expressions involving radicals and rational exponents using the properties of exponents, could support some work along these lines. But the standards overall try to get away from demanding that students “simplify” things. For example, they don’t expect students to find the least common denominator when adding fractions, or to reduce fractions to lowest terms. When thinking about radicals, it’s not at all obvious that 3 \sqrt{3} is simpler than \sqrt{27}, and the latter form is more useful for some purposes. For example, you can see that the number is slightly bigger than 5 much more easily from this form.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks, sorry for the oversight.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by GJordan</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1295</link>
		<dc:creator>GJordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Bill,
Thanks for the opportunity to ask questions for you and the community. I looked for simplyfing radicals as an individual learning standard and was unable to find it. Is this purposeful have I overlooked this skill? 8.EE is close and so is N.RN.2 . Is this like the above conversation about simplifying fractions?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,<br />
Thanks for the opportunity to ask questions for you and the community. I looked for simplyfing radicals as an individual learning standard and was unable to find it. Is this purposeful have I overlooked this skill? 8.EE is close and so is N.RN.2 . Is this like the above conversation about simplifying fractions?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by GJordan</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1294</link>
		<dc:creator>GJordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, I agree, Brian should start it, and I&#039;m sure others like me would gladly help.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree, Brian should start it, and I&#8217;m sure others like me would gladly help.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Darren Burris (@dgburris)</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1293</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Burris (@dgburris)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any thoughts on the placement of polynomial and rational expressions in the Algebra 2 sequence?  Why after the transcendental functions, modeling unit, and unit on functions?  Intrigued by this placement.  One other surprise was how different this coverage of standards was to the &quot;base&quot; version of the ADP Algebra II course?  Does Achieve have a common core &quot;course&quot;?  In addition, are you working with any states or advising other states on their HS course construction?  Interested to see other solid, well-researched interpretations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any thoughts on the placement of polynomial and rational expressions in the Algebra 2 sequence?  Why after the transcendental functions, modeling unit, and unit on functions?  Intrigued by this placement.  One other surprise was how different this coverage of standards was to the &#8220;base&#8221; version of the ADP Algebra II course?  Does Achieve have a common core &#8220;course&#8221;?  In addition, are you working with any states or advising other states on their HS course construction?  Interested to see other solid, well-researched interpretations.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Erin Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1292</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a question about line plots/dot plots. Are they used exclusively for measurement data?  I see that they are mentioned as the vehicle for displaying and analyzing measurement data in the progressions document, but I wasn&#039;t sure if this meant that you should not use them to represent categorical data. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question about line plots/dot plots. Are they used exclusively for measurement data?  I see that they are mentioned as the vehicle for displaying and analyzing measurement data in the progressions document, but I wasn&#8217;t sure if this meant that you should not use them to represent categorical data. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1291</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know, but my guess is that they won&#039;t be tied to either of these documents, but will try to find a solution based on critiques of Appendix A from their member states, which might involve some adjustments to Appendix A.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, but my guess is that they won&#8217;t be tied to either of these documents, but will try to find a solution based on critiques of Appendix A from their member states, which might involve some adjustments to Appendix A.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Elaine Humes</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1289</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine Humes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is PARRC using the resource from this page to determine what should be included in each of the high school courses or are they using the Appendix A?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is PARRC using the resource from this page to determine what should be included in each of the high school courses or are they using the Appendix A?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Number and Operations in Base Ten by Steve Luthultz</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/06/draft-of-progression-on-number-and-operations-in-base-ten/#comment-1270</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Luthultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still doesn&#039;t work.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Two documents with recommendations for professional development by CK</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/12/21/two-documents-with-recommendations-for-professional-development/#comment-1267</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The final (March 2012) version of the Sztajn et al report &quot;Supporting Implementation of the Common Core State Standards for Mathematics: Recommendations for Professional Development&quot; is &lt;a href=&quot;http://amte.net/sites/all/themes/amte/resources/ccssm/CCSSM_SupportingImplementation.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The final (March 2012) version of the Sztajn et al report &#8220;Supporting Implementation of the Common Core State Standards for Mathematics: Recommendations for Professional Development&#8221; is <a href="http://amte.net/sites/all/themes/amte/resources/ccssm/CCSSM_SupportingImplementation.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1266</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kim, the Standards do not require simplifying fractions into lowest terms, since it is not a mathematically important topic. To quote the &lt;a href=&quot;http://commoncoretools.me/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/ccss_progression_nf_35_2011_08_12.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Fractions Progression &lt;/a&gt;, &quot;It is possible to over-emphasise the importance of reducing fractions .... There is no mathematical reason why fractions must be written in reduced form, although it may be convenient to do so in simple cases.&quot;

Indeed, there are situations where simplifying fractions gets in the way of understanding. For example, insisting that the answer to 1/10 + 3/10 be written as 2/5 gets in the way of the most important understanding that we want students to come away from this problem with, namely that this addition works the same way as whole number addition, with the unit 1 being replaced by the unit 1/10.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim, the Standards do not require simplifying fractions into lowest terms, since it is not a mathematically important topic. To quote the <a href="http://commoncoretools.me/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/ccss_progression_nf_35_2011_08_12.pdf" rel="nofollow"> Fractions Progression </a>, &#8220;It is possible to over-emphasise the importance of reducing fractions &#8230;. There is no mathematical reason why fractions must be written in reduced form, although it may be convenient to do so in simple cases.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed, there are situations where simplifying fractions gets in the way of understanding. For example, insisting that the answer to 1/10 + 3/10 be written as 2/5 gets in the way of the most important understanding that we want students to come away from this problem with, namely that this addition works the same way as whole number addition, with the unit 1 being replaced by the unit 1/10.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1265</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lisa, we don&#039;t have anything in the task bank for S-CP.5 yet, probably because you are right, it&#039;s hard to assess. This standard might be best assessed with a modeling task, where students are expected to choose a model for a situation, including making assumptions about whether events are independent or not, and then evaluating their assumptions. We have a few modeling tasks up on Illustrative Math, but not yet for this standard. If you have any ideas for a task, let me know!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa, we don&#8217;t have anything in the task bank for S-CP.5 yet, probably because you are right, it&#8217;s hard to assess. This standard might be best assessed with a modeling task, where students are expected to choose a model for a situation, including making assumptions about whether events are independent or not, and then evaluating their assumptions. We have a few modeling tasks up on Illustrative Math, but not yet for this standard. If you have any ideas for a task, let me know!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1264</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monique, the Grade 7 standards 7.G.1 gets at some of what you want here: &quot;Solve problems involving scale drawings of geometric figures, including computing actual lengths and areas from a scale drawing and reproducing a scale drawing at a different scale.&quot; It gives an opportunity for student to play around with the informal notion of similarity, without calling it that. There&#039;s a mathematical problem with teaching similarity before congruence, in that the notion of similarity depends on the notion of congruency. That is, two figures are similar if you can scale one so that it is congruent to the other. So that&#039;s the reason for introducing the formal notion of similarity after congruence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monique, the Grade 7 standards 7.G.1 gets at some of what you want here: &#8220;Solve problems involving scale drawings of geometric figures, including computing actual lengths and areas from a scale drawing and reproducing a scale drawing at a different scale.&#8221; It gives an opportunity for student to play around with the informal notion of similarity, without calling it that. There&#8217;s a mathematical problem with teaching similarity before congruence, in that the notion of similarity depends on the notion of congruency. That is, two figures are similar if you can scale one so that it is congruent to the other. So that&#8217;s the reason for introducing the formal notion of similarity after congruence.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1263</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading time and knowing the value of coins are important life skills, which students could learn in many places: in the home, in social studies, in science, in mathematics, in history, or in english language arts. There has been a tendency to overload mathematics standards in particular with these life skills, at the expense of more important work on number and operations. Perhaps this was because mathematics standards came along first, so putting these things there was a way of ensuring they were taught. The view of the Common Core is that, used in the right way, they can be tools for learning about number and operations, but they are not mathematics topics in their own right. If kids come to school with knowledge about them, or if there is a way of weaving them into the curriculum that supports the main focus, then that&#039;s fine. But too often they become the main focus themselves. The strongest message of the Common Core is: focus on what&#039;s important and give it the time it needs, so that kids have a chance to learn it well and progress onto other things. That required paring down previous standards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading time and knowing the value of coins are important life skills, which students could learn in many places: in the home, in social studies, in science, in mathematics, in history, or in english language arts. There has been a tendency to overload mathematics standards in particular with these life skills, at the expense of more important work on number and operations. Perhaps this was because mathematics standards came along first, so putting these things there was a way of ensuring they were taught. The view of the Common Core is that, used in the right way, they can be tools for learning about number and operations, but they are not mathematics topics in their own right. If kids come to school with knowledge about them, or if there is a way of weaving them into the curriculum that supports the main focus, then that&#8217;s fine. But too often they become the main focus themselves. The strongest message of the Common Core is: focus on what&#8217;s important and give it the time it needs, so that kids have a chance to learn it well and progress onto other things. That required paring down previous standards.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1262</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Lisa, I don&#039;t see the standards as dictating any particular teaching method, but rather setting goals for student understanding. Different people have different ideas about what is the best method for achieving that understanding. That said, I think it&#039;s pretty clear that classrooms implementing the standards should have some way of fostering understanding and reasoning, and classrooms where students are just sitting and listening are unlikely to achieve that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Lisa, I don&#8217;t see the standards as dictating any particular teaching method, but rather setting goals for student understanding. Different people have different ideas about what is the best method for achieving that understanding. That said, I think it&#8217;s pretty clear that classrooms implementing the standards should have some way of fostering understanding and reasoning, and classrooms where students are just sitting and listening are unlikely to achieve that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1261</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These are products of the consortia themselves, in their efforts to ensure that the assessments focus on the key ideas in each grade. I haven&#039;t done a thorough or detailed analysis, but I&#039;ve read through them and by and large I would say that yes, they capture the focus in the standards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are products of the consortia themselves, in their efforts to ensure that the assessments focus on the key ideas in each grade. I haven&#8217;t done a thorough or detailed analysis, but I&#8217;ve read through them and by and large I would say that yes, they capture the focus in the standards.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1260</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian, this is a great idea, but I don&#039;t know of any plan to organize it. Maybe you should start one! :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, this is a great idea, but I don&#8217;t know of any plan to organize it. Maybe you should start one! <img src='http://commoncoretools.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Kim</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1259</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello. 
I tried to find the standard associated with simplifying fractions in the lowest terms. However, I couldn&#039;t.  Can you explain when teachers teach this skill to which grade students?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello.<br />
I tried to find the standard associated with simplifying fractions in the lowest terms. However, I couldn&#8217;t.  Can you explain when teachers teach this skill to which grade students?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The data part of the Measurement and Data Progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/06/20/the-data-part-of-the-measurement-and-data-progression/#comment-1257</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The standard doesn&#039;t require these units, no, although of course kids might already be familiar with them. The units of liquid measure explicitly mentioned are liters and milliliters. Note however 6.RP.3d: &quot;Use ratio reasoning to convert measurement units; manipulate and transform units appropriately when multiplying or dividing quantities.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The standard doesn&#8217;t require these units, no, although of course kids might already be familiar with them. The units of liquid measure explicitly mentioned are liters and milliliters. Note however 6.RP.3d: &#8220;Use ratio reasoning to convert measurement units; manipulate and transform units appropriately when multiplying or dividing quantities.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The data part of the Measurement and Data Progression by Shannon Hart</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/06/20/the-data-part-of-the-measurement-and-data-progression/#comment-1249</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HI Bill, Just decided to repost because I haven&#039;t received a response yet. Thanks 

Is cups, pints, quarts, and gallons included in 4MD1 and 5MD1?

Shannon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Bill, Just decided to repost because I haven&#8217;t received a response yet. Thanks </p>
<p>Is cups, pints, quarts, and gallons included in 4MD1 and 5MD1?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lisa</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1237</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again, looking for some guidance -- first, I noticed that the progressions for High School Stats is soon to be released.  I look forward to that.  I am currently studying S-CP.5. It clearly says &quot;in everyday language&quot;. Does this mean that we want students to simply reason about the independence of events. 
While I understand what this is saying I am not sure how we assess students in a fair and consistent manner on standards such as this.  In everyday language seems to imply that some outside knowledge will be required to discuss these types of situations. Is there a possible sample item that is nearly ready for the illustrative math site that could shed some light on this standard?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, looking for some guidance &#8212; first, I noticed that the progressions for High School Stats is soon to be released.  I look forward to that.  I am currently studying S-CP.5. It clearly says &#8220;in everyday language&#8221;. Does this mean that we want students to simply reason about the independence of events.<br />
While I understand what this is saying I am not sure how we assess students in a fair and consistent manner on standards such as this.  In everyday language seems to imply that some outside knowledge will be required to discuss these types of situations. Is there a possible sample item that is nearly ready for the illustrative math site that could shed some light on this standard?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Monique</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1230</link>
		<dc:creator>Monique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Bill,

I am used to there being preliminary work with similar figures in Grade 7 after working with proportions. However, it seems that the intent of the standards is to introduce congruence and similarity with transformations in Grade 8. If this is the case, could you explain the benefit of this approach being taken in the standards?

Thank you for taking the time to answer our questions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,</p>
<p>I am used to there being preliminary work with similar figures in Grade 7 after working with proportions. However, it seems that the intent of the standards is to introduce congruence and similarity with transformations in Grade 8. If this is the case, could you explain the benefit of this approach being taken in the standards?</p>
<p>Thank you for taking the time to answer our questions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spring Common Core Workshop:  May 25 – 27 New Orleans, La by Cathey Nicol</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/09/spring-common-core-workshop-may-25-27-new-orleans-la/#comment-1227</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathey Nicol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this the same format as the Tucson conference was, building PD to take back?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the same format as the Tucson conference was, building PD to take back?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Workshop on professional development in Tucson, Feb 17–19 by Cathey Nicol</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/01/23/workshop-on-professional-development-in-tucson-feb-17-19/#comment-1222</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathey Nicol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 22:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We missed the Tucson session and are trying to get into the N.O. May session, but are there plans for another here in Arizona?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We missed the Tucson session and are trying to get into the N.O. May session, but are there plans for another here in Arizona?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another project for professional development on the Standards by System-level Professional Development: Articulating Research Ideas that Support the Implementation of the Professional Development Needed for Making the Common Core State Standards in Mathematics Reality for K-12 Teachers &#187; In The Press</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/03/16/another-project-for-professional-development-on-the-standards/#comment-1221</link>
		<dc:creator>System-level Professional Development: Articulating Research Ideas that Support the Implementation of the Professional Development Needed for Making the Common Core State Standards in Mathematics Reality for K-12 Teachers &#187; In The Press</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 18:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by copyjared</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-1219</link>
		<dc:creator>copyjared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 18:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I and bunch of other colleagues have Common Core 360, and it has a lot to do with implementing core curriculum. They give video examples from several grade levels, and I think I&#039;ve even seen some 7th and 8th grade materials. Here&#039;s some info: http://www.common-core-tools.com/common-core-tools/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I and bunch of other colleagues have Common Core 360, and it has a lot to do with implementing core curriculum. They give video examples from several grade levels, and I think I&#8217;ve even seen some 7th and 8th grade materials. Here&#8217;s some info: <a href="http://www.common-core-tools.com/common-core-tools/" rel="nofollow">http://www.common-core-tools.com/common-core-tools/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Farshid Hajir</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1209</link>
		<dc:creator>Farshid Hajir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2012 02:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree Lisa&#039;s question is a very important one, not just for this standard, but more globally in terms of &quot;how do we engage students in reasoning and develop their ability to justify statements?&quot;  Back to this particular standard ... Bill&#039;s schematic explanation, cutting to the heart of the matter, is a good example of how a detailed explanation can look &quot;starchy&quot; and obscure the fundamental issue.  Regarding getting middle and high school students to reason abstractly, when it comes to this particular standard, in my very limited experience with kids in this age group, what seems to fascinate them most about irrational numbers is that they are characterized by the fact that their decimal expansions don&#039;t conclude with a recurring finite pattern.  Perhaps the decimal expansion point of view on this standard can be  a draw for some students? The question: &quot;if you add a number whose decimal expansion has a repeating pattern to one that does not, what will happen?&quot; is not straightforward and can generate a lot of good discussion among students.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Lisa&#8217;s question is a very important one, not just for this standard, but more globally in terms of &#8220;how do we engage students in reasoning and develop their ability to justify statements?&#8221;  Back to this particular standard &#8230; Bill&#8217;s schematic explanation, cutting to the heart of the matter, is a good example of how a detailed explanation can look &#8220;starchy&#8221; and obscure the fundamental issue.  Regarding getting middle and high school students to reason abstractly, when it comes to this particular standard, in my very limited experience with kids in this age group, what seems to fascinate them most about irrational numbers is that they are characterized by the fact that their decimal expansions don&#8217;t conclude with a recurring finite pattern.  Perhaps the decimal expansion point of view on this standard can be  a draw for some students? The question: &#8220;if you add a number whose decimal expansion has a repeating pattern to one that does not, what will happen?&#8221; is not straightforward and can generate a lot of good discussion among students.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Jean</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1205</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2012 21:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Primary teachers become very emotional about the placement of the time and money standards. Kindergarten- no standards on time or money; Grade 1-telling and writing time, no money standards; Grade 2-time and money; Grade 3-no money standards. I have shared my view and would like to share your response which I am certain has more credibitlity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Primary teachers become very emotional about the placement of the time and money standards. Kindergarten- no standards on time or money; Grade 1-telling and writing time, no money standards; Grade 2-time and money; Grade 3-no money standards. I have shared my view and would like to share your response which I am certain has more credibitlity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by Gina</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-1203</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2012 15:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am interested in these as well. I teach 7th Grade math in NYC. Rose, If you come up with anything, or across anything helpful, can you share? I will as well. Thank you! =)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am interested in these as well. I teach 7th Grade math in NYC. Rose, If you come up with anything, or across anything helpful, can you share? I will as well. Thank you! =)</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by lmhenry9</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1201</link>
		<dc:creator>lmhenry9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2012 03:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I teach HS Math (specifically Algebra 2). How do you envision how math class would be taught with the Common Core Standards? I think many teachers teach math in a fairly &quot;traditional&quot; way - instructing students on how to do (whatever) and then assign problems to be completed. How is our &quot;mode of business,&quot; if you will, going to change? 

Thanks - Lisa]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I teach HS Math (specifically Algebra 2). How do you envision how math class would be taught with the Common Core Standards? I think many teachers teach math in a fairly &#8220;traditional&#8221; way &#8211; instructing students on how to do (whatever) and then assign problems to be completed. How is our &#8220;mode of business,&#8221; if you will, going to change? </p>
<p>Thanks &#8211; Lisa</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Jessica McCreary</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1196</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica McCreary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 15:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both PARCC and Smarter Balanced indicate a classification system for the content clusters as &quot;major, supporting, and additional.&quot;  Do you know where that comes from, or who did that, and is it in line with the original intent of the standards?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both PARCC and Smarter Balanced indicate a classification system for the content clusters as &#8220;major, supporting, and additional.&#8221;  Do you know where that comes from, or who did that, and is it in line with the original intent of the standards?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Brian Cohen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1195</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 14:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,

Common vocabulary and definitions have been frequently-reoccurring requests.  Many teachers are aware that there are different definitions for some mathematical terms (ex., trapezoid, isosceles, face).  Similarly, there are questions about the appropriate language to introduce/use with students (either for developmental reasons, to better foster conceptual understanding, or to assure alignment with the coming tests).  For example, should 5th grade students know and use the term &quot;ordered pair,&quot; or &quot;coordinate pair,&quot; both, or something else entirely?

This sort of grade-level specific “Suggested List of Mathematical Language” and &quot;Math Glossary&quot; were provided by our State Dept. of Ed. in the past.  However, it doesn&#039;t make sense for 45 states to produce different lists and different definitions for these &quot;common&quot; standards... especially if we will share common assessments.  Is there any plan to provide this sort of supporting documents from groups you work with so that they are &quot;common&quot; for all 45 states?  If not from your level, it seems very necessary that it be &quot;common&quot; at least within the PARCC states and within the SBAC states.  Do they plan to produce such guidance documents? 

Thanks,
Brian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Common vocabulary and definitions have been frequently-reoccurring requests.  Many teachers are aware that there are different definitions for some mathematical terms (ex., trapezoid, isosceles, face).  Similarly, there are questions about the appropriate language to introduce/use with students (either for developmental reasons, to better foster conceptual understanding, or to assure alignment with the coming tests).  For example, should 5th grade students know and use the term &#8220;ordered pair,&#8221; or &#8220;coordinate pair,&#8221; both, or something else entirely?</p>
<p>This sort of grade-level specific “Suggested List of Mathematical Language” and &#8220;Math Glossary&#8221; were provided by our State Dept. of Ed. in the past.  However, it doesn&#8217;t make sense for 45 states to produce different lists and different definitions for these &#8220;common&#8221; standards&#8230; especially if we will share common assessments.  Is there any plan to provide this sort of supporting documents from groups you work with so that they are &#8220;common&#8221; for all 45 states?  If not from your level, it seems very necessary that it be &#8220;common&#8221; at least within the PARCC states and within the SBAC states.  Do they plan to produce such guidance documents? </p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Brian</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1194</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 14:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The previous standard, 1.OA.1, about addition and subtraction word problems, requires the unknown in all positions, whereas this one leaves that open. It seems a natural interpretation to suppose that students can work on problems with the unknown can be in all positions for this standards as well, but that this is not a requirement for assessment purposes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The previous standard, 1.OA.1, about addition and subtraction word problems, requires the unknown in all positions, whereas this one leaves that open. It seems a natural interpretation to suppose that students can work on problems with the unknown can be in all positions for this standards as well, but that this is not a requirement for assessment purposes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1193</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a good question, Lisa. Because of the work of Deborah Ball and others, we have a good idea of what reasoning and proof can look like in elementary grades: students can explain why the sum of two odd numbers is even, for example, using visual representations of odd and even. In high school, we see geometry as a place where students learn to produce mathematical proofs. But Middle school has been a bit of wasteland for reasoning and proof. This standard provides an opportunity for that. One way of presenting Farshid&#039;s argument to students might be to make the explicit connection with earlier understanding of the relationship between addition and subtraction, so that students can see that rational + irrational = rational would be the same as irrational = rational - rational, an impossibility. By the same token, rational times irrational = rational would be the same as irrational = rational/rational, also an impossibility. Then perhaps you could ask &quot;by the way, how do we know that rational plus rational = rational?&quot; This could be an opportunity to see the formula for fraction addition as not just a computational device, but as a fact about the system of rational numbers (that it is closed under addition). 

There&#039;s a danger that assessment will drive all this away, of course, attempting to reduce this standard to some mindless exercises; we have to resist that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good question, Lisa. Because of the work of Deborah Ball and others, we have a good idea of what reasoning and proof can look like in elementary grades: students can explain why the sum of two odd numbers is even, for example, using visual representations of odd and even. In high school, we see geometry as a place where students learn to produce mathematical proofs. But Middle school has been a bit of wasteland for reasoning and proof. This standard provides an opportunity for that. One way of presenting Farshid&#8217;s argument to students might be to make the explicit connection with earlier understanding of the relationship between addition and subtraction, so that students can see that rational + irrational = rational would be the same as irrational = rational &#8211; rational, an impossibility. By the same token, rational times irrational = rational would be the same as irrational = rational/rational, also an impossibility. Then perhaps you could ask &#8220;by the way, how do we know that rational plus rational = rational?&#8221; This could be an opportunity to see the formula for fraction addition as not just a computational device, but as a fact about the system of rational numbers (that it is closed under addition). </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a danger that assessment will drive all this away, of course, attempting to reduce this standard to some mindless exercises; we have to resist that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lisa</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1192</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand all of what you have indicated.  I am not sure how we ask students to verify that they know or understand this.  Is this standard to be addressed at a level where these proofs are reasonable expectations for students? The standard seems to be stated at a more introductory level which is what puzzles me regarding assessment. 

Thank you for your response.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand all of what you have indicated.  I am not sure how we ask students to verify that they know or understand this.  Is this standard to be addressed at a level where these proofs are reasonable expectations for students? The standard seems to be stated at a more introductory level which is what puzzles me regarding assessment. </p>
<p>Thank you for your response.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Farshid Hajir</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1191</link>
		<dc:creator>Farshid Hajir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is my interpretation of what this standard requires students to understand and be able to do:

N-RN.3. Explain why the sum or product of two rational numbers is rational; that the sum of a rational number and an irrational number is irrational; and that the product of a nonzero rational number and an irrational number is irrational.

First, review of definition: a real number x is rational if and only if bx=a for some integer a and some non-zero integer b; in other words, it means x is the ratio a/b of two integers, the denominator being non-zero.

(a) why the sum of two rational numbers is rational: suppose x,y are rational numbers.  That means we can write x=a/b and y=c/d with integers a,b,c,d where b,d are non-zero.  Then x+y = (ad+bc)/(bd). Since ad+bc and bd are integers and bd is  not zero, we&#039;ve shown that x+y is rational, which is what we wanted.

(b) why the sum of a rational number and an irrational number is irrational.  Suppose y is rational, z is irrational and their sum is x=y+z.  Then z=x-y=x + (-y).  Since y is rational, so is -y, so we have expressed the irrational z as the sum of x and a rational number.  By (a), if x were rational, then z would have to be rational too, which it isn&#039;t, so x must be irrational.

(c) why the product of a rational number and an irrational number is irrational.  As in (b), suppose y is a non-zero rational and z is irrational.  Let x=yz be their product.  Since y is not zero, we can write y=a/b with a and b both non-zero.  Then z=(b/a)x is the product of x with a rational number. Since the product of two rational numbers is rational (easy proof), the hypothesis that x is rational would imply that z is irrational, so it must be rejected.  Thus, x must be irrational.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my interpretation of what this standard requires students to understand and be able to do:</p>
<p>N-RN.3. Explain why the sum or product of two rational numbers is rational; that the sum of a rational number and an irrational number is irrational; and that the product of a nonzero rational number and an irrational number is irrational.</p>
<p>First, review of definition: a real number x is rational if and only if bx=a for some integer a and some non-zero integer b; in other words, it means x is the ratio a/b of two integers, the denominator being non-zero.</p>
<p>(a) why the sum of two rational numbers is rational: suppose x,y are rational numbers.  That means we can write x=a/b and y=c/d with integers a,b,c,d where b,d are non-zero.  Then x+y = (ad+bc)/(bd). Since ad+bc and bd are integers and bd is  not zero, we&#8217;ve shown that x+y is rational, which is what we wanted.</p>
<p>(b) why the sum of a rational number and an irrational number is irrational.  Suppose y is rational, z is irrational and their sum is x=y+z.  Then z=x-y=x + (-y).  Since y is rational, so is -y, so we have expressed the irrational z as the sum of x and a rational number.  By (a), if x were rational, then z would have to be rational too, which it isn&#8217;t, so x must be irrational.</p>
<p>(c) why the product of a rational number and an irrational number is irrational.  As in (b), suppose y is a non-zero rational and z is irrational.  Let x=yz be their product.  Since y is not zero, we can write y=a/b with a and b both non-zero.  Then z=(b/a)x is the product of x with a rational number. Since the product of two rational numbers is rational (easy proof), the hypothesis that x is rational would imply that z is irrational, so it must be rejected.  Thus, x must be irrational.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1186</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 04:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Erin, yes, you have the right interpretation. The standard algorithm builds on a solid understanding of composing and decomposing a ten. Although it is not required in Grade 2, it is not forbidden either. Basically, anything that can get students to a solid understanding of the base ten system in general is worthwhile. For example, carrying and borrowing are words we normally use to describe what elementary school teachers might do with their students. But I think it&#039;s fine for teachers to abandon these words in the presence of true conceptual understanding. [Corrected 4/5/2012.]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin, yes, you have the right interpretation. The standard algorithm builds on a solid understanding of composing and decomposing a ten. Although it is not required in Grade 2, it is not forbidden either. Basically, anything that can get students to a solid understanding of the base ten system in general is worthwhile. For example, carrying and borrowing are words we normally use to describe what elementary school teachers might do with their students. But I think it&#8217;s fine for teachers to abandon these words in the presence of true conceptual understanding. [Corrected 4/5/2012.]</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1185</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 04:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Erin basically has it right. In Grade 2 students are dealing with whole number quantities, so word problems for 2.MD.8 would either deal with whole number amounts of dollars or whole number amounts of cents. This doesn&#039;t exclude problems where students have to convert collections of coins and dollars into whole numbers of cents. Indeed, this provides valuable preparation for 4.MD.2.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin basically has it right. In Grade 2 students are dealing with whole number quantities, so word problems for 2.MD.8 would either deal with whole number amounts of dollars or whole number amounts of cents. This doesn&#8217;t exclude problems where students have to convert collections of coins and dollars into whole numbers of cents. Indeed, this provides valuable preparation for 4.MD.2.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Leandra</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1167</link>
		<dc:creator>Leandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 00:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1.OA.2 Solve word problems that call for addition of three whole numbers whose sum is less than or equal to 20, e.g., by using objects, drawings, and equations with a symbol for the unknown number to represent the problem.

Should the unknown be in all positions when dealing with addition of three whole numbers or only in the total?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.OA.2 Solve word problems that call for addition of three whole numbers whose sum is less than or equal to 20, e.g., by using objects, drawings, and equations with a symbol for the unknown number to represent the problem.</p>
<p>Should the unknown be in all positions when dealing with addition of three whole numbers or only in the total?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1164</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 21:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops, guess I should have specified that I can only answer questions about the math standards!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, guess I should have specified that I can only answer questions about the math standards!</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by samantha</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1163</link>
		<dc:creator>samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 20:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1.       Is the difference between the RI.4 standards (through grade 3) and the Language .6 standards that the reading standard ask students to conclude the definition of a word, while the language standards ask students to apply that knowledge?
RI.3.4. Determine the meaning of general academic and domain-specific words and phrases in a text relevant to a grade 3 topic or subject area.
L.3.6. Acquire and use accurately grade-appropriate conversational, general academic, and domain-specific words and phrases, including those that signal spatial and temporal relationships (e.g., After dinner that night we went looking for them).
 
2.       How do RI.4 standards (grades 6-8) and the Language .5 standards differ?  Both ask students to determine word meaning by connotation/denotation and of figurative language. 
RI.8.4. Determine the meaning of words and phrases as they are used in a text, including figurative, connotative, and technical meanings; analyze the impact of specific word choices on meaning and tone, including analogies or allusions to other texts.
L.8.5. Demonstrate understanding of figurative language, word relationships, and nuances in word meanings.
    Interpret figures of speech (e.g. verbal irony, puns) in context.
    Use the relationship between particular words to better understand each of the words.
    Distinguish among the connotations (associations) of words with similar denotations (definitions) (e.g., bullheaded, willful, firm, persistent, resolute).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.       Is the difference between the RI.4 standards (through grade 3) and the Language .6 standards that the reading standard ask students to conclude the definition of a word, while the language standards ask students to apply that knowledge?<br />
RI.3.4. Determine the meaning of general academic and domain-specific words and phrases in a text relevant to a grade 3 topic or subject area.<br />
L.3.6. Acquire and use accurately grade-appropriate conversational, general academic, and domain-specific words and phrases, including those that signal spatial and temporal relationships (e.g., After dinner that night we went looking for them).</p>
<p>2.       How do RI.4 standards (grades 6-8) and the Language .5 standards differ?  Both ask students to determine word meaning by connotation/denotation and of figurative language.<br />
RI.8.4. Determine the meaning of words and phrases as they are used in a text, including figurative, connotative, and technical meanings; analyze the impact of specific word choices on meaning and tone, including analogies or allusions to other texts.<br />
L.8.5. Demonstrate understanding of figurative language, word relationships, and nuances in word meanings.<br />
    Interpret figures of speech (e.g. verbal irony, puns) in context.<br />
    Use the relationship between particular words to better understand each of the words.<br />
    Distinguish among the connotations (associations) of words with similar denotations (definitions) (e.g., bullheaded, willful, firm, persistent, resolute).</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Lisa</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1162</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 18:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am looking for some guidance regarding what the expectation is for N-RN.3. It says to &quot;explain why the sum or product of ... is rational; .....that the sum of a rational number and an irrational number is irrational; ...&quot;  How much is expected at this level? If a student is given an item for this standard will the student response include much more than the definition as a way of explaining?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking for some guidance regarding what the expectation is for N-RN.3. It says to &#8220;explain why the sum or product of &#8230; is rational; &#8230;..that the sum of a rational number and an irrational number is irrational; &#8230;&#8221;  How much is expected at this level? If a student is given an item for this standard will the student response include much more than the definition as a way of explaining?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Erin Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1161</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know if this is right or not, but I&#039;ve been encouraging teachers in 2nd grade to work with just cents or just dollars as an application of whole number addition and subtraction. This could also be a good opportunity to apply the properties of operations and counting on strategies. 

In 4th grade I see the connection to decimal fractions in NF.5-7.  Would you present these measurement problems using the decimal fractions rather than the algorithms for decimal operations? Would the operations performed on these decimal fractions be limited to what the standards have addressed up to this point (addition and subtraction with like denominators and multiplication of a whole number and a fraction)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if this is right or not, but I&#8217;ve been encouraging teachers in 2nd grade to work with just cents or just dollars as an application of whole number addition and subtraction. This could also be a good opportunity to apply the properties of operations and counting on strategies. </p>
<p>In 4th grade I see the connection to decimal fractions in NF.5-7.  Would you present these measurement problems using the decimal fractions rather than the algorithms for decimal operations? Would the operations performed on these decimal fractions be limited to what the standards have addressed up to this point (addition and subtraction with like denominators and multiplication of a whole number and a fraction)?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Erin Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1160</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2.NBT.7  After reading chapter 1 of Liping Ma&#039;s book Knowing and Teaching Elementary Mathematics, I think I see a bit better where this standard is going, but I&#039;m not sure if I clearly understand it yet. According to the progressions document on NBT, the standard algorithm is not required in 2nd grade.  Mastery of the algorithm in 4th grade grows out the repeated reasoning drawn from the work the students do in K-3.  

The inclusion of language such as &quot;composing and decomposing a ten&quot; (hundred, etc.) and the exclusion of language such as &quot;carry a 1&quot; and &quot;borrow&quot; is intentional?  Are the standards intending for teachers to avoid explanations that involve the terms carry and borrow?   I see how composing and decomposing are more conceptually-sound terms; I just want to make sure I’m interpreting the intention of the standards correctly]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2.NBT.7  After reading chapter 1 of Liping Ma&#8217;s book Knowing and Teaching Elementary Mathematics, I think I see a bit better where this standard is going, but I&#8217;m not sure if I clearly understand it yet. According to the progressions document on NBT, the standard algorithm is not required in 2nd grade.  Mastery of the algorithm in 4th grade grows out the repeated reasoning drawn from the work the students do in K-3.  </p>
<p>The inclusion of language such as &#8220;composing and decomposing a ten&#8221; (hundred, etc.) and the exclusion of language such as &#8220;carry a 1&#8243; and &#8220;borrow&#8221; is intentional?  Are the standards intending for teachers to avoid explanations that involve the terms carry and borrow?   I see how composing and decomposing are more conceptually-sound terms; I just want to make sure I’m interpreting the intention of the standards correctly</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Terri Portice</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1159</link>
		<dc:creator>Terri Portice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 14:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is the scope of teaching money in grades 2 and 4 when the standards occur before decimals are introduced?  

2.MD.8. Solve word problems involving dollar bills, quarters, dimes, nickels, and pennies, using $ and ¢ symbols appropriately. Example: If you have 2 dimes and 3 pennies, how many cents do you have?

4.MD.2. Use the four operations to solve word problems involving distances, intervals of time, liquid volumes, masses of objects, and money, including problems involving simple fractions or decimals, and problems that require expressing measurements given in a larger unit in terms of a smaller unit. Represent measurement quantities using diagrams such as number line diagrams that feature a measurement scale.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the scope of teaching money in grades 2 and 4 when the standards occur before decimals are introduced?  </p>
<p>2.MD.8. Solve word problems involving dollar bills, quarters, dimes, nickels, and pennies, using $ and ¢ symbols appropriately. Example: If you have 2 dimes and 3 pennies, how many cents do you have?</p>
<p>4.MD.2. Use the four operations to solve word problems involving distances, intervals of time, liquid volumes, masses of objects, and money, including problems involving simple fractions or decimals, and problems that require expressing measurements given in a larger unit in terms of a smaller unit. Represent measurement quantities using diagrams such as number line diagrams that feature a measurement scale.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spring Common Core Workshop:  May 25 – 27 New Orleans, La by bhennis</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/09/spring-common-core-workshop-may-25-27-new-orleans-la/#comment-1158</link>
		<dc:creator>bhennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonderful, I just submitted my application but was waiting to book flight until I was sure I could get in. Super excited for this opportunity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful, I just submitted my application but was waiting to book flight until I was sure I could get in. Super excited for this opportunity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spring Common Core Workshop:  May 25 – 27 New Orleans, La by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/09/spring-common-core-workshop-may-25-27-new-orleans-la/#comment-1157</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, and we are extending the low registration deadline for 2 weeks, since there has been such demand for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and we are extending the low registration deadline for 2 weeks, since there has been such demand for it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spring Common Core Workshop:  May 25 – 27 New Orleans, La by bhennis</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/09/spring-common-core-workshop-may-25-27-new-orleans-la/#comment-1156</link>
		<dc:creator>bhennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 11:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is space still available for the May workshop?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is space still available for the May workshop?</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1153</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 23:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fluent means &quot;fast and accurate&quot; and mental means &quot;in your head&quot;. A fluent calculation is not necessarily mental; a student could be fluent with a paper and pencil algorithm, for example. And a mental calculation is not necessarily fluent, although I think in all of the instances where this phrase is used in the standards fluency is expected as well. But it might be a valuable exercise for a student to mentally add 2 two-digit numbers, even if the calculus is not very fast.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fluent means &#8220;fast and accurate&#8221; and mental means &#8220;in your head&#8221;. A fluent calculation is not necessarily mental; a student could be fluent with a paper and pencil algorithm, for example. And a mental calculation is not necessarily fluent, although I think in all of the instances where this phrase is used in the standards fluency is expected as well. But it might be a valuable exercise for a student to mentally add 2 two-digit numbers, even if the calculus is not very fast.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1152</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 23:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geometry K-6 and the Measurement part of MD should be out by the end of this month, along with high school Statistics and Probability. All of the progressions will be out in draft form by the end of the Summer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geometry K-6 and the Measurement part of MD should be out by the end of this month, along with high school Statistics and Probability. All of the progressions will be out in draft form by the end of the Summer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Beth</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1151</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you explain the difference between &quot;mentally add and subtract&quot; and &quot;fluently add and subtract&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you explain the difference between &#8220;mentally add and subtract&#8221; and &#8220;fluently add and subtract&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spring Common Core Workshop:  May 25 – 27 New Orleans, La by Ellen Whitesides</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/09/spring-common-core-workshop-may-25-27-new-orleans-la/#comment-1148</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen Whitesides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 19:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the end of the week we should have hotel options posted on the website.  Best to wait for that for the group rate! Thanks for the question Nicki.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the end of the week we should have hotel options posted on the website.  Best to wait for that for the group rate! Thanks for the question Nicki.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spring Common Core Workshop:  May 25 – 27 New Orleans, La by Nicki Klatzko</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/09/spring-common-core-workshop-may-25-27-new-orleans-la/#comment-1147</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicki Klatzko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 19:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When will you know about hotels for this conference? Should we make our own arrangements?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will you know about hotels for this conference? Should we make our own arrangements?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Illustrative Mathematics redesign and milestones by Erin Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/30/illustrative-mathematics-redesign-and-milestones/#comment-1146</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 19:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you!  I&#039;ll collect my thoughts and post my questions under that post.  I appreciate your help.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you!  I&#8217;ll collect my thoughts and post my questions under that post.  I appreciate your help.</p>
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		<title>Comment on General questions about the Mathematics standards by Eric</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/04/02/general-questions-about-the-standards/#comment-1145</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 18:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my office we have relied a lot on the Progressions Documents to help clarify some confusion with the CCSS.  However, many of them are still in draft form, and some are still yet to be released in draft form.  When can we expect the Progressions for Geometry, the other part of Measurement and Data, and other Progressions to be released and/or finalized?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my office we have relied a lot on the Progressions Documents to help clarify some confusion with the CCSS.  However, many of them are still in draft form, and some are still yet to be released in draft form.  When can we expect the Progressions for Geometry, the other part of Measurement and Data, and other Progressions to be released and/or finalized?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Illustrative Mathematics redesign and milestones by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/30/illustrative-mathematics-redesign-and-milestones/#comment-1143</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 18:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Erin, the next generation of the site will have all sorts of discussion capabilities, but that&#039;s a way off, so for now I&#039;ve created a sticky post on this blog to collect general questions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin, the next generation of the site will have all sorts of discussion capabilities, but that&#8217;s a way off, so for now I&#8217;ve created a sticky post on this blog to collect general questions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Illustrative Mathematics redesign and milestones by Erin Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/30/illustrative-mathematics-redesign-and-milestones/#comment-1142</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 18:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for all the work you have put into this site.  It&#039;s a great resource for teachers!  I see how you can comment/rate a task, but I was wondering if there was a place where you could ask questions about the language of the standards themselves?  I have been getting some questions from teachers, and I would like to have more than my opinion to give them in response.  I just wasn&#039;t sure where I should post that type of question.  Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for all the work you have put into this site.  It&#8217;s a great resource for teachers!  I see how you can comment/rate a task, but I was wondering if there was a place where you could ask questions about the language of the standards themselves?  I have been getting some questions from teachers, and I would like to have more than my opinion to give them in response.  I just wasn&#8217;t sure where I should post that type of question.  Thank you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Cathy Kessel</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-1138</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Kessel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 01:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another view of standards-based instruction: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bangordailynews.com/2012/03/29/news/midcoast/maine-teachers-describe-how-standards-based-education-really-works/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in the Bangor Daily News&lt;/a&gt;. The instructional organization described sounds a lot to me like what used to be called IPI (Individually Prescribed Instruction).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another view of standards-based instruction: <a href="http://bangordailynews.com/2012/03/29/news/midcoast/maine-teachers-describe-how-standards-based-education-really-works/" rel="nofollow">in the Bangor Daily News</a>. The instructional organization described sounds a lot to me like what used to be called IPI (Individually Prescribed Instruction).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Illustrative Mathematics redesign and milestones by Robert Springer</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/30/illustrative-mathematics-redesign-and-milestones/#comment-1125</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Springer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 00:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since there is a yet no textbook which can be used to both teach Common-Core Math as well as provide problems for the student, the illustrative tasks will serve for both, making it invaluable!

As you know, I am preparing an example curriculum for the lower elementary grades (K - 3) which I intend to make public on my website (amphimath.com).  After stating each concept that an instructor should teach, I plan to provide a brief illustration or a link to one. I plan to provide a link to nearly every illustration you have posted for these grades.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since there is a yet no textbook which can be used to both teach Common-Core Math as well as provide problems for the student, the illustrative tasks will serve for both, making it invaluable!</p>
<p>As you know, I am preparing an example curriculum for the lower elementary grades (K &#8211; 3) which I intend to make public on my website (amphimath.com).  After stating each concept that an instructor should teach, I plan to provide a brief illustration or a link to one. I plan to provide a link to nearly every illustration you have posted for these grades.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Illustrative Mathematics redesign and milestones by Cathy Brown</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/30/illustrative-mathematics-redesign-and-milestones/#comment-1124</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What an awesome job you all have done in creating this outstanding resource!  THANK YOU SO MUCH!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an awesome job you all have done in creating this outstanding resource!  THANK YOU SO MUCH!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Illustrative Mathematics redesign and milestones by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/30/illustrative-mathematics-redesign-and-milestones/#comment-1123</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, you&#039;ve probably already figured this out, but we print them off by taking screen shots. (Embarrassing to admit that.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, you&#8217;ve probably already figured this out, but we print them off by taking screen shots. (Embarrassing to admit that.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Illustrative Mathematics redesign and milestones by Kathy Dornhecker</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/30/illustrative-mathematics-redesign-and-milestones/#comment-1121</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy Dornhecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like it. It seems easier to navigate. Will be nice when the items can be printed off. 
Sincerely,
Kathy Dornhecker
Prof. Development Coordinator
ESD 113
Olympia, WA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it. It seems easier to navigate. Will be nice when the items can be printed off.<br />
Sincerely,<br />
Kathy Dornhecker<br />
Prof. Development Coordinator<br />
ESD 113<br />
Olympia, WA</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Number and Operations in Base Ten by Dianne</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/06/draft-of-progression-on-number-and-operations-in-base-ten/#comment-1115</link>
		<dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello All,
A recent question was posed to me about estimation/approximation/rounding. In our state (NY) guidance has offered the concept that estimation happens at the beginning of a problem (making the numbers easier to use) and rounding is something that happens at the end after calculations are completed (this is a summation of a more thorough description). A teacher recently asked about where &quot;approximation&quot; fits into all of that. Can someone give me an explanation/description/useful response to this?
Thank you!
Dianne]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello All,<br />
A recent question was posed to me about estimation/approximation/rounding. In our state (NY) guidance has offered the concept that estimation happens at the beginning of a problem (making the numbers easier to use) and rounding is something that happens at the end after calculations are completed (this is a summation of a more thorough description). A teacher recently asked about where &#8220;approximation&#8221; fits into all of that. Can someone give me an explanation/description/useful response to this?<br />
Thank you!<br />
Dianne</p>
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		<title>Comment on Complete draft progression for CC and OA by Dianne Gizowski</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/05/29/complete-draft-progression-for-cc-and-oa/#comment-1114</link>
		<dc:creator>Dianne Gizowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello,
As a group of us was reading through this progression, it was noted that on the bottom of page 29, in the last sentence, it says, &quot;but the number of steps should be no more than three and involve only easy and medium difficulty addition and subtraction problems.&quot; Since 4th grade students are supposed to solve multi-step problems with all four operations, is there some similar guidance to follow if you are including multi-step problems with multiplication and division?
Thanks for any help!
Dianne]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
As a group of us was reading through this progression, it was noted that on the bottom of page 29, in the last sentence, it says, &#8220;but the number of steps should be no more than three and involve only easy and medium difficulty addition and subtraction problems.&#8221; Since 4th grade students are supposed to solve multi-step problems with all four operations, is there some similar guidance to follow if you are including multi-step problems with multiplication and division?<br />
Thanks for any help!<br />
Dianne</p>
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		<title>Comment on The data part of the Measurement and Data Progression by Shannon Hart</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/06/20/the-data-part-of-the-measurement-and-data-progression/#comment-1113</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HI Bill,

Is cups, pints, quarts, and gallons included in 4MD1 and 5MD1?

Shannon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Bill,</p>
<p>Is cups, pints, quarts, and gallons included in 4MD1 and 5MD1?</p>
<p>Shannon</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spring Common Core Workshop:  May 25 – 27 New Orleans, La by Ellen Whitesides</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/09/spring-common-core-workshop-may-25-27-new-orleans-la/#comment-1102</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen Whitesides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As of now, we do not have the ability to make this happen Lane, but it is something we are looking to do in the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As of now, we do not have the ability to make this happen Lane, but it is something we are looking to do in the future.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tools by P. Dallon</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/tools/#comment-1101</link>
		<dc:creator>P. Dallon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Connected Mathematics Project (CMP2) is NSF funded and is a wonderful source of mathematics tasks. I have used this for years and am relieved I don&#039;t need to buy  new books to meet the standards! The 8 mathematical practices are built in as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Connected Mathematics Project (CMP2) is NSF funded and is a wonderful source of mathematics tasks. I have used this for years and am relieved I don&#8217;t need to buy  new books to meet the standards! The 8 mathematical practices are built in as well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-1096</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alexei, this is really a glitch in the standards. I agree that &quot;rectangle with unit fraction side lengths&quot; is what is meant. If you look on page 12 you&#039;ll see that this is indicted by the diagram in the margin below where 5.NF.4b.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexei, this is really a glitch in the standards. I agree that &#8220;rectangle with unit fraction side lengths&#8221; is what is meant. If you look on page 12 you&#8217;ll see that this is indicted by the diagram in the margin below where 5.NF.4b.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Alexei Kassymov</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-1094</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexei Kassymov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Bill,
The standard in question is 5.NF.4b, in particular, the part “tiling it with unit squares of the appropriate unit fraction side lengths”. First, the term “unit square” has an important meaning “1 by 1 square”. For example, it is used in this sense in this document in the description of 4.NF.7 Was it the intention to use “unit square” also in the sense “uniform building blocks”. Additionally, here and other places (AZ and UT takes on the standards) “unit squares” are interpreted as rectangles with unit fraction side lengths, the denominators corresponding to the denominators of the side lengths of the original rectangle.
Personally, I feel that “unit square” should be reserved for “1 x 1” square, and the “unit square” in the standard should be understood as “rectangle with unit fraction sides lengths”. For example, 1/2 x 1/3 can be seen as one rectangle out of 6 and does not have to be seen as six 1/6 by 1/6 squares out of 36. I would appreciate the authors’ take here.
Thank you,
Alexei]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,<br />
The standard in question is 5.NF.4b, in particular, the part “tiling it with unit squares of the appropriate unit fraction side lengths”. First, the term “unit square” has an important meaning “1 by 1 square”. For example, it is used in this sense in this document in the description of 4.NF.7 Was it the intention to use “unit square” also in the sense “uniform building blocks”. Additionally, here and other places (AZ and UT takes on the standards) “unit squares” are interpreted as rectangles with unit fraction side lengths, the denominators corresponding to the denominators of the side lengths of the original rectangle.<br />
Personally, I feel that “unit square” should be reserved for “1 x 1” square, and the “unit square” in the standard should be understood as “rectangle with unit fraction sides lengths”. For example, 1/2 x 1/3 can be seen as one rectangle out of 6 and does not have to be seen as six 1/6 by 1/6 squares out of 36. I would appreciate the authors’ take here.<br />
Thank you,<br />
Alexei</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1092</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The standard N-RN.2, Rewrite expressions involving radicals and rational exponents using the properties of exponents, could support some work along these lines. But the standards overall try to get away from demanding that students &quot;simplify&quot; things. For example, they don&#039;t expect students to find the least common denominator when adding fractions, or to reduce fractions to lowest terms. When thinking about radicals, it&#039;s not at all obvious that 3 \sqrt{3} is simpler than \sqrt{27}, and the latter form is more useful for some purposes. For example, you can see that the number is slightly bigger than 5 much more easily from this form.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The standard N-RN.2, Rewrite expressions involving radicals and rational exponents using the properties of exponents, could support some work along these lines. But the standards overall try to get away from demanding that students &#8220;simplify&#8221; things. For example, they don&#8217;t expect students to find the least common denominator when adding fractions, or to reduce fractions to lowest terms. When thinking about radicals, it&#8217;s not at all obvious that 3 \sqrt{3} is simpler than \sqrt{27}, and the latter form is more useful for some purposes. For example, you can see that the number is slightly bigger than 5 much more easily from this form.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1091</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I could see doing it either way, but I assume the design in these documents is to allow time for extended modeling tasks that take account of the entire modeling cycle, as described in the original standards document at corestandards.org.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could see doing it either way, but I assume the design in these documents is to allow time for extended modeling tasks that take account of the entire modeling cycle, as described in the original standards document at corestandards.org.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1090</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Neither PARCC nor SBAC has issued any guidelines on course boundaries in high school, but I assume they will have to do that as they develop their assessments. You are quite right that it will have an effect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither PARCC nor SBAC has issued any guidelines on course boundaries in high school, but I assume they will have to do that as they develop their assessments. You are quite right that it will have an effect.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1089</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Mike, that&#039;s a modeling star, indicating a standard that connects with modeling in high school. See the standards document at corestandards.org]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mike, that&#8217;s a modeling star, indicating a standard that connects with modeling in high school. See the standards document at corestandards.org</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Mike Busch</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1088</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Busch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have noticed the * next CCSS Domain and Standard Listing on the Scope and Sequence Charts. What is the meaning of the * symbol?  Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have noticed the * next CCSS Domain and Standard Listing on the Scope and Sequence Charts. What is the meaning of the * symbol?  Thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Samantha Rose</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1082</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am just curious where PARCC and the assessment piece comes into play here.  I guess a big question I have is will PARCC being including exponential function on the 10th grade assessment, if so won&#039;t we have to include this unit in Algebra 1? Any thoughts on this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just curious where PARCC and the assessment piece comes into play here.  I guess a big question I have is will PARCC being including exponential function on the 10th grade assessment, if so won&#8217;t we have to include this unit in Algebra 1? Any thoughts on this?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Judith</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1078</link>
		<dc:creator>Judith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you so much for your ongoing effort in creating ways to help us organize our transition to the Common Core Standards.  My only question regarding the Scope and Sequence timeline is the separation of the Modeling Units (for example 4 days following 45 days A1 - A3 in the traditional Algebra 1 sequence).  Perhaps I am misunderstanding the term &quot;modeling&quot; but I thought it would be preferable to incorporate activities and tasks (modeling?) as introductory and as reinforcement elements throughout each unit rather than set time aside after some units have been covered?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for your ongoing effort in creating ways to help us organize our transition to the Common Core Standards.  My only question regarding the Scope and Sequence timeline is the separation of the Modeling Units (for example 4 days following 45 days A1 &#8211; A3 in the traditional Algebra 1 sequence).  Perhaps I am misunderstanding the term &#8220;modeling&#8221; but I thought it would be preferable to incorporate activities and tasks (modeling?) as introductory and as reinforcement elements throughout each unit rather than set time aside after some units have been covered?</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by John Gregg</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/about/#comment-1074</link>
		<dc:creator>John Gregg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 02:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good insight on the decimal fractions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good insight on the decimal fractions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression for Statistics and Probability, Grades 6–8 by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/12/26/progression-for-statistics-and-probability-grades-6-8/#comment-1068</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 20:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for pointing out the missing link ... it&#039;s there now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing out the missing link &#8230; it&#8217;s there now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression for Statistics and Probability, Grades 6–8 by Patricia Posluszny</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/12/26/progression-for-statistics-and-probability-grades-6-8/#comment-1066</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia Posluszny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, thank you SO MUCH for these progressions documents!!!  I and my colleagues are finding them tremendously helpful in thinking about how to plan our Common Core units.

I am wondering why the link to this particular progressions document has not been posted on the progressons webpage?  I have downloaded this file and shared it with colleagues - but - I have it only because I was fortuante enough to have wandered onto this page.

Thank you!
Patricia]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, thank you SO MUCH for these progressions documents!!!  I and my colleagues are finding them tremendously helpful in thinking about how to plan our Common Core units.</p>
<p>I am wondering why the link to this particular progressions document has not been posted on the progressons webpage?  I have downloaded this file and shared it with colleagues &#8211; but &#8211; I have it only because I was fortuante enough to have wandered onto this page.</p>
<p>Thank you!<br />
Patricia</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by GJordan</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1065</link>
		<dc:creator>GJordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I may have overlooked the topic, is there a learning standard for simplifying radicals, I think in a traditional pathway it would be covered in Algebra 1 or Pre-Algebra (grade  8), or even perhaps Geometry. However, I don&#039;t see it anywhere and shall I assume it is just a skill we&#039;re teaching to our own standard?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may have overlooked the topic, is there a learning standard for simplifying radicals, I think in a traditional pathway it would be covered in Algebra 1 or Pre-Algebra (grade  8), or even perhaps Geometry. However, I don&#8217;t see it anywhere and shall I assume it is just a skill we&#8217;re teaching to our own standard?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by GJordan</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1064</link>
		<dc:creator>GJordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And that is the rub for me, Appendix A (PARCC) has &quot;Application of Probability&quot; as Unit 6 of Geometry? Is this truly intentional? I&#039;ve seen NYS may give Scope and Sequence in summer 2012, is this related to the above effort?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that is the rub for me, Appendix A (PARCC) has &#8220;Application of Probability&#8221; as Unit 6 of Geometry? Is this truly intentional? I&#8217;ve seen NYS may give Scope and Sequence in summer 2012, is this related to the above effort?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Complete draft progression for CC and OA by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/05/29/complete-draft-progression-for-cc-and-oa/#comment-1063</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, good catch, thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, good catch, thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by callahanpatrick</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1062</link>
		<dc:creator>callahanpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 21:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,

Thanks for the clarification. I was thinking more in terms of what have been called &quot;baby exponentials&quot;.  For example a doubling sequence like 2^n (for whole number n) as opposed to analyzing exponentials as continuous functions like 2^x (for x real).  These seem like a good and natural source of examples to contrast with linear and polynomial relationships.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Thanks for the clarification. I was thinking more in terms of what have been called &#8220;baby exponentials&#8221;.  For example a doubling sequence like 2^n (for whole number n) as opposed to analyzing exponentials as continuous functions like 2^x (for x real).  These seem like a good and natural source of examples to contrast with linear and polynomial relationships.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Complete draft progression for CC and OA by 2nd grade teacher</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/05/29/complete-draft-progression-for-cc-and-oa/#comment-1061</link>
		<dc:creator>2nd grade teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 20:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pg. 21 of this progression document -- in the left-hand column says 
&quot;(by the end of grade 2, students know all sums of two-digit numbers from memory)&quot;
 this does not correspond correctly to 2.OA.2]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pg. 21 of this progression document &#8212; in the left-hand column says<br />
&#8220;(by the end of grade 2, students know all sums of two-digit numbers from memory)&#8221;<br />
 this does not correspond correctly to 2.OA.2</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1060</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 20:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree exponential functions could be split between Algebra 1 and Algebra 2 as Patrick suggests. However, they don&#039;t occur in the Grade 8 standards. Students see integer exponents there, but not functions where the variable is in the exponent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree exponential functions could be split between Algebra 1 and Algebra 2 as Patrick suggests. However, they don&#8217;t occur in the Grade 8 standards. Students see integer exponents there, but not functions where the variable is in the exponent.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by callahanpatrick</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1059</link>
		<dc:creator>callahanpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The main difference between this scope and sequence and the Appendix A is that we wanted to organize every HS standard into coherent units (see comments above) that could be sequenced in either a Traditional or Integrated way. 
This requires making some estimates about the number of days (which is included in the above documents) to fit them into courses. We wanted to avoid the &quot;mile wide inch deep&quot; syndrome and allow sufficient time for depth.   If you compare the K-8 with the HS there are significantly more HS standards, so the units are an approach to get at the critical ideas.

An important point to make about moving exponentials to Algebra 2 is to recall that student have seen them in middle school (in particular Grade 8 Expressions and Equations).  So there is every expectation that 9th grade students will compare and analyze situations that involve linear, polynomial, and exponential behavior (e.g. 2x versus x^2 versus 2^x) but the more rigorous work with exponential equations and logarithms is done in Algebra 2.

Also note that many standards are repeated throughout the scope and sequence.  So when we cross out part of a standard the intent is to provide focus early on, but that standard will occur later in full (nothing is crossed out in the end).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main difference between this scope and sequence and the Appendix A is that we wanted to organize every HS standard into coherent units (see comments above) that could be sequenced in either a Traditional or Integrated way.<br />
This requires making some estimates about the number of days (which is included in the above documents) to fit them into courses. We wanted to avoid the &#8220;mile wide inch deep&#8221; syndrome and allow sufficient time for depth.   If you compare the K-8 with the HS there are significantly more HS standards, so the units are an approach to get at the critical ideas.</p>
<p>An important point to make about moving exponentials to Algebra 2 is to recall that student have seen them in middle school (in particular Grade 8 Expressions and Equations).  So there is every expectation that 9th grade students will compare and analyze situations that involve linear, polynomial, and exponential behavior (e.g. 2x versus x^2 versus 2^x) but the more rigorous work with exponential equations and logarithms is done in Algebra 2.</p>
<p>Also note that many standards are repeated throughout the scope and sequence.  So when we cross out part of a standard the intent is to provide focus early on, but that standard will occur later in full (nothing is crossed out in the end).</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1058</link>
		<dc:creator>callahanpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the worries was that the modeling standards would get lost or neglected.  Our approach was to create specific Modeling Units that would foster applying mathematical ideas from across other units.  This is not to say there should not be plenty of modeling within the other units (e.g. the first algebra unit is &quot;Modeling with Functions&quot;), rather we thought it would be good to have additional opportunities for students to focus on modeling projects or activities that did not lend themselves to &quot;we are doing a unit on quadratic functions, so I guess we are supposed to be modeling with quadratics&quot; type student responses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the worries was that the modeling standards would get lost or neglected.  Our approach was to create specific Modeling Units that would foster applying mathematical ideas from across other units.  This is not to say there should not be plenty of modeling within the other units (e.g. the first algebra unit is &#8220;Modeling with Functions&#8221;), rather we thought it would be good to have additional opportunities for students to focus on modeling projects or activities that did not lend themselves to &#8220;we are doing a unit on quadratic functions, so I guess we are supposed to be modeling with quadratics&#8221; type student responses.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by callahanpatrick</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1057</link>
		<dc:creator>callahanpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few quick comments about these High School Scope and Sequences.  The design challenge was to first organize all of the CCSS standards into &quot;coherent units&quot; of about 2-4 weeks duration. (Phil Daro has said that the &quot;unit&quot; is the optimal grain size for organizing mathematics for learning).  Page iv of the &quot;High School Units All&quot;  lists them out.  There is an Algebra sequence of 10 units that weaves together all the Number and Quantity, Algebra, and Functions standards.  They key point here is that these exact same units can be organized into either a Traditional or Integrated sequence.  This was done to facilitate collaboration at the unit level without needing to distinguish between traditional and integrated.  I do not believe that there is one &quot;correct&quot; or &quot;optimal&quot; sequencing, but we wanted to put out an example that we felt supported the design and spirit of the CCSS.  Many states and organizations are dividing the standards up into grade level or courses.  These Scope and Sequence documents are to support and encourage people thinking and designing at the unit level.

Many decisions were needed to organize the units into Traditional and Integrated sequences.  Those can be compared on pages ii and iii of the &quot;High School Units&quot; document.  Since this post is getting lengthy I will respond to some of the rational behind specific choices in other posts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few quick comments about these High School Scope and Sequences.  The design challenge was to first organize all of the CCSS standards into &#8220;coherent units&#8221; of about 2-4 weeks duration. (Phil Daro has said that the &#8220;unit&#8221; is the optimal grain size for organizing mathematics for learning).  Page iv of the &#8220;High School Units All&#8221;  lists them out.  There is an Algebra sequence of 10 units that weaves together all the Number and Quantity, Algebra, and Functions standards.  They key point here is that these exact same units can be organized into either a Traditional or Integrated sequence.  This was done to facilitate collaboration at the unit level without needing to distinguish between traditional and integrated.  I do not believe that there is one &#8220;correct&#8221; or &#8220;optimal&#8221; sequencing, but we wanted to put out an example that we felt supported the design and spirit of the CCSS.  Many states and organizations are dividing the standards up into grade level or courses.  These Scope and Sequence documents are to support and encourage people thinking and designing at the unit level.</p>
<p>Many decisions were needed to organize the units into Traditional and Integrated sequences.  Those can be compared on pages ii and iii of the &#8220;High School Units&#8221; document.  Since this post is getting lengthy I will respond to some of the rational behind specific choices in other posts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Patrick</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1056</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once I feel like I have a good hold on things, additional resources such as this come out and completely knock me back 2 steps (or 10).  I am not frustrated by the supporting documents (thank you for your hard work on these).  I am frustrated that there are several discrepencies between this document and the Appendix A.  I have focused most of my time at this point reviewing the differences in the Algebra I materials.  I have noted several areas where this document lists standards that do not appear in the Appendix A Traditional Model.  They are N-CN.1, 2, 7, A-SSE.4, F-LE.4, F-TF.1,2,5,8, F-IF.7c, A-APR.2,3,4,6, A-REI.2.  Additionally, the whole section on statistics has been removed according to this document.

Although I agree with some of the changes (and have concerns about others), I am more concerned about the work that we are doing with districts who are working on developing their scope and sequences for all grades.  I am simply concerned about where to move next.  I want to guide our teachers in our district in the right direction.  If anyone can be of service, I would greatly appreciate it.

As mentioned above, is there any further discussion of completing a curricular priorities document that breaks high school courses down seperately?  New York State has released their version, but in Algebra I, for example, all of the standards are listed as either 70% or 20%.  There are no 10% standards.  The URL to this document is http://engageny.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/nys-math-emphases-k-hs.pdf.  I have a hard time believing that what is the emphasis in one course should automatically be considered an emphasis in the next.

Dr. McCallum and team... thank you again for all of your work around the shift to the Common Core.  Your materials are invaluable and we have been basing most of our work around what you are producing.  We can&#039;t thank you enough.  If you have any ideas/suggestions to help lead this work in the right direction, we would appreciate the feedback!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once I feel like I have a good hold on things, additional resources such as this come out and completely knock me back 2 steps (or 10).  I am not frustrated by the supporting documents (thank you for your hard work on these).  I am frustrated that there are several discrepencies between this document and the Appendix A.  I have focused most of my time at this point reviewing the differences in the Algebra I materials.  I have noted several areas where this document lists standards that do not appear in the Appendix A Traditional Model.  They are N-CN.1, 2, 7, A-SSE.4, F-LE.4, F-TF.1,2,5,8, F-IF.7c, A-APR.2,3,4,6, A-REI.2.  Additionally, the whole section on statistics has been removed according to this document.</p>
<p>Although I agree with some of the changes (and have concerns about others), I am more concerned about the work that we are doing with districts who are working on developing their scope and sequences for all grades.  I am simply concerned about where to move next.  I want to guide our teachers in our district in the right direction.  If anyone can be of service, I would greatly appreciate it.</p>
<p>As mentioned above, is there any further discussion of completing a curricular priorities document that breaks high school courses down seperately?  New York State has released their version, but in Algebra I, for example, all of the standards are listed as either 70% or 20%.  There are no 10% standards.  The URL to this document is <a href="http://engageny.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/nys-math-emphases-k-hs.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://engageny.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/nys-math-emphases-k-hs.pdf</a>.  I have a hard time believing that what is the emphasis in one course should automatically be considered an emphasis in the next.</p>
<p>Dr. McCallum and team&#8230; thank you again for all of your work around the shift to the Common Core.  Your materials are invaluable and we have been basing most of our work around what you are producing.  We can&#8217;t thank you enough.  If you have any ideas/suggestions to help lead this work in the right direction, we would appreciate the feedback!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by doubtful</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1054</link>
		<dc:creator>doubtful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A Concern.
In K-8 the CCSS for Math did such a good job of addressing the critical areas of focus for each course.  In High School that is not done in the CCSS for Math document. Instead it is noted on page 84 that additional pathways for the courses will be available.  I suppose that Appendix A is one such available pathway.  I believe that the Appendix A document is very helpful because it again focuses on the critical areas for each course.  Although, I do not believe that it is intended as a scope and sequence it seems to be a clear designation of topics/standards that are important within the course.  I would like to know the reasoning behind the movement of many of the exponential topics from Algebra 1 to Algebra 2 and why probability is moved from Geometry to Algebra 2.  Basically, I want to be convinced.  Why the difference between this Scope and Sequence offered here and the Appendix A?  The concern for me is not the movement within a course but between them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Concern.<br />
In K-8 the CCSS for Math did such a good job of addressing the critical areas of focus for each course.  In High School that is not done in the CCSS for Math document. Instead it is noted on page 84 that additional pathways for the courses will be available.  I suppose that Appendix A is one such available pathway.  I believe that the Appendix A document is very helpful because it again focuses on the critical areas for each course.  Although, I do not believe that it is intended as a scope and sequence it seems to be a clear designation of topics/standards that are important within the course.  I would like to know the reasoning behind the movement of many of the exponential topics from Algebra 1 to Algebra 2 and why probability is moved from Geometry to Algebra 2.  Basically, I want to be convinced.  Why the difference between this Scope and Sequence offered here and the Appendix A?  The concern for me is not the movement within a course but between them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by footmassage</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1053</link>
		<dc:creator>footmassage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed.  The absence of exponential functions is a significant departure from Appendix A as well as the spirit of their inclusion.  The standards emphasize the need to compare and contrast linear functions with other functions to more fully develop the peculiarities of each function.  In addition, the order of Algebra 2 with polynomial and rational expressions be placed after exponentials, trigonometric, and &quot;functions&quot; situates them after modeling and limits, a bit, the development that could go on in the functions unit.  Are this in draft form? Who can we seek more information from on the decisions being made here, etc.?  Thank you for posting them here!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  The absence of exponential functions is a significant departure from Appendix A as well as the spirit of their inclusion.  The standards emphasize the need to compare and contrast linear functions with other functions to more fully develop the peculiarities of each function.  In addition, the order of Algebra 2 with polynomial and rational expressions be placed after exponentials, trigonometric, and &#8220;functions&#8221; situates them after modeling and limits, a bit, the development that could go on in the functions unit.  Are this in draft form? Who can we seek more information from on the decisions being made here, etc.?  Thank you for posting them here!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Examples of structure in the content standards by Illustrative Mathematics and Common Core Tools &#171; Common Core Essentials</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/07/06/examples-of-structure-in-the-content-standards/#comment-1050</link>
		<dc:creator>Illustrative Mathematics and Common Core Tools &#171; Common Core Essentials</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 10:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/11/18/visual-map-of-the-content-standards/#comment-1049</link>
		<dc:creator>Illustrative Mathematics and Common Core Tools &#171; Common Core Essentials</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 10:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Illustrative Mathematics and Common Core Tools &#171; Common Core Essentials</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 10:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Illustrative Mathematics and Common Core Tools &#171; Common Core Essentials</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-1047</link>
		<dc:creator>Illustrative Mathematics and Common Core Tools &#171; Common Core Essentials</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 10:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on New features on the Illustrative Mathematics website by Liz Yockey</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/29/new-features-on-the-illustrative-mathematics-website/#comment-1043</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz Yockey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 20:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love commenting and rating! Two questions:

Will there be a way to search for highly rated tasks and/or will they be order that way? 

Is there a way to receive an email notification if someone else comments on the same task I commented on?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love commenting and rating! Two questions:</p>
<p>Will there be a way to search for highly rated tasks and/or will they be order that way? </p>
<p>Is there a way to receive an email notification if someone else comments on the same task I commented on?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by mathymcmatherson</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1042</link>
		<dc:creator>mathymcmatherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 20:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Debbie - Have you seen the Illustrative Mathematics project? http://illustrativemathematics.org/standards/hs

There are already some tasks designed for modeling and I think some tasks could be reworked into projects with a little fine tuning. Maybe it&#039;s a start?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie &#8211; Have you seen the Illustrative Mathematics project? <a href="http://illustrativemathematics.org/standards/hs" rel="nofollow">http://illustrativemathematics.org/standards/hs</a></p>
<p>There are already some tasks designed for modeling and I think some tasks could be reworked into projects with a little fine tuning. Maybe it&#8217;s a start?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by KWegs</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1041</link>
		<dc:creator>KWegs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking at it again......perhaps some of the missing standards will be inlcuded in the modeling units.......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at it again&#8230;&#8230;perhaps some of the missing standards will be inlcuded in the modeling units&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by KWegs</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1040</link>
		<dc:creator>KWegs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While this arragement is nice, it doesn&#039;t match Appendix A from the CCSS.  I counted 14 standards in the Appendix A version of Alg II that are missing from this version of Alg II.  As previously stated, some Appendix A Alg I standards have been shifted to Alg II, including exponential functions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While this arragement is nice, it doesn&#8217;t match Appendix A from the CCSS.  I counted 14 standards in the Appendix A version of Alg II that are missing from this version of Alg II.  As previously stated, some Appendix A Alg I standards have been shifted to Alg II, including exponential functions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by bmenzie</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1037</link>
		<dc:creator>bmenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In New York State, the probability unit has been moved into the Geometry course.  Figure that one out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In New York State, the probability unit has been moved into the Geometry course.  Figure that one out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by Lisa Tilmon</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1034</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Tilmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The glaring difference I spy between this and the Appendix A released by CCSS is the location of exponential functions...Algebra 2 or Algebra1...which should it be?!?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The glaring difference I spy between this and the Appendix A released by CCSS is the location of exponential functions&#8230;Algebra 2 or Algebra1&#8230;which should it be?!?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arranging the high school standards into courses by debbieqd</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/16/arranging-the-high-school-standards-into-courses/#comment-1032</link>
		<dc:creator>debbieqd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is pretty awesome material, especially the timelines and the commentaries in the course outlines.  It occurs to me that many teachers may need actual lesson plans to get started as the course descriptions will not track with current textbooks.  Additionally, some teachers will have difficulty with the higher order learning expectations (analysis, evaluation, creating -- connecting concepts and big ideas) as they have been entrenched for years teaching content knowledge with only some minor application.

Hopefully, someone will write a CCSS &quot;modeling&quot; handbook for teachers, as well as a book/website with suggested &quot;projects&quot; aimed directly at meeting the standards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pretty awesome material, especially the timelines and the commentaries in the course outlines.  It occurs to me that many teachers may need actual lesson plans to get started as the course descriptions will not track with current textbooks.  Additionally, some teachers will have difficulty with the higher order learning expectations (analysis, evaluation, creating &#8212; connecting concepts and big ideas) as they have been entrenched for years teaching content knowledge with only some minor application.</p>
<p>Hopefully, someone will write a CCSS &#8220;modeling&#8221; handbook for teachers, as well as a book/website with suggested &#8220;projects&#8221; aimed directly at meeting the standards.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Nancy</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-1025</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 13:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have tried what Bill recommends:  Nancy, I don’t know of such a chart, but I have used the Illustrative Mathematics project display of the standards to navigate to explore them with teachers. If you click on a progression you get all the grades in that progression, and can expand and collapse the cluster headings. It’s useful when you want to compare two similar clusters in consecutive grade levels, because you can collapse all the others and see the two side by side. I’ve done this on my iPad projected on a screen, where you can zoom in and out.

This is good.  In the future, perhaps a logical progression by mathematical standard will be written.  I am patiently waiting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried what Bill recommends:  Nancy, I don’t know of such a chart, but I have used the Illustrative Mathematics project display of the standards to navigate to explore them with teachers. If you click on a progression you get all the grades in that progression, and can expand and collapse the cluster headings. It’s useful when you want to compare two similar clusters in consecutive grade levels, because you can collapse all the others and see the two side by side. I’ve done this on my iPad projected on a screen, where you can zoom in and out.</p>
<p>This is good.  In the future, perhaps a logical progression by mathematical standard will be written.  I am patiently waiting.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Erin Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-1023</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 18:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Me too!!  Through the standards and the progressions documents I&#039;m starting to see how the standards are sequenced, but it would be so helpful to have a graphic that laid out those connections.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too!!  Through the standards and the progressions documents I&#8217;m starting to see how the standards are sequenced, but it would be so helpful to have a graphic that laid out those connections.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft of progression on Expressions and Equations by Ruth in PA</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/04/25/draft-of-progressions-on-expressions-and-equations/#comment-1003</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth in PA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree completely. I have tried a variety of means to accomplish &quot;meaning&quot; in the rules for exponents, this is the only one that seems to stay with students.

Nicely done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completely. I have tried a variety of means to accomplish &#8220;meaning&#8221; in the rules for exponents, this is the only one that seems to stay with students.</p>
<p>Nicely done.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The data part of the Measurement and Data Progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/06/20/the-data-part-of-the-measurement-and-data-progression/#comment-993</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s right, they are not required to go beyond 1/4 inch in Grade 3. That doesn&#039;t mean they are not allowed to, of course!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right, they are not required to go beyond 1/4 inch in Grade 3. That doesn&#8217;t mean they are not allowed to, of course!</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/06/20/the-data-part-of-the-measurement-and-data-progression/#comment-992</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, the standards says they should &quot;know relative sizes&quot;. This does not dictate how they should come to know them---through memorization, or through experience with problem solving. But it is an expectation that they will know them eventually, although I wouldn&#039;t make this a sole target for assessment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the standards says they should &#8220;know relative sizes&#8221;. This does not dictate how they should come to know them&#8212;through memorization, or through experience with problem solving. But it is an expectation that they will know them eventually, although I wouldn&#8217;t make this a sole target for assessment.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-991</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shannon, that&#039;s a typo, it should say &quot;Grade 4 students ...&quot;. Thanks for pointing it out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shannon, that&#8217;s a typo, it should say &#8220;Grade 4 students &#8230;&#8221;. Thanks for pointing it out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-990</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems to me that it&#039;s fine to have an intuitive notion of halves and quarters of circles without getting bogged down in considerations of area, so your cookie example would work that way. That&#039;s what I had in mind with my original comment, and I read Peter Gould&#039;s comment the same way when he says &quot;I have no concerns about students using the terms halves and quarters (or fourths) in context&quot;. Already with thirds, however, it can get tricky. There&#039;s the standard error of diving the circle into three vertical stripes with equally spaced lines, for example. You can replace circular food with rectangular food, of course; but then it&#039;s worth relating to area, it seems to me (e.g. a 9&quot; x 12&quot; cake shared out in various ways).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that it&#8217;s fine to have an intuitive notion of halves and quarters of circles without getting bogged down in considerations of area, so your cookie example would work that way. That&#8217;s what I had in mind with my original comment, and I read Peter Gould&#8217;s comment the same way when he says &#8220;I have no concerns about students using the terms halves and quarters (or fourths) in context&#8221;. Already with thirds, however, it can get tricky. There&#8217;s the standard error of diving the circle into three vertical stripes with equally spaced lines, for example. You can replace circular food with rectangular food, of course; but then it&#8217;s worth relating to area, it seems to me (e.g. a 9&#8243; x 12&#8243; cake shared out in various ways).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Chris Natale</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-989</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Natale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting.  I wonder about the area model myself.  It is a ubiquitous representation of fractions for kids...

I&#039;m thinking about this (and all fractions instruction these days, frankly) in the context of the excellent book Extending Children&#039;s Mathematics by Empson &amp; Levi (2011).  If you&#039;ve not read it yet, one of the things they talk about is introducing fraction concepts through contexts that give meaning to the fractional quantities.  So I&#039;m wondering, if kids are using an area model that is rooted in an accessible context (4 children are given 11 brownies to share, how much does each child get?), can our concerns about their formal understanding of &quot;area&quot; can be allayed somewhat?  Thoughts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  I wonder about the area model myself.  It is a ubiquitous representation of fractions for kids&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking about this (and all fractions instruction these days, frankly) in the context of the excellent book Extending Children&#8217;s Mathematics by Empson &amp; Levi (2011).  If you&#8217;ve not read it yet, one of the things they talk about is introducing fraction concepts through contexts that give meaning to the fractional quantities.  So I&#8217;m wondering, if kids are using an area model that is rooted in an accessible context (4 children are given 11 brownies to share, how much does each child get?), can our concerns about their formal understanding of &#8220;area&#8221; can be allayed somewhat?  Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Shannon Hart</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-988</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Bill,
On page 8, the second paragraph under decimals, it states &quot;Grade 3 students learn to add decimal fractions by converting them to fractions with the same denominator.......&quot;  In third grade (3.NF.abc) equivalence of fractions is only for special cases. Where in the third grade standards do students add decimal fractions and convert fractions to the same denominator?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,<br />
On page 8, the second paragraph under decimals, it states &#8220;Grade 3 students learn to add decimal fractions by converting them to fractions with the same denominator&#8230;&#8230;.&#8221;  In third grade (3.NF.abc) equivalence of fractions is only for special cases. Where in the third grade standards do students add decimal fractions and convert fractions to the same denominator?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The data part of the Measurement and Data Progression by Brian Cohen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/06/20/the-data-part-of-the-measurement-and-data-progression/#comment-977</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A follow-up regarding 4.MD.1 - 

Are students supposed to memorize the conversions for the stated units, or just apply understanding about the relative sizes and conversions to solve problems?  

While the latter provides an awesome opportunity to connect this standard to much of the OA domain at this grade (especially 4.OA.5) and the NF domain, the former would require a bit of time to develop and it doesn&#039;t connect to any of the Critical Areas in grade 4.

Thank you for your support,
Brian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A follow-up regarding 4.MD.1 &#8211; </p>
<p>Are students supposed to memorize the conversions for the stated units, or just apply understanding about the relative sizes and conversions to solve problems?  </p>
<p>While the latter provides an awesome opportunity to connect this standard to much of the OA domain at this grade (especially 4.OA.5) and the NF domain, the former would require a bit of time to develop and it doesn&#8217;t connect to any of the Critical Areas in grade 4.</p>
<p>Thank you for your support,<br />
Brian</p>
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		<title>Comment on The data part of the Measurement and Data Progression by Brian Cohen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/06/20/the-data-part-of-the-measurement-and-data-progression/#comment-976</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,

I re-discovered this question while doing work with my fourth grade teachers last week, then, yesterday, I received an email from a Math Coach from another state asking me if I had any answers on the same topic.  Can you offer any clarification regarding the intention of 4.MD.4 and 5.MD.2?  Are students supposed to measure to the 1/8 inch in grade 4, or is 1/4 inch (in grade 3) the most precise measuring the standards require?

Thanks,
Brian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>I re-discovered this question while doing work with my fourth grade teachers last week, then, yesterday, I received an email from a Math Coach from another state asking me if I had any answers on the same topic.  Can you offer any clarification regarding the intention of 4.MD.4 and 5.MD.2?  Are students supposed to measure to the 1/8 inch in grade 4, or is 1/4 inch (in grade 3) the most precise measuring the standards require?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Brian</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-973</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Basically I agree, and indeed this is one of the reasons CCSS introduces number lines and tape diagrams early.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically I agree, and indeed this is one of the reasons CCSS introduces number lines and tape diagrams early.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Peter Gould</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-970</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Gould</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 04:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Bill
One final comment in response to your statement &quot;So I think it’s worth having a working definition of very simple fractions based on division into congruent pieces.&quot; The way I read CCSS for Grade 3, developing an understanding of area, developing understanding of fractions, especially unit fractions; and describing and analyzing two-dimensional shapes are 3 of the 4 focus areas in Grade 3. I have no concerns about students using the terms halves and quarters (or fourths) in context. My concern is about the basis of the student&#039;s understanding that the pieces are equal (congruent). The area model of fractions relies upon fractions as comparisons of area. In Grade 3 &quot;Students recognize area as an attribute of two-dimensional regions. They measure the area of a shape by finding the total number of same-size units of area required to cover the shape without gaps or overlaps...&quot;.
 
To use the area model of fractions students must:
Know what area is,
Identify the area of the part,
Identify the area of the whole, and
Compare the two areas by direct or indirect measurement.
This is not a problem when students know enough about area to be able to do this.

That is, the concern is not about the introduction of one half or one quarter but the use of the area model to teach fractions when students have yet to develop a solid understanding of area measurement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Bill<br />
One final comment in response to your statement &#8220;So I think it’s worth having a working definition of very simple fractions based on division into congruent pieces.&#8221; The way I read CCSS for Grade 3, developing an understanding of area, developing understanding of fractions, especially unit fractions; and describing and analyzing two-dimensional shapes are 3 of the 4 focus areas in Grade 3. I have no concerns about students using the terms halves and quarters (or fourths) in context. My concern is about the basis of the student&#8217;s understanding that the pieces are equal (congruent). The area model of fractions relies upon fractions as comparisons of area. In Grade 3 &#8220;Students recognize area as an attribute of two-dimensional regions. They measure the area of a shape by finding the total number of same-size units of area required to cover the shape without gaps or overlaps&#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>To use the area model of fractions students must:<br />
Know what area is,<br />
Identify the area of the part,<br />
Identify the area of the whole, and<br />
Compare the two areas by direct or indirect measurement.<br />
This is not a problem when students know enough about area to be able to do this.</p>
<p>That is, the concern is not about the introduction of one half or one quarter but the use of the area model to teach fractions when students have yet to develop a solid understanding of area measurement.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Shannon Hart</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-966</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 20:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I meant to say I disagree with Tad and Peter.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Shannon Hart</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-965</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 20:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree. Students in first grade are introduced to halves when they are taught time. The standard in first grade is students tell time to the hour and half hour. In second grade students tell time to 5 minutes. Teachers can also focus on quarter of an hour.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. Students in first grade are introduced to halves when they are taught time. The standard in first grade is students tell time to the hour and half hour. In second grade students tell time to 5 minutes. Teachers can also focus on quarter of an hour.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spring Common Core Workshop:  May 25 – 27 New Orleans, La by Lane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/03/09/spring-common-core-workshop-may-25-27-new-orleans-la/#comment-957</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will these sessions be available on video?]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Kathy Renfrew</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-943</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy Renfrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 03:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thaank you Elaineand now that you mention them , I know exactly what you are talking about. I think they might be on the DOE wiki..

i have actuallywatched them all before. i am working on a using them as an organizing thread for some work we  need to do next  week.

Talk to you tomorrow.

Kathy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thaank you Elaineand now that you mention them , I know exactly what you are talking about. I think they might be on the DOE wiki..</p>
<p>i have actuallywatched them all before. i am working on a using them as an organizing thread for some work we  need to do next  week.</p>
<p>Talk to you tomorrow.</p>
<p>Kathy</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Elaine Watson</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-942</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 03:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry...I didn&#039;t mean to imbed the video in the reply!  I just copied the URL.  Oops!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Elaine Watson</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-941</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 03:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kathy,
Elaine here from Vermont.  A good resource to frame the ideas of rigor, focus, and coherence is the Hunt Institute videos featuring Bill McCallum and Jason Zimba.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rje1NOgHWs&amp;feature=related
The ones I would recommend are:
&quot;The Importance of Coherence in Mathematics&quot;
&quot;The Importance of Focus in Mathematics&quot;
&quot;Helping Teachers with Focus and Coherence&quot;
&quot;The Mathematical Standards and the Shifts They Require&quot;

In the last one, the idea of rigor is, in my interpretation, defined as a cross section of focus and coherence.  Rigor is  accomplished through giving students conceptual understanding,  procedural skill and fluency, and problem solving skills.  Rigor is also accomplished by implementing the content standards that have a high cognitive demand for reasoning, sense making, and justification.The practice standards provide students with a habits of mind that help them to make sense of the content standards.  Focus on fewer things gives kids more time to master the important understandings that are stepping stones in the stream of coherence.  Mastery of one topic (given enough focus for students to learn) informs the next topic in the stream or progressions (helping students to make connections rather than memorize isolated facts.) 

I look forward to working with you in our small state of Vermont to help teachers understand how to implement the CCSS-M!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy,<br />
Elaine here from Vermont.  A good resource to frame the ideas of rigor, focus, and coherence is the Hunt Institute videos featuring Bill McCallum and Jason Zimba.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rje1NOgHWs&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rje1NOgHWs&#038;feature=related</a><br />
The ones I would recommend are:<br />
&#8220;The Importance of Coherence in Mathematics&#8221;<br />
&#8220;The Importance of Focus in Mathematics&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Helping Teachers with Focus and Coherence&#8221;<br />
&#8220;The Mathematical Standards and the Shifts They Require&#8221;</p>
<p>In the last one, the idea of rigor is, in my interpretation, defined as a cross section of focus and coherence.  Rigor is  accomplished through giving students conceptual understanding,  procedural skill and fluency, and problem solving skills.  Rigor is also accomplished by implementing the content standards that have a high cognitive demand for reasoning, sense making, and justification.The practice standards provide students with a habits of mind that help them to make sense of the content standards.  Focus on fewer things gives kids more time to master the important understandings that are stepping stones in the stream of coherence.  Mastery of one topic (given enough focus for students to learn) informs the next topic in the stream or progressions (helping students to make connections rather than memorize isolated facts.) </p>
<p>I look forward to working with you in our small state of Vermont to help teachers understand how to implement the CCSS-M!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Kathy Renfrew</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-938</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy Renfrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 18:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill and others,

Kathy here from Vermont. I was just asked to define rigor, focus and coherence as they are used in the Common Core mathematics. I have some thoughts but I would appreciate your ideas  before I get too deep into this work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill and others,</p>
<p>Kathy here from Vermont. I was just asked to define rigor, focus and coherence as they are used in the Common Core mathematics. I have some thoughts but I would appreciate your ideas  before I get too deep into this work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by David Harris</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-928</link>
		<dc:creator>David Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 19:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I, too, am looking for a sequencing document such as the one you described.  Have you had any luck locating one?  If I can&#039;t find one that makes sense to me, I&#039;ll make by own, but I&#039;d love to see what others have come up with...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, am looking for a sequencing document such as the one you described.  Have you had any luck locating one?  If I can&#8217;t find one that makes sense to me, I&#8217;ll make by own, but I&#8217;d love to see what others have come up with&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Article by Roger Howe, &#8220;Three Pillars of First Grade Mathematics&#8221; by Marge Scanlon</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/08/article-by-roger-howe-three-pillars-of-first-grade-mathematics/#comment-927</link>
		<dc:creator>Marge Scanlon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 17:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been an elementary math coach for ten years, and an elementary teacher for twenty-nine years before that. We are always working on these concepts but I have never read such an excellent, explicit article that pushes all the important understandings for the primary students.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been an elementary math coach for ten years, and an elementary teacher for twenty-nine years before that. We are always working on these concepts but I have never read such an excellent, explicit article that pushes all the important understandings for the primary students.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-919</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 04:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Seth, this helps me understand your perspective and understand a possible miscommunication in our original essay. We are certainly not opposed to detailed analysis of the standards, which is what I think you mean by &quot;unpacking&quot;. Using the urn analogy, I would say it is very useful to look closely at the details of the depiction and try to figure out what the story is (this is, indeed, the subject of Keats&#039; poem &quot;Ode to a Grecian Urn&quot;, which inspired the analogy). So if that&#039;s what you mean by unpacking I&#039;m all for it, although I would probably call it something different: more like designing an itinerary through closely observed details, with the design of the itinerary supported by research about what itineraries work best for kids.

It&#039;s a complex process to design a curriculum to support the standards, and I don&#039;t think kids should be &quot;presented with the standards.&quot; Rather, they should be presented with a curriculum which supports learning the knowledge described by the standards. On page of 8 of the documented at corestandards.org, it says

&quot;These Standards do not dictate curriculum or teaching methods. For example, just because topic A appears before topic B in the standards for a given grade, it does not necessarily mean that topic A must be taught before topic B. A teacher might prefer to teach topic B before topic A, or might choose to highlight connections by teaching topic A and topic B at the same time. Or, a teacher might prefer to teach a topic of his or her own choosing that leads, as a byproduct, to students reaching the standards for topics A and B.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Seth, this helps me understand your perspective and understand a possible miscommunication in our original essay. We are certainly not opposed to detailed analysis of the standards, which is what I think you mean by &#8220;unpacking&#8221;. Using the urn analogy, I would say it is very useful to look closely at the details of the depiction and try to figure out what the story is (this is, indeed, the subject of Keats&#8217; poem &#8220;Ode to a Grecian Urn&#8221;, which inspired the analogy). So if that&#8217;s what you mean by unpacking I&#8217;m all for it, although I would probably call it something different: more like designing an itinerary through closely observed details, with the design of the itinerary supported by research about what itineraries work best for kids.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a complex process to design a curriculum to support the standards, and I don&#8217;t think kids should be &#8220;presented with the standards.&#8221; Rather, they should be presented with a curriculum which supports learning the knowledge described by the standards. On page of 8 of the documented at corestandards.org, it says</p>
<p>&#8220;These Standards do not dictate curriculum or teaching methods. For example, just because topic A appears before topic B in the standards for a given grade, it does not necessarily mean that topic A must be taught before topic B. A teacher might prefer to teach topic B before topic A, or might choose to highlight connections by teaching topic A and topic B at the same time. Or, a teacher might prefer to teach a topic of his or her own choosing that leads, as a byproduct, to students reaching the standards for topics A and B.&#8221;</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-917</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 02:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,

Thank you so much the article, &quot;The Structure is the Standards&quot;. It says so eloquently what I have been trying to explain to teachers for the past year. There are so many layers to, and connections between these new math standards. 

The question we are teaching our students to ask themselves  this year is: &quot;What do I already know that can help me figure out this new problem?&quot; Those connections that can be made to previous learning are what make the new standards so powerful.  We are discovering that students are arriving at deeper levels of mathematical understanding, even in the early grades, as our teachers become more and more intentional about setting up learning experiences that allow students to make understanding for themselves. It has become clearer than ever the importance of teaching for understanding, rather than just teaching isolated skills.

I do have a question for you. Is fourth grade the first time that students specifically have to make conversions within the same measurement system?  I have read everything that I can find and do not see anything at the third grade level that asks students to make conversions. A question came up about this recently and I just want to make sure that I have the correct answer.

Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Thank you so much the article, &#8220;The Structure is the Standards&#8221;. It says so eloquently what I have been trying to explain to teachers for the past year. There are so many layers to, and connections between these new math standards. </p>
<p>The question we are teaching our students to ask themselves  this year is: &#8220;What do I already know that can help me figure out this new problem?&#8221; Those connections that can be made to previous learning are what make the new standards so powerful.  We are discovering that students are arriving at deeper levels of mathematical understanding, even in the early grades, as our teachers become more and more intentional about setting up learning experiences that allow students to make understanding for themselves. It has become clearer than ever the importance of teaching for understanding, rather than just teaching isolated skills.</p>
<p>I do have a question for you. Is fourth grade the first time that students specifically have to make conversions within the same measurement system?  I have read everything that I can find and do not see anything at the third grade level that asks students to make conversions. A question came up about this recently and I just want to make sure that I have the correct answer.</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Seth</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-910</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 22:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are few practices in education that get the kinds of results associated with formatively assessing students and including students in the process of deciding how they and their teachers might close the gap between where students find themselves at any point in time in relation to where they are supposed to &quot;end up&quot; along the path towards mastering standards.  

The researchers and practitioners I referenced assert that unless it is crystal clear to a student where they need to &quot;end up&quot; the benefits of formatively assessing students and including students in the process of instructional decision-making cannot be realized.  

If a student is presented with any kind of standard in any subject, but the student doesn&#039;t understand what the standard means, then teachers and students need to &quot;unpack&quot; the standard so that it does make sense to students.  Once students and teachers clearly understand the way(s) a standard describes mastery of knowledge, reasoning, or performances, then both may engage in a diagnosis of the strengths and weaknesses a student&#039;s work reflects in relation to the standard(s) attempting to be mastered.  This diagnosis informs what gaps may exist between current understanding and mastery, and informs both teachers and students how they might close those gaps.

Your essay seems to treat all &quot;unpacking&quot; processes as a hammer smashing an urn; however, the word &quot;unpacking&quot; also refers to a process of analyzing standards and expressing them in a way that makes sense to students.  This may, for certain students in certain grades, mean that a single standard may need to be expressed in its component parts; however, and this is what I believe you and yours are asserting, if expressing a complicated standard to a student leads either student or teacher to permanently shift perspective to a micro-level, and forget the macro-level from which the standard came, then we have problems.

In essence, just as mathematicians and students can &quot;step back and shift perspective” and see &quot;complicated objects as composed of several objects&quot; in making sense of mathematics, so too can educators do the same with standards.  Educators and students can unpack standards for the purposes of formatively assessing and student self-assessment and, as long as they &quot;maintain an oversight of the process&quot; and are aware of how &quot;intermediate results&quot; relate to the overall task at hand &quot;unpacking&quot; does not necessarily lead to a loss in the overall structure of the standards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are few practices in education that get the kinds of results associated with formatively assessing students and including students in the process of deciding how they and their teachers might close the gap between where students find themselves at any point in time in relation to where they are supposed to &#8220;end up&#8221; along the path towards mastering standards.  </p>
<p>The researchers and practitioners I referenced assert that unless it is crystal clear to a student where they need to &#8220;end up&#8221; the benefits of formatively assessing students and including students in the process of instructional decision-making cannot be realized.  </p>
<p>If a student is presented with any kind of standard in any subject, but the student doesn&#8217;t understand what the standard means, then teachers and students need to &#8220;unpack&#8221; the standard so that it does make sense to students.  Once students and teachers clearly understand the way(s) a standard describes mastery of knowledge, reasoning, or performances, then both may engage in a diagnosis of the strengths and weaknesses a student&#8217;s work reflects in relation to the standard(s) attempting to be mastered.  This diagnosis informs what gaps may exist between current understanding and mastery, and informs both teachers and students how they might close those gaps.</p>
<p>Your essay seems to treat all &#8220;unpacking&#8221; processes as a hammer smashing an urn; however, the word &#8220;unpacking&#8221; also refers to a process of analyzing standards and expressing them in a way that makes sense to students.  This may, for certain students in certain grades, mean that a single standard may need to be expressed in its component parts; however, and this is what I believe you and yours are asserting, if expressing a complicated standard to a student leads either student or teacher to permanently shift perspective to a micro-level, and forget the macro-level from which the standard came, then we have problems.</p>
<p>In essence, just as mathematicians and students can &#8220;step back and shift perspective” and see &#8220;complicated objects as composed of several objects&#8221; in making sense of mathematics, so too can educators do the same with standards.  Educators and students can unpack standards for the purposes of formatively assessing and student self-assessment and, as long as they &#8220;maintain an oversight of the process&#8221; and are aware of how &#8220;intermediate results&#8221; relate to the overall task at hand &#8220;unpacking&#8221; does not necessarily lead to a loss in the overall structure of the standards.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Mary</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-907</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 02:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the response!  Your reply was just the thing I needed in our first attempt to address the CCSS Shifts to every single hs math teacher in our district.  While I do work with some super fabulous professors, your blog has come in quite handy to support the work I do with math teachers.  Looking forward to the high school progressions!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the response!  Your reply was just the thing I needed in our first attempt to address the CCSS Shifts to every single hs math teacher in our district.  While I do work with some super fabulous professors, your blog has come in quite handy to support the work I do with math teachers.  Looking forward to the high school progressions!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-891</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 17:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you please elaborate on how this essay is at odds with the research you cite?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you please elaborate on how this essay is at odds with the research you cite?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Seth</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-821</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 00:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In what ways do the ideas you present here reflect research on activating students as self-assessors and, ultimately, including students in the instructional decision-making process?  At this point, your argument seems squarely at odds with the research of Wiliam, Black, Stiggins, Chappuis, and Clarke.

Can you please cite the specific education research consulted in making your argument?  If no specific education research was consulted, can you please explain why?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In what ways do the ideas you present here reflect research on activating students as self-assessors and, ultimately, including students in the instructional decision-making process?  At this point, your argument seems squarely at odds with the research of Wiliam, Black, Stiggins, Chappuis, and Clarke.</p>
<p>Can you please cite the specific education research consulted in making your argument?  If no specific education research was consulted, can you please explain why?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Complete draft progression for CC and OA by Chantel Cowan</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/05/29/complete-draft-progression-for-cc-and-oa/#comment-818</link>
		<dc:creator>Chantel Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 21:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the quick reply. I appreciate the help in identifying where my misunderstanding was.  Also, thank you for writing and sharing the progression documents.  They are extremely helpful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the quick reply. I appreciate the help in identifying where my misunderstanding was.  Also, thank you for writing and sharing the progression documents.  They are extremely helpful.</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/05/29/complete-draft-progression-for-cc-and-oa/#comment-817</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 21:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[4.NF.4 says &quot;Apply and extend previous understandings of multiplication to multiply a fraction by a whole number.&quot; Multiplying a fraction by a whole number can be understood as an extension of multiplying a whole number by a whole number. Just as 5 x 3 is seen as 5 groups of 3, 5 x 1/3 can be seen as 5 &quot;groups&quot; of 1/3 (portions might be a better word in this context).

On the other hand, the OA progression is referring to multiplying a number by a fraction, which is conceptually more difficult. Thus in Grade 5 we have 5.NF.4, &quot;Apply and extend previous understandings of multiplication to multiply a fraction or whole number by a fraction.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4.NF.4 says &#8220;Apply and extend previous understandings of multiplication to multiply a fraction by a whole number.&#8221; Multiplying a fraction by a whole number can be understood as an extension of multiplying a whole number by a whole number. Just as 5 x 3 is seen as 5 groups of 3, 5 x 1/3 can be seen as 5 &#8220;groups&#8221; of 1/3 (portions might be a better word in this context).</p>
<p>On the other hand, the OA progression is referring to multiplying a number by a fraction, which is conceptually more difficult. Thus in Grade 5 we have 5.NF.4, &#8220;Apply and extend previous understandings of multiplication to multiply a fraction or whole number by a fraction.&#8221;</p>
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		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/05/29/complete-draft-progression-for-cc-and-oa/#comment-816</link>
		<dc:creator>Chantel Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 20:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am hoping you can clarify for me a statement that is made on page 29 in the second paragraph, “…note however that multiplying by a fraction is not an expectation of the Standards in Grade 4.”  It seems like this statement is in direct conflict with Standard 4 in the “Number and Operations – Fractions” domain.  Does this statement really mean that it is not an expectation in Grade 4 for students to be able to identify multiplication compare problems as problems that involve multiplying by a fraction?  Please help me identify what information I am missing here.  Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am hoping you can clarify for me a statement that is made on page 29 in the second paragraph, “…note however that multiplying by a fraction is not an expectation of the Standards in Grade 4.”  It seems like this statement is in direct conflict with Standard 4 in the “Number and Operations – Fractions” domain.  Does this statement really mean that it is not an expectation in Grade 4 for students to be able to identify multiplication compare problems as problems that involve multiplying by a fraction?  Please help me identify what information I am missing here.  Thank you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on New features on the Illustrative Mathematics website by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/29/new-features-on-the-illustrative-mathematics-website/#comment-813</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 04:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Printing will be in the next round of improvements due in April. In the mean time, there&#039;s always the crude method of capturing a screen shot. Thank you for your patience!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Printing will be in the next round of improvements due in April. In the mean time, there&#8217;s always the crude method of capturing a screen shot. Thank you for your patience!</p>
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		<title>Comment on New features on the Illustrative Mathematics website by John Staley</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/29/new-features-on-the-illustrative-mathematics-website/#comment-812</link>
		<dc:creator>John Staley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 04:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is there an easy way to print the task or down load them to be used?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there an easy way to print the task or down load them to be used?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-808</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 03:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, a separate reporting for the cluster headings would be a good idea, I guess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, a separate reporting for the cluster headings would be a good idea, I guess.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by bob</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-806</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I see the concept of not unpacking the &quot;big idea&quot; standards, what might this mean for standards-based report cards?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I see the concept of not unpacking the &#8220;big idea&#8221; standards, what might this mean for standards-based report cards?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Great Article on the Common Core Standards &#171; Secondary Math Education</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-801</link>
		<dc:creator>Great Article on the Common Core Standards &#171; Secondary Math Education</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] authors that reminds me why the CCSS should never be looked at as a checklist of standards. http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/ Share this:TwitterFacebookEmailLinkedInLike this:LikeBe the first to like this [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] authors that reminds me why the CCSS should never be looked at as a checklist of standards. http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/ Share this:TwitterFacebookEmailLinkedInLike this:LikeBe the first to like this [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Cathy Kessel</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-790</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Kessel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 02:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nancy, are you thinking of a graphic like this (translation shown here on pages &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10050&amp;page=80&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;80&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10050&amp;page=81&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;81&lt;/a&gt;) from Japanese teachers&#039; manuals?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy, are you thinking of a graphic like this (translation shown here on pages <a href="http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10050&amp;page=80" rel="nofollow">80</a> and <a href="http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10050&amp;page=81" rel="nofollow">81</a>) from Japanese teachers&#8217; manuals?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Task Writing Contest 5 for Illustrative Mathematics by Peter Price</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/13/task-writing-contest-5-for-illustrative-mathematics/#comment-789</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Ashli
I&#039;m enjoying seeing this project grow and improve. I think adding the facility for visitors to post comments on tasks is great. It is a positive sign that the team is now asking for &quot;extra&quot; tasks for standards to fill in gaps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ashli<br />
I&#8217;m enjoying seeing this project grow and improve. I think adding the facility for visitors to post comments on tasks is great. It is a positive sign that the team is now asking for &#8220;extra&#8221; tasks for standards to fill in gaps.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression on Ratios and Proportional Relationships by Lane</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/09/12/progression-on-ratios-and-proportional-reasoning/#comment-707</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I taught these different scenarios to 9th graders, most of them could see blue to red as a &quot;part-to-part&quot; 2:3 or 2/3 and blue to whole as &quot;part to whole&quot; 2:5 or 2/5.  Again, this isn&#039;t something I was ever taught but had to find a way to &quot;distinguish&quot; and maybe there was something I was missing.  In any case, this connects well to &quot;like terms&quot; which connects with common denominators.  I&#039;m thinking this all fits well with seeing expressions as &quot;objects.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I taught these different scenarios to 9th graders, most of them could see blue to red as a &#8220;part-to-part&#8221; 2:3 or 2/3 and blue to whole as &#8220;part to whole&#8221; 2:5 or 2/5.  Again, this isn&#8217;t something I was ever taught but had to find a way to &#8220;distinguish&#8221; and maybe there was something I was missing.  In any case, this connects well to &#8220;like terms&#8221; which connects with common denominators.  I&#8217;m thinking this all fits well with seeing expressions as &#8220;objects.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression on Ratios and Proportional Relationships by Nick Wasserman</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/09/12/progression-on-ratios-and-proportional-reasoning/#comment-705</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Wasserman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thought after reading the progression and some of the comments is the need to articulate why such careful distinction between proportions and fractions is necessary. The visual on page 4 does a nice job clarifying the difference between equivalent ratios and equivalent fractions. The introduction states that, &quot;Because ratios and rates are different and rates will often be written using fraction notation in high school, ratio notation should be distinct from fraction notation.&quot; However, little else is said about why this distinction between proportions and fractions is so important. One such reason, at least in my mind, is that &quot;combining&quot; proportions and &quot;combining&quot; (e.g. adding) fractions are inherently different because of the changing whole (the visual on page 4). For example, that a ratio of 2 cups blue: 3 total cups, combined with a ratio of 3 cups blue: 5 total cups, results in a ratio that is 5 cups blue: 8 total cups is true; whereas combining the fractions 2/3 + 3/5 cannot be done in a similar manner. Another thought is that &quot;comparison of ratios&quot; is frequently accomplished by computing the decimal/fractional equivalent and comparing the decimals/fractions. In particular, this idea &quot;works&quot; for comparing ratios, only because the decimal comparisons are now comparing ratios that have the same &quot;whole&quot; (Example on page 6 for 3 ways to compare ratios - same red, same yellow, same total: 1red:3yellow = 0.333...red:1yellow, compared with 3red:5yellow = 0.6red:1yellow). Some of these thoughts, and others, might be useful for helping readers see a need to distinguish ratio and fractional notation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thought after reading the progression and some of the comments is the need to articulate why such careful distinction between proportions and fractions is necessary. The visual on page 4 does a nice job clarifying the difference between equivalent ratios and equivalent fractions. The introduction states that, &#8220;Because ratios and rates are different and rates will often be written using fraction notation in high school, ratio notation should be distinct from fraction notation.&#8221; However, little else is said about why this distinction between proportions and fractions is so important. One such reason, at least in my mind, is that &#8220;combining&#8221; proportions and &#8220;combining&#8221; (e.g. adding) fractions are inherently different because of the changing whole (the visual on page 4). For example, that a ratio of 2 cups blue: 3 total cups, combined with a ratio of 3 cups blue: 5 total cups, results in a ratio that is 5 cups blue: 8 total cups is true; whereas combining the fractions 2/3 + 3/5 cannot be done in a similar manner. Another thought is that &#8220;comparison of ratios&#8221; is frequently accomplished by computing the decimal/fractional equivalent and comparing the decimals/fractions. In particular, this idea &#8220;works&#8221; for comparing ratios, only because the decimal comparisons are now comparing ratios that have the same &#8220;whole&#8221; (Example on page 6 for 3 ways to compare ratios &#8211; same red, same yellow, same total: 1red:3yellow = 0.333&#8230;red:1yellow, compared with 3red:5yellow = 0.6red:1yellow). Some of these thoughts, and others, might be useful for helping readers see a need to distinguish ratio and fractional notation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Bill McCallum</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-704</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We will eventually come out with a progression for The Number System domain, Grades 6-8, and that will include the fraction material in Grade 6.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will eventually come out with a progression for The Number System domain, Grades 6-8, and that will include the fraction material in Grade 6.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Progression on Ratios and Proportional Relationships by Considering What Evidence? &#171; Mathematics and Education</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/09/12/progression-on-ratios-and-proportional-reasoning/#comment-702</link>
		<dc:creator>Considering What Evidence? &#171; Mathematics and Education</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 06:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of the meaning of “fraction” and “ratio” on the Tools for the Common Core blog (see comments beginning on December 22). As I pointed out there, a group of North Carolina researchers (Clark et [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the meaning of “fraction” and “ratio” on the Tools for the Common Core blog (see comments beginning on December 22). As I pointed out there, a group of North Carolina researchers (Clark et [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drafty draft of Fractions Progression by Chris Natale</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/08/12/drafty-draft-of-fractions-progression/#comment-696</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Natale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. McCallum, 

I read your progression on fractions with great interest.  I have a question.  It seems as though, in other posts, that I&#039;ve seen you refer to K-8 progressions.  However, the fractions progression ends with grade 5.  Can you tell me if, in the revision of the draft, you intend to include anything beyond that grade level?  There is some in 6th.

Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. McCallum, </p>
<p>I read your progression on fractions with great interest.  I have a question.  It seems as though, in other posts, that I&#8217;ve seen you refer to K-8 progressions.  However, the fractions progression ends with grade 5.  Can you tell me if, in the revision of the draft, you intend to include anything beyond that grade level?  There is some in 6th.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Nancy</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-689</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your reply is very helpful, thank you.  Common Core State Standards for Mathematics (Massachusetts) Big Book  was created by Center for Hands-On Learning.  It lists almost everything included in the grade level standards and where they are found.  It is a comprehensive index of mathematical language and where each vocabulary term/ concept is located.  http://www.standards-toolbox.org/index.php

Best,
~Nancy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your reply is very helpful, thank you.  Common Core State Standards for Mathematics (Massachusetts) Big Book  was created by Center for Hands-On Learning.  It lists almost everything included in the grade level standards and where they are found.  It is a comprehensive index of mathematical language and where each vocabulary term/ concept is located.  <a href="http://www.standards-toolbox.org/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.standards-toolbox.org/index.php</a></p>
<p>Best,<br />
~Nancy</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Constance Cannon</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-685</link>
		<dc:creator>Constance Cannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 04:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks so much. I look forward to your modules.Connie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much. I look forward to your modules.Connie</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Structure is the Standards by Ellen Whitesides</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2012/02/16/the-structure-is-the-standards/#comment-683</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen Whitesides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Constance,

We are sorry to have missed your expertise this weekend as we created professional development units together in Tucson.  Many great tools and PD modules came out of the workshop.  We are now in the period of revision by the authors and a bit of formatting before the modules are ready to share.  Once they are ready we will be holding a much larger workshop to disseminate the information to even more regions, states, and districts nationwide.  We will have information on the blog when the registration for the larger workshop at the end of  April becomes available.  Registration should be open soon!

And wonderful to meet you Elaine.  I hope some collaboration can occur in VT!

Ellen]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Constance,</p>
<p>We are sorry to have missed your expertise this weekend as we created professional development units together in Tucson.  Many great tools and PD modules came out of the workshop.  We are now in the period of revision by the authors and a bit of formatting before the modules are ready to share.  Once they are ready we will be holding a much larger workshop to disseminate the information to even more regions, states, and districts nationwide.  We will have information on the blog when the registration for the larger workshop at the end of  April becomes available.  Registration should be open soon!</p>
<p>And wonderful to meet you Elaine.  I hope some collaboration can occur in VT!</p>
<p>Ellen</p>
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		<title>Comment on Visual Map of the Content Standards by John Meinzen</title>
		<link>http://commoncoretools.me/2011/11/18/visual-map-of-the-content-standards/#comment-682</link>
		<dc:creator>John Meinzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. McCallum,
I believe that a &quot;revision history&quot; setup similar to a GIT tree for many Open Source Projects such as the Linux Operating System may  be an appropriate model for large-scale com